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As someone who's been braving sub freezing temperatures all winter, I was bummed to read I can't wear gloves and use the touch pad. I hate having to take my gloves off when it's so cold.

Puerto Rico is lovely this time of the year, and there is Cingular coverage. LOL
 
It all comes together

Remember the light sensing pixels in the display patent? Imagine: The display tracks your fingertips (multi-touch), your whole face for accurate speech recognition, scans documents by just holding them against the screen. Wouldn't it be awesome if the next Generation of iMacs and Displays had the Multi-Touch right in them? Let's all hope Leopard has it built in already.
 
Ballmer on iPhone

Balmer of Microsoft was interviewed on CNBC where he directly criticized the iPhone (ATN) keyboard.

Wrong. Ballmer didn't criticize the ‘iPhone (ATN) keyboard’; he said it doesn’t have one. And, without one, wouldn’t appeal to business customers because it will be ‘not a very good email machine.’

Is it only for the purposes of rhetoric, obfuscation, and for lack of better criticisms that he would make such a claim? How can a Stanford dropout, a billionaire, a CEO of such an important multinational computer technology corporation not see multi-touch user interfaces as better, more adaptive, etc.?
 
Great article. Not sure how much of a Mac "fan boy" the author is but he seems to give it a fair analysis although some of the commentary might seem a bit kiss a$$. It's sad to hear that developers won't get the chance to create some great apps for the phone but the prospect of making widgets sounds possible... I'm still really excited about getting it once it comes out:D :D :D
 
Wrong. Ballmer didn't criticize the ‘iPhone (ATN) keyboard’; he said it doesn’t have one. And, without one, wouldn’t appeal to business customers because it will be ‘not a very good email machine.’

Is it only for the purposes of rhetoric, obfuscation, and for lack of better criticisms that he would make such a claim? How can a Stanford dropout, a billionaire, a CEO of such an important multinational computer technology corporation not see multi-touch user interfaces as better, more adaptive, etc.?

Thanks for the link!

Rocketman
 
Apple will add 3G *only* when its ready for the american market, not when the rest of the world is ready.

People should know by now:
Apple only make products for the american market. They don't really care about the rest of the world - they sell it, if it sells, thats a bonus but nothing more.

( example: osx is loaded with american dictionary only, osx ships with american orientated widgets, apple make no effort to localise these to make them useful for other parts of the world. )
 
I think it's way too early to take ANY review on the iPhone seriously because until it's in the consumers grubby little hands and it's being used in a commercial sense the iPhone is nothing more than vaporware.

Until the product it offically released and you can buy it I wont be reading any more reviews, I took this tack with the Zune as well but sadly with the Zune the "pre reviews" were too close to the mark.

The jury is still out with the iPhone and I'm sick of reading poorly written articles from people who know very little about Apple philosophy and basing a product review from "what a friend has told them".

This review wasn't bad but still it's too early to make any judgement on the iPhone yet.
 
Apple will add 3G *only* when its ready for the american market, not when the rest of the world is ready.

People should know by now:
Apple only make products for the american market. They don't really care about the rest of the world - they sell it, if it sells, thats a bonus but nothing more.

( example: osx is loaded with american dictionary only, osx ships with american orientated widgets, apple make no effort to localise these to make them useful for other parts of the world. )

According to at&t: http://www.cingular.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.html

I wouldn't say that US is not ready for 3G. Most major cities are covered with 3G and remember 3G can always back compatible to EDGE.

Once you had 3G, it's so hard to go back to EDGE, esp. with a browser like Safari.
 
I use cingular and I have no problems at all with customer service or calls or anything... it seems there are only negative comments about cingular but it's great for me. I have a slvr with a few songs on it, and you can't use them as ring tones either as with the iPhone. I do use the AIM connection so I hope the iPhone will match that by June! My contract is up in March so I'll just go monthly until I figure out if I want the iPhone or wait for the iPhone Pro or whatever will be next, maybe an iPhone Nano :) Its still way to soon for this one, remember 6 years ago the iPod was Mac only and 5gb...
 
If the iPhone OS is truly based on leopard, i think that (along with the scaling of production) is the root cause behind the release being 6 months out. They can't release a phone that is running leopard and have people try to sync it up with tiger (well they could but then they would run into poetential problems). This means that leopard will be out certainly before the release of the phone and the two will talk with each other flawlessly.

you think people will be required to purchase leopard so that they can use the iphone?? i somehow find that difficult to believe.
 
Exactly, give me a spotty teenager who is addicted to texting and we'll get a proper review then :D

Where do I sign up to do that review? Okay.. i'm 20, but I think I'd be able to give a proper review of how the keyboard reacts. I fly on my sidekick, and I fly on my mother's Cingular blackjack.. and I'm curious if i'll be able to keep pace if I pick this up.. or if it will be able to keep pace with me... I suppose we'll see.
 
you think people will be required to purchase leopard so that they can use the iphone?? i somehow find that difficult to believe.
I don't think you'll need Leopard but I do think that you will be able to use new Leopard features (such as iCal additions possibly) with the iPhone. If you own Tiger or before you will probably be more limited to your options of what you can do. Having Leopard will probably make things easier and smoother on the iPhone.
 
If the iPhone OS is truly based on leopard, i think that (along with the scaling of production) is the root cause behind the release being 6 months out. They can't release a phone that is running leopard and have people try to sync it up with tiger (well they could but then they would run into poetential problems). This means that leopard will be out certainly before the release of the phone and the two will talk with each other flawlessly.

I can't believe that Apple would be so foolhardy as to limit their product's compatibility to only those people who are running Leopard. For example, my Tiger computer is networkable with computers all the way down to OS 8, maybe even System 6. (I'm not sure, as I've only ever tried as far back as OS 8. Never had the opportunity to try with Systems 6 or 7.)

No. Even if the iPhone is based on Leopard, compatibility with computers is not a reason that the iPhone isn't being released. Perhaps, though, it is to keep from releasing some core elements of Leopard before Leopard itself is released...? Now that I might be able to believe.
 
How can a Stanford dropout, a billionaire, a CEO of such an important multinational computer technology corporation not see multi-touch user interfaces as better, more adaptive, etc.?

I think you're giving Balmer way too much credit. Perhaps you haven't seen his monkey dancing psycho jubulation for Self-Inflicted States of Publicly Displayed Prepubescent Dilerium.

He is the quintesential microslob - although not that micro.

God be with you - and your gonna need her if you choose to watch the monkey dance!
 
there have to be at least 8 or 9 Zune Fanboys... somewhere.... I still haven't actually seen a Zune in the Wild. I have seen their displays and endcaps everywhere I go (full, I might add... not empty like iPod cabinets at retail places). I wonder who the Zune purchasees are anyways? How many Microsoft employees are there? Maybe it is some contractual thing - you aren't allowed to have an iPod on the premesis, but the Zune is ok since you can't mount it anyways.

At least in this sense, Switzerland is a privilege...people buy mainly iPods and Zunes practically don't exist (or any other crappy player for that matter). At least I've never seen one, nor even a stand...good for me.
 
iPhone and Leopard

Yeah, all the Windows users that were clearly mentioned as to be able to use the phone will also have to upgrade to Leopard. At least that's what the frog in my ear keeps whispering.

Sorry,

me.

PS: You really don't get any US-only devices in Switzerland?
PPS: Sorry again. Must be a troll, me.
PPPS: I'm really a nice person when I'm not drunk. Although now I'm not. Whatever.
 
I can't believe that Apple would be so foolhardy as to limit their product's compatibility to only those people who are running Leopard. For example, my Tiger computer is networkable with computers all the way down to OS 8, maybe even System 6. (I'm not sure, as I've only ever tried as far back as OS 8. Never had the opportunity to try with Systems 6 or 7.)

No. Even if the iPhone is based on Leopard, compatibility with computers is not a reason that the iPhone isn't being released.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying so I will clarify what I intended to communicate in my previous post. Perhaps Apple adds multiple features to iCal that can sync with the iPhone. This much could be true so let's assume that if it was true that there would likely be an info box for each event in the Calendar application that is extended from what Tiger has to offer. This could be a reason (probably not the only reason) why Apple is delaying the release of the phone for the next few months. As an important side note--the latest I've heard from news reports is that the iPhone's Calendar application isn't yet finalized. This gives us a hint that Leopard's iCal might receive quite a large update since it was last given a major update in Tiger :) and it also gives my speculation about one of the reasons that the iPhone is being delayed more credibility.

Perhaps, though, it is to keep from releasing some core elements of Leopard before Leopard itself is released...? Now that I might be able to believe.
How would those Leopard features sync with Tiger since Tiger doesn't have Leopard's features? Perhaps the Leopard features won't sync--but if that's the case then why is it even important that Apple keeps iPhone's Leopard features secret? It's not like we can guess which features that the iPhone has (and that Tiger doesn't have) will make it to Leopard. This much is true even if we see some of the un-syncable features of Leopard on the iPhone before we know the "Top Secret" features that Steve Jobs promised will be in Leopard.
 
Iv'e read three revews and they have all been good, even better than I was expecting eg
T3, The Times, bbc

http://www.t3.co.uk
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,20409-2542174.html

I was a bit of a cynic about apple before, I couldn't understand all your devotion to the cause but after this awesome new product I am a total believer in all things apple. I will shortly be ordering an apple TV when I ge my new imac (really, I am for real) to stream to it.

I don't care if its 2.5g, with wifi it will do all I need. There is no way I will pay my mobile operator the huge internet download fees
 
I just don't get this "putting in the pocket" thing in the first place. The iphone is not only as wide as a 80 gig ipod but it is longer to boot.

It is only .4 inches longer, and it is thinner and lighter than the 80 gig iPod, plus it has rounded edges. I'd say it's at least as pocketable as an iPod, if not more so. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the contract. And I'd carry it in my pocket.
 
The 3G decision has to do with lack of near term network coverage - something clearly out of Apple's hands.
I thought the 3G decision had to do with there not being a decent slim 3G chipset that Apple could use.

Google "blackjack battery life".

AFAIK, the BlackJack is the only thin 3G device currently in the US, and people are doing all sorts of hacks to make it *NOT* use 3G so that they can make the battery last half the day.
 
I love the iPhone, but I seriously doubt that a qwerty keyboard can ever be as quick as predictive texting on a keypad. A keypad with predictive text will always take less strokes than a qwerty one.

QWERTY takes exactly one stroke per letter, whereas typing with numeric keypad can take several strokes per letter. So how exactly can you say that keypad will "always" have less strokes than a full keyboard does? Also, you need to pause for a while between letters, if the two consequative letters are behind same hardware-button, and that slows you down. And who says that you can't have predictive texting with QWERTY? I have predictive texting on my Nokia 770 Internet Tablet, and it has onscreen QWERTY-keyboard.
 
Touchscreen .......

I was just thinking, couldn't they be tinking about a Keyboard foir the desktop maschienes and maybe even laptops, that don't have actuall keys anymore but the same touch screens as the iphone, that wopuld be great if you ask me, you could chance the layout for every button and no more dust or liquids getting in to your key/mother board , the only thing i'm not sure on is how that would make the price of a keyboard look :D
 
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