Yep. You were paying attention, so you should know I mentioned the Nexus S 4G as one of the phones I owned. Got it for that exact reason. It was awful, only had it for a few months. By the way, it's a Nexus phone but it still hasn't received the ICS update 5 months later. Why? Samsung and Google say it's too difficult to update it as fast because it's CDMA. However, my iPhone 4s is CDMA and I got iOS 5.1 the same day the GSM 4s got theirs. Just another example of how terrible Android and it's OS have become.
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Yep. You were paying attention, so you should know I mentioned the Nexus S 4G as one of the phones I owned. Got it for that exact reason. It was awful, only had it for a few months. By the way, it's a Nexus phone but it still hasn't received the ICS update 5 months later. Why? Samsung and Google say it's too difficult to update it as fast because it's CDMA. However, my iPhone 4s is CDMA and I got iOS 5.1 the same day the GSM 4s got theirs. Just another example of how terrible Android and it's OS have become.
I found Android much less hackable than iOS... Jailbreaking opens it all up
Most new Android phones have unlocked bootloaders or can be unlocked using manufactures tools now.
I found Android much less hackable than iOS... Jailbreaking opens it all up
What Sensation said. Most Android devices can be unlocked as soon as they're released. iOS? Yeah, I'm still waiting for my 3rd gen iPad jailbreak. And it'll probably lock me out of my iBooks account when I do it.
I wish Apple would follow WebOS's lead, and make it so that you can unlock the OS from inside the settings menu. Make it a little difficult, throw up a few scary warnings about the warranty being void while it's jailbroken. I don't care. I just want to be able to install ScummVM and Dosbox on my iPad.
You have to wait to jailbreak iOS, but it's easy once it's available. Some versions of iOS 4 could be jailbroken just by going to a website (I did that), but it's usually just some wizard you run in DFU mode. Once it's jailbroken, installing stuff from Cydia is easy, and they have pretty much everything. Using OpenSSH allows for manual modification, which is easy because the system is basically a modified Mac OS with the resources stored in the applications.
Just stay behind 1 minor version to stay jailbroken. It's better than using a Droid, where you're stuck one or two full versions behind.
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DFU mode + redsn0w
And you have to take the rest of "hacking" into account. It's not just opening the device, you also have to get the modifications and stuff you want. Any fool with Cydia can get pretty much everything.
Oh, and the main thing is that Apple keeps the number of iPhone/iPod models low, so it's easy to find stuff that works on your device. One utility can jailbreak any iDevice that has jailbreaks available for it (everything but the very latest OSs).
I've never seen Google or Samsung say it's difficult to update CDMA hardware myself, care to share when that happened? The only issues I know of when it comes to CDMA hadware was where the AOSP support was dropped for CDMA images due to Google having to distribute components they did not own which meant the Verizon GN and NS4G were removed from the AOSP support site.
All of the dev phones have been GSM hardware (which is why I linked to that Wikipedia page).
I've managed to go from the Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus with no issues with updates so it's been fine for me so far (my brief stint with a GSM i9100 was different thanks to TouchWiz). The moment that changes - I'm gone,
Given your accounts with the NS4G (which was released with Sprint bloatware) and Google/Samsung letting Verizon add software to the Galaxy Nexus (which is bloat IMO) I'd avoid CDMA Nexus handsets like the plague. The moment carriers install anything on a phone, I have a feeling it'll end in tears.
I have an iPhone and android phone (I didn't put it in a drawer). Both of them have their own advantages and disadvantages. But iPhone gives me a better feel.
Can you still use the offical Apple App store if you jailbreak your iphone or are you locked out of it? Your point about being several versions behind is wrong, if you root/unlock your bootloader of Android you can just install a new version of Android from XDA devs/other sources.
I found Android much less hackable than iOS... Jailbreaking opens it all up
not quite. jailbreaking allows some customization but it often creates problems, breaks built-in apps. Android "rooting" is much simpler and doesn't break any built-in app.
What built-in apps does it break? There was just that one version where iBooks didn't work (anyway I don't give a @#$% about iBooks). I've jailbroken all three of the iDevices I have owned with no problems: iPhone 1, iPod touch 4, iPhone 4.
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Yes, you can still use the App Store if you jailbreak. You can still use everything.
And if people can update their Droids, why don't they? There was a graph someone posted here about how far behind they were... most are running Gingerbread.
Yes it is... Mac market share doubled in the last 5 years.... from 5% to a whopping 10%
But hey I'm happy if Apple continues to have such a low market share, it'll keep the viruses away form my mac.
Low market share and the most valuable company in the world... oh the horror!
They're certainly not most valuable company in the world because of their computers...
What a complete load of crap. Rare to see people using the iPhone on the bus/train? Where the hell do you live?
+1000, my argument all along
how can you compare multiple vendors, with multiple versions of one OS, with one MFG who makes three phones with one iOS even though some may use older versions, Apple makes sure all three phones support all iOS versions they make, and are tested.
This is the one reason I avoid Android
If I buy a new phone today with say 2.3 Gingerbread, then someone needs to test that ice cream sandwich will work just as smoothly, but no one does.
Also why by a phone with an OS with Apps like Blockbuster??? that I can not remove. I want the bare min apps, not these useless apps I will never use, give me the power to remove them.
Until this happens, I will stick with Apple since it is stable, and I know if I decide not to upgrade to the new phone the new iOS will work on my phone, albeit I may not take advantage of new features that only work with the newer phones, like when the release iOS 5 but iPhone 4 would not work like the 4S does with Siri.
I bought Macs in the 90s and continue to buy them today. I want a better computing experience then what windows or android can give me. Sorry I don't accept mediocre garbage.
Never said that there weren't people who were willing to pay extra for quality. But the masses typically don't. The PC marketshare proves my point (and yours!). I think the same will happen with the smartphone market and eventually the tablet market.
Again with this argument.
A customer will only by one phone with one OS.
If I walk into the Verizon store and say I want an android phone, then that increases androids activation's(if it is unique) by one. Android 1 iOS 0.
at that point does it matter how many different manufactures are making an android device? NO matter who I buy an android device from, i will be adding to the "OS Install Base"
Dear Apple fanatics,
More people are using Android than iOS.
Just. Deal. With. It.
Kind regards,
Normal person
More people are using Android than iOS.
Just. Deal. With. It.
Kind regards,
Normal person
Dear Bezetos,
Does that earn Android users an extra cookie?
Cause that would be hard for me to deal with.
Cookies are delicious.
Kind regards,
Me
You weren't talking to me when you said that. You were talking to your pet stereotype. But I wonder what you want people to deal with.
Android is number one in install base by a good margin. But Apple, and iPhone users, enjoy all the benefits of being number one.
Profit
Control
Developers
Apps
Accessories
Feature usage
Integration
Maybe that will change if Android's lead continues to increase. But nothing for iOS users to "deal with" right now.
The masses are just starting to realize now how terrible the windows operating system actually is. Tides have been turning for a while now and I am glad to see the general population start to wake up and realize that "Windows PCs" are not their only option when it comes to computing. I have said this since the 90s Apple will continue to innovate, continue to break new grounds, continue to develop superior products and eventually become the dominate player in not only profits, which it is now, but market share as well. This scenario takes time since Windows has a strong foot hold in people's lives and in business. Even though this is a slow process it is still an unavoidable process for the windows side to slowly fade away into obscurity.
No way. Even with Macs making headway, Windows will have over 75% of the PC market for the foreseeable future.
Don't look at profits. That's the shareholders perspective and Apple does this better than anyone else. Look at how the PC market has driven down cost so even people in third world countries have one.
That's not the best model for profits or necessarily quality. But it has been good for society.
Edit: Let me make this point very clear. The PC market has brought costs down so much that there millions of people across the world who can afford one vs. not having a PC at all. These same people would never dream of affording a Mac. I think the same thing is happening with Android.
The Android market is leveraging the best of capitalism. The Apple model works only during the early part of the innovation cycle. It has a hard time competing over the long run. Not unlike democracy vs. totalitarianism.
Don't look at profits. That's the shareholders perspective and Apple does this better than anyone else. Look at how the PC market has driven down cost so even people in third world countries have one.
That's not the best model for profits or necessarily quality. But it has been good for society.
Edit: Let me make this point very clear. The PC market has brought costs down so much that there millions of people across the world who can afford one vs. not having a PC at all. These same people would never dream of affording a Mac. I think the same thing is happening with Android.
The Android market is leveraging the best of capitalism. The Apple model works only during the early part of the innovation cycle. It has a hard time competing over the long run. Not unlike democracy vs. totalitarianism.
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