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I want you to go watch interview by Howard Lutnick.

You will understand the whole bring manufacturing back is scam. Let me ask you this question: Would you want work at minimum wage and working over 10 hours a day to assemble iPhone? Ask yourself this question. If you don't want to do it, then why do you think others in US wants? Would you want working in an assembly line, making minimum wage and still can't afford yourself?
When we can't even find enough Americans to do farm or certain hospitality work, where was Apple going to find the ~200,000 skilled Americans they'd need to assemble iPhones during their peak seasonal period?

Trump backpedaling on the tariffs through special exemptions and pauses just like he'll eventually backpedal on his promise to deport all the undocumented people because, like it or not, we need them


President Donald Trump suggested at a Cabinet meeting Thursday that undocumented people working on farms and in hotels would be allowed to leave the country and return as legal workers if their employers vouched for them.

Trump said at the meeting with reporters present that “we have to take care of our farmers, the hotels and, you know, the various places where they tend to, where they tend to need people.”

"So a farmer will come in with a letter concerning certain people, saying they’re great, they’re working hard. We’re going to slow it down a little bit for them, and then we’re going to ultimately bring them back. They’ll go out. They’re going to come back as legal workers."

It was unclear what he meant by “slow it down a little bit for them.” The administration has been pouring resources into arresting, detaining and deporting undocumented immigrants to fulfill Trump’s campaign pledge to conduct a history-making mass deportation of immigrants from the United States.

About 40% of U.S. crop farmworkers are undocumented, according to the Agriculture Department. About 1.1 million undocumented people worked in the hospitality industry — hotels and restaurants — about 7.6% of the workforce, in 2023, according to an analysis by the American Immigration Council, a legal group that advocates for immigration.
 
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I was waiting for this, companies jacking up prices BEFORE they are actually paying the tariffs... THAT should be illegal, but look whjere we are today. AND no that said tariffs are NOT being imposed on electronic stuff, will they roll back their pricing?
 
Their stuff lasts about a year and it’s done. I won't buy from them again after trying to get a replacement for the external battery that I bought from them died 6 months into owning it.
I’ve been buying Anker products since 2018, and every single one, from cables to power banks to charging pucks, still work perfectly. Their GaN line of charging accessories made Apple look like absolute fools, and they still haven’t caught up.
 
I was waiting for this, companies jacking up prices BEFORE they are actually paying the tariffs... THAT should be illegal, but look whjere we are today. AND no that said tariffs are NOT being imposed on electronic stuff, will they roll back their pricing?

Surely the free market is being able to charge what you want?
 
I was waiting for this, companies jacking up prices BEFORE they are actually paying the tariffs... THAT should be illegal, but look whjere we are today. AND no that said tariffs are NOT being imposed on electronic stuff, will they roll back their pricing?
Not all electronics have had the tariffs removed, only specific categories.

Digital still and video cameras (8525) as well as chargers and batteries (8504) and cables (8544) fall under different categories than the ones exempted and will still face tariffs unless something further changes.
 
I was waiting for this, companies jacking up prices BEFORE they are actually paying the tariffs... THAT should be illegal, but look whjere we are today. AND no that said tariffs are NOT being imposed on electronic stuff, will they roll back their pricing?
Is the Pope Jewish?

1st Rule of Acquisition: Once you have their money, you never give it back.
 
And the best way to do that is not to penalize Americans companies or consumers, but rather do as China and other countries do: reward companies with key incentives (tax breaks, help, land, etc.) to produce in America. Do it for specific industries where there's particular need/desire to produce in America. Then let the free market system take it from there. Make it so companies make MORE profit if they produce in America.

Who pays for the tax breaks when the US has a $2Tn deficit? The tax payers - on borrowed money from China and other countries who you're trying to stop funneling money to. What is more is that incentives and tax breaks enrich shareholders (who may not be American) at the expense of the tax payers.

Tariffs put the pressure on the companies and shareholders to absorb the cost, or negotiate lower prices from the foreign manufacturers, or to move production out of those countries entirely.

Your proposed solution is exactly what has caused the problems over the last 50-60 years. It's not 'free market' it's the transfer of tax payer money to private shareholders.
 
Who pays for the tax breaks when the US has a $2Tn deficit? The tax payers - on borrowed money from China and other countries who you're trying to stop funneling money to. What is more is that incentives and tax breaks enrich shareholders (who may not be American) at the expense of the tax payers.

Tariffs put the pressure on the companies and shareholders to absorb the cost, or negotiate lower prices from the foreign manufacturers, or to move production out of those countries entirely.

Your proposed solution is exactly what has caused the problems over the last 50-60 years. It's not 'free market' it's the transfer of tax payer money to private shareholders.
The suggestion I gave should be used very rarely. Tariffs almost never. Tariffs get absorbed by multiple players all of which do poorer -- the consumer usually aborbes the most, then others from the retail to the supply chain absorb the rest. In the end, it can cost American jobs, and make everyone more poor. The best option most of the time isn't the incentives I listed nor tariffs but rather letting companies do what works best. It's been working. People have been getting jobs so much so that many companies from hospitality to high tech have all been struggling to fill jobs. Don't fix problems that don't exist
 
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There's always Samsung and LG. Korea got a 90 day reprieve. Hurry!


Why is a bull in a china shop the only alternative to kicking the can down the road?


Guarantee, not warranty. One is not like the other. It's six years in the UK (except for Scotland, 5 years). In practice, you get usually get a one year manufacturer's warranty to go along with your sales guarantee. If you want longer, you have to pay for an extended warranty. 2 years is the minimum sales guarantee in the EU, although individual members can set more favourable consumer guarantee periods. It has been 5/6 years in the UK since 1979.
Trump stated his intentions on Tariff in May 2024 and through out his campaign.
He did not stop.
Maybe nobody took him serious until, the chute was opened.
But let’s be a little fair, he gave fore warning.
 
Trump stated his intentions on Tariff in May 2024 and through out his campaign.
He did not stop.
Maybe nobody took him serious until, the chute was opened.
But let’s be a little fair, he gave fore warning.

It is not about fairness. How many time does people need to say about this for you to believe in.

He never said what is fair and why current system is unfair. If you believe trade deficit is unfair, then please go learn some basic economics.

Let me ask you, what is fair means for you? Countries around the world need buy more from the United States? If so, is America capable to produce all the additional purchases?

Every time Trump waving the Tariff is when he going to do the stupid tax cut for the riches. This happens in 2018 and this is happening again in 2025.

If you pay attention, the tariff starts right when Trump wants to do tax cut. He then back paddled the tariff after congress give him funding for next two years.

Guess what, he is playing tariff again this year and congress just passed other tax cut.

He is never about fairness, he is about getting money to fund his stupid tax cut.
 
It is not about fairness. How many time does people need to say about this for you to believe in.

He never said what is fair and why current system is unfair. If you believe trade deficit is unfair, then please go learn some basic economics.

Let me ask you, what is fair means for you? Countries around the world need buy more from the United States? If so, is America capable to produce all the additional purchases?

Every time Trump waving the Tariff is when he going to do the stupid tax cut for the riches. This happens in 2018 and this is happening again in 2025.

If you pay attention, the tariff starts right when Trump wants to do tax cut. He then back paddled the tariff after congress give him funding for next two years.

Guess what, he is playing tariff again this year and congress just passed other tax cut.

He is never about fairness, he is about getting money to fund his stupid tax cut.
You misread my post.
The fairness is in reference to, he didn’t spring it on anyone overnight.
There was no bull in a china shop.
If I was a betting man,this was intentional to give a taste of what will happen.
We shall see if counties negotiate, countries stand firm, or if Trump takes it off the table
 
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Nothing from Vietnam or India?
High demand, coupled with a sudden drop in availability, will cause prices to rise. If the goal is to shift manufacturing away from China, imposing tariffs on countries like Vietnam and India is counterproductive. Goods will simply become more expensive for U.S consumers. If the goal is to bring manufacturing back to the U.S., then what’s the plan? The U.S currently lacks the infrastructure, labor force, and skills needed to mass-produce at an extreme scale.
 
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Their stuff lasts about a year and its done. I won't buy from them again after trying to get a replacement for the external battery that I bought from them died 6 months into owning it.

Been buying Anker products for over 10 years now - never once had an issue. Every company will have issues from time to time, of course, but I'd not hesitate for a second to recommend their products (and have, many times).
 
Not all electronics have had the tariffs removed, only specific categories.

Digital still and video cameras (8525) as well as chargers and batteries (8504) and cables (8544) fall under different categories than the ones exempted and will still face tariffs unless something further changes.

Cameras are a specialist consumer device at this point. For the few people that want to buy them they will probably just pay the tariffs. It’s unlikely Nikon or Canon etc are going to open up in the US.

Chargers, cables and batteries are chicken feed which will still probably remain in Asia and will just become more expensive for US consumers.

What a result for the US consumer.
 
To my knowledge, there aren't any products like that made in the USA. It's possible there aren't any made in North America. Tariffs wouldn't solve that problem anytime soon. Also, they'd have to make it cheaply enough to compete in North America, which would be extremely difficult if not impossible.

Outside of Asia, I don't think there is any large manufacturing presence in any other region for small electronics products and accessories like what Anker produces. 🤔 I think you'll find some products manufactured in other places but nowhere near the same scale.
That’s one of the many problems with tariffs: you cant slap essentially a sales tax Willy-nilly and expect manufacturing would magically move back to US in a few days or even a few months. Even the existing industry would hurt in some ways given how intertwined our supply chain has become over the past few decades. Smashing that system with a hammer ain’t gonna fix anything magically or incentivise businesses to come to America to “build stuff”.

But the damage has been done so let’s see if America loves to be uncoupled by the rest of the world. Only time will tell. As for Anker and everyone else, they are going to have to find their own ways to navigate around such turbulent times.
 
High demand, coupled with a sudden drop in availability, will cause prices to rise. If the goal is to shift manufacturing away from China, imposing tariffs on countries like Vietnam and India is counterproductive. Goods will simply become more expensive for U.S consumers. If the goal is to bring manufacturing back to the U.S., then what’s the plan? The U.S currently lacks the infrastructure, labor force, and skills needed to mass-produce at an extreme scale.
Plus the willingness for at least part of the US population to accept abysmal living wages of $1-3/hr. Essentially, Vietnamese salary living in US, or Chinese salary living in US. I doubt it is going to work, at least not very soon, even citizens living in the red states.
 
Anker is so overrated these days.
I got myself some Ankerworks wireless microphones, a lot cheaper than others like DJI and they work great.
Ankerwork is part of Anker.

I got myself a Anker mouse a couple of years ago for so, for the price, it was very good.
I know people who have other stuff from Anker and they are fine,


lots of companies are overhyped, Samsung being one.
 
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No price increase in the UK! We bought a few Anker cables this week for my wife's new iPhone 16 that had ...... gone down in price. It's going to be an interesting 4 years to say the least. Maybe Apple prices will finally equalise between the UK and the US. We've always paid far more .. and it's been nothing to do with tariffs.
When stuff comes over here to the U.K, they just sick a dollar sign in front of the prices, which is why they are more expensive, no conversion whatsoever
 
Essentially, Vietnamese salary living in US, or Chinese salary living in US. I doubt it is going to work,
You’d need a Chinese or Vietnamese president to run the US. They’re pretty good at running their own countries, developing their countries—can the US keep up with that?
 
It would have helped tons for both those shopping for such items and the American companies that make them if you could have listed a few that make products like Anker 100% in the US. While I don't have a huge problem buying Chinese made products I would definitely prefer American if the quality is solid and price reasonable.
And price would be the problem, even if you could get enough Americans to work in those places. It's the same in the U.K., people want a decent wage, which is understandable, but you give people a decent wage and price have to increase. The other problem is getting people to work in these places. I worked in a factory for a few years, never again. i work in retail now and while it is not great, far better than factory work.

Another problem is even if the product is produced in the U.S. or here in the U.K., some parts will still come from China and other countries.

I would love to go back to the days when we produced more in the U.K, like people in the U.s want to see it happen in in the U.S, but it is not going to happen.
Years ago we had a company called Ferguson, they were part of Thorn and they used to make TV set and videos and that sort of thing. The name Fergoson is still around and they still produce TV sets, which they say is made in the U.K, but they are only assembled in the U.K and the name is now owned by Cello, which they say is British, but I have my doubts.

In the U.K, people complain about the amount of immigrants that comes into the country, okay, lest stop them all, but are these people prepared to go and pick fruit and do the jobs that some of these immigrants do?
I am all for stopping those coming in that just want to take money and do nothing, believe we have enough of our own doing that. But if they come here and want to do jobs that other people won't, then why the hell not?

We in the U.K. have the same problems and issue as the U.S., just on a smaller scale.
 
Never trusted their stuff anyway. Neither powerbanks nor power bricks and cords. There are so many better brands out there with great quality control. They obviously cost more but at least offer safety and build quality. Too bad Apple has been cheapo in recent years and you have to buy accessories yourself, otherwise those are best in terms of quality
 
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