Another iPad 3 another disappointing display, buyer beware.

[TheWheelMan]

very funny guys, let me ask you this though... How come everyone developed hysteria and ocd with the ipad 3, and suddenly a whole lot of people started having screen issues with it? How come you don't see that on the ipods forum, or the iphone, or for that matter (except for the occasional backlight bleed thread) on the ipad 1 or 2 forums before?

There are two possible explanations:
a. There's a particular kind of hysteria and ocd that affects people. But unless they buy any other apple i-device other than the ipad, they don't have this hysteria.
b. The ipad 3 has screen issues.

So, which one is it?

This isn't about whether or not there are screen issues, it's about how many of the ones saying they've returned numerous iPads really were going out of their way to find flaws that really had nothing to do with the operation or usage of the product for everyday tasks. It also has to do with, as I said above, with people who have had misfortunes that they have bad screens too and are too stupid or blind to know it. If you want people to stop telling you that your flawed screens are in your head, stop telling those of us saying we have perfect screens that we just aren't smart enough to see the flaws.

 

[blow45]

Because many of you who have had problematic iPads insist that those of us without problems are just too blind, stupid, or clueless to see the problems, or claim to "know" that the majority of iPads are flawed.

I'll ease up on the perennial b*tchers when they stop trying to tell everyone who is happy with their iPads that they are clueless about what their screens actually look like.

You are delusional, no one has told you, you are clueless, or blind or stupid of how your ipad screen looks like, or that you have an ipad with a decent screen, everyone told, good, be happy enjoy, lucky for you. For some reason though you don't seem to get unstuck from the ipad subforum and from what I 've read so far, every thread that concerns ipad screen quality. And you even insist on calling others "b*tchers". Like I said, go check out some nice apps plenty of them, find some accessories, maybe check out the programming sub forum to get into that a bit.

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This isn't about whether or not there are screen issues, it's about how many of the ones saying they've returned numerous iPads really were going out of their way to find flaws that really had nothing to do with the operation or usage of the product for everyday tasks. It also has to do with, as I said above, with people who have had misfortunes that they have bad screens too and are too stupid or blind to know it. If you want people to stop telling you that your flawed screens are in your head, stop telling those of us saying we have perfect screens that we just aren't smart enough to see the flaws.

Buddy no one told you you are not smart enough to see the faults, can you try at least to understand this? No one is going out of their way to find faults on the ipad screen, people don't particularly enjoy spending their time that way. As evidenced by ipods, iphones, previous gen ipads, there weren't any threads (or the occasional thread here and there) of people going through many i-devices to get a screen that fit the bill. It's an ipad 3 phenomenon. People didn't just go bonkers with the ipad 3 and not any apple i-device because there isn't a problem.

Anyway, way to mess up a thread, my original question about contrast as compared to the ipad 1 and 2 has gone down the drain, thanks.

 

[daneoni]

I've given up on the iPad 3 screens. 4 iPad 3s and all had issues.

 

[blow45]

I've given up on the iPad 3 screens. 4 iPad 3s and all had issues.

That's very dissapointing to here, cause I plan on continuing until my patience runs out...

 

[TheWheelMan]

You are delusional, no one has told you, you are clueless, or blind or stupid of how your ipad screen looks like, or that you have an ipad with a decent screen, everyone told, good, be happy enjoy, lucky for you. For some reason though you don't seem to get unstuck from the ipad subforum and from what I 've read so far, every thread that concerns ipad screen quality. And you even insist on calling others "b*tchers". Like I said, go check out some nice apps plenty of them, find some accessories, maybe check out the programming sub forum to get into that a bit.

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Buddy no one told you you are not smart enough to see the faults, can you try at least to understand this? No one is going out of their way to find faults on the ipad screen, people don't particularly enjoy spending their time that way. As evidenced by ipods, iphones, previous gen ipads, there weren't any threads (or the occasional thread here and there) of people going through many i-devices to get a screen that fit the bill. It's an ipad 3 phenomenon. People didn't just go bonkers with the ipad 3 and not any apple i-device because there isn't a problem.

Anyway, way to mess up a thread, my original question about contrast as compared to the ipad 1 and 2 has gone down the drain, thanks.

I've seen several posts over the last few months telling people that the one's who think they have perfect screens just don't know better or are settling for bad screens. To me that implies that the people whose iPads are fine (spelled the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y), are too stupid to know the difference between a good screen and a bad one.

Keep living in your world of denial, though. And keep repeating b*tching about your misfortunes and trying to scare everyone away from iPads. And I'll keep sharing my differing opinion whenever I feel like it. If you want people to stop harassing those of you with legitimate problems, then those with legitimate problems need to stop harassing those with perfect screens. There's really no reason that we should be at odds, but we are because everyone is trying to force their views or opinions on one another. Either both sides need to stop, or it'll never end.

 

[blow45]

Wake up! No one harassed you here, you just came out of the blue with a grudge, everyone told good for you that you have good screen enjoy...jesus christ man... if people get lemon screens they are going to come posting about it in the forums, what are you going to do, police every thread in which they do?

 

[stevemiller]

I initially got an iPad that had a yellow tint running along the left edge in portrait mode. I debated for a while as to whether I was just being too picky, or taking it back would just get me an even worse screen. In the end, I gave an exchange a try, and the new screen that I got was very nice.

So I have no doubt that there are some people who are just having very bad luck with getting lemons.. But from personal experience, I can say that there are good screens out there, too

 

[The Bogeyman]

It's a strange business this, yellow tint thing. I have an iPad 3, and the screen is spectacularly good. It's my first and I love it. I also know several other people who have iPad3, and have compared mine to theirs and not seen any difference. No yellowness, no dead pixels or anything.
I wonder why some people are having so much bad luck with them and others like mine are spot on. Perhaps one of the screen manufacturers has had a bad batch or two. It is normal for any manufacturing process to have bad batches from time to time, and I bet electronics are no different.
Good luck to you all.

 

[BFizzzle]

You are delusional, no one has told you, you are clueless, or blind or stupid...

Well, I went looking to buy one because I wanted one. These threads had nothing to do with it. The screens are visibly bad and I truly believe there are a lot of color blind people out there.

maybe not stupid or directly at him, butttt i've seen many of posts like this, that say that everyone who has a good one is color blind or "doesn't want to see it"


im sure there are people who have screen issues, but its not a wide spread problem that most people make it out to be. Apple hasn't released numbers besides one month after the launch (over 3 million sold at that point) so its safe to say well over 5 million sold now (probably closer to the 10 mark). There is NO way that many ipads have been sold and all of them are defected, or that many people are "color" blind. To say so is just ignorant.

People need to file complaints with the BBB, FTC etc. if they are actually getting multiple ipads with screen issues, instead of whining about itand posting another redundant thread on this forum.

 

[seadragon]

...instead of whining about itand posting another redundant thread on this forum.

If people go through multiple iPads and can't get a good one as some of you have, you can rest assured they will post on an iPad forum about their experience and I totally understand it having played the screen lottery. If all the threads where happy and flowery, they too would be redundant. Then there would be nothing to read and no need for a discussion forum.

As far as the color blind comment, that was just a half joking type remark on my part. However, I have witnessed 2 different people look at the same screen where one sees a defect and the other does not. So, either one person is "color blind" or the other is seeing in technicolor.

Most of the iPad 3 screens I've looked at in person had a visible color shift, yellow patches and uneven back lighting. Upon looking at a number of iPad 2s, I did not see any of these problems. Its as plain as day to my eyes.

 

[BFizzzle]

If people go through multiple iPads and can't get a good one as some of you have, you can rest assured they will post on an iPad forum about their experience and I totally understand it having played the screen lottery. If all the threads where happy and flowery, they too would be redundant. Then there would be nothing to read and no need for a discussion forum.

As far as the color blind comment, that was just a half joking type remark on my part. However, I have witnessed 2 different people look at the same screen where one sees a defect and the other does not. So, either one person is "color blind" or the other is seeing in technicolor.

Most of the iPad 3 screens I've looked at in person had a visible color shift, yellow patches and uneven back lighting. Upon looking at a number of iPad 2s, I did not see any of these problems. Its as plain as day to my eyes.

lol not once did i ever say only post positive things, dont skew what i said.

i said to do something about it besides posts another thread that is already been made. I would be saying the same thing to anyone who is posting a thread that is already made several times whether it be a "i got a perfect screen yay" or "my screen has this tint". ...
ive said it to people who create a new ipad mini rumor thread that we already have more then enough of those..

People should keep them on the same thread. Everyone doesn't need their own personal thread for the same topic. its easier to discuss if its all in a single thread.

if its such a widespread problem and apple receives illegitimate quality control complaints from the ftc or BBB something will be done so people do not continue to have this problem.

 

[seadragon]

lol not once did ever say only post positive things, dont skew what i said.

The "instead of whining about it and posting another redundant thread on this forum." came across as not wanting to hear a complaint. Thanks for clarifying. My comment is more based on the general gist around this forum to look down on those that post any criticisms or negative experience with Apple or their products. This was well evidenced by the extensive use of the "vote down" arrows (that have now been removed thankfully) by the fan boys here.

People should keep them on the same thread. Everyone doesn't need their own personal thread for the same topic. its easier to discuss if its all in a single thread.

Agree with you mostly on this. However, a thread that is too large can also be hard to follow if it's pages upon pages long.

if its such a widespread problem and apple receives illegitimate quality control complaints from the ftc or BBB something will be done so people do not continue to have this problem.

I don't think those agencies are too concerned with individual product quality, but more with things like fraud and the business ethics and standards of a company in general. For example, in my case, I would not say that Apple has been unethical in any way because I went through 4 iPads and never ended up getting a good one. Had I not been able to get a refund due to the defects however, I might feel differently about it.

 

[bufffilm]

if its such a widespread problem and apple receives illegitimate quality control complaints from the ftc or BBB something will be done so people do not continue to have this problem.

huh?! neither of those agencies deal with QC matters. you're barkin' up the wrong tree.

 

[BFizzzle]

I don't think those agencies are too concerned with individual product quality, but more with things like fraud and the business ethics and standards of a company in general. For example, in my case, I would not say that Apple has been unethical in any way because I went through 4 iPads and never ended up getting a good one. Had I not been able to get a refund due to the defects however, I might feel differently about it.

not at all, the better business bureau has to do with anything with bettering business ethics whether it be fraud, or selling products that aren't the quality as advertised.


The FTC (federal trade commission) slogan is "protecting Americas consumers" i couldn't think of any better government bureau to voice a concern to as a consumer of apple.

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huh?! neither of those agencies deal with QC matters. you're barkin' up the wrong tree.

you're the one barking up the wrong tree.
you most certainly can.

Lol pretty clear

sorry couldn't resist it lol

 

[TheWheelMan]

...if people get lemon screens they are going to come posting about it in the forums, what are you going to do, police every thread in which they do?

And some of them are then going to tell everyone who says that their screens are fine that all iPads suck and that they just don't know or care about their "obviously" bad screens. Or their going to declare that no one should buy an iPad all of the screens suck. Neither of those statements are true, and I'm sick and tired of people intentionally trying to chase people away from a device based on their individual problems. We know there are problems, but some of you are taking those problems and blowing them up into an international epidemic affecting every damn iPad being made.

Letting them know about potential problems to look for is fine. Scaring the bejesus out of them so that they won't even touch an Ipad because of your own personal experiences is just not fair.

 

[bufffilm]

do you know what the screenshots show? it shows that you can read but you don't comprehend.

those agencies follow-up on cases where a manufacturer makes false claims (eg. saying a device has a 10 hr battery life when it lasts 5 or saying a processor is running at X GHz when it's running at a much different speed) or when quality is blatantly substandard.

we know apple doesn't make substandard quality products - a defective ipad screen w/color shift or tints which got overlooked by a random QC check isn't what they're after. and as long as apple is giving buyers the option to exchange or refund on the defective product, that's largely the extent of what these agencies will do for cases of complaints about the defective products.

to tell users to file a claim with the FTC or the BBB [instead of dealing with Apple] when they have a complaint with their ipad and are looking for redress is diversionary and wrong.

not at all, the better business bureau has to do with anything with bettering business ethics whether it be fraud, or selling products that aren't the quality as advertised.


The FTC (federal trade commission) slogan is "protecting Americas consumers" i couldn't think of any better government bureau to voice a concern to as a consumer of apple.

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you're the one barking up the wrong tree.
you most certainly can.

Lol pretty clear

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sorry couldn't resist it lol

 

[rkahl]

I've seen several posts over the last few months telling people that the one's who think they have perfect screens just don't know better or are settling for bad screens. To me that implies that the people whose iPads are fine (spelled the M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y), are too stupid to know the difference between a good screen and a bad one.

Keep living in your world of denial, though. And keep repeating b*tching about your misfortunes and trying to scare everyone away from iPads. And I'll keep sharing my differing opinion whenever I feel like it. If you want people to stop harassing those of you with legitimate problems, then those with legitimate problems need to stop harassing those with perfect screens. There's really no reason that we should be at odds, but we are because everyone is trying to force their views or opinions on one another. Either both sides need to stop, or it'll never end.

I concur with WheelMan, just go back and read mcdj's ridiculous posts when the iPad came out... Thank goodness he just gave up! If you couldn't prove that you had a perfect screen then your eyes were not to his level of expertise!

 

[Trey1984]

My iPad 2 has light leak, but you don't see me complaining. Everything will never come out perfect

 

[Rogifan]

I'm on m first new iPad and have no issues. Never had any issues with my iPad 2 either.

 

[ThatsMeRight]

I know I am going to get flamed here, but I suppose I ll have to handle the flames and get on with the good posters...

This is my second iPad and this time although the yellow hue is better (its still a problem mind you) the contrast is much worse, to the extent that side to side on min brightness the iPad 3 is much dimmer to the iPad 2...

Another disappointment here, and I guess another round of namecalling an op such as myself will ensue from the minions, but there's a real problem here, these screens might be great due to the high pixel count, but they are poor screens otherwise.

I waited for sometime to avoid these problems but sadly quality hasn't really picked up it seems...

Anyone else have contrast issues?

It is supposed to be darker at minimum brightness.

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I concur with WheelMan, just go back and read mcdj's ridiculous posts when the iPad came out... Thank goodness he just gave up! If you couldn't prove that you had a perfect screen then your eyes were not to his level of expertise!

It is idiotic to expect the best of the best screens available. For most people it's a big leap forward compared to the iPad 2. Most people just care about how sharp it is, and they don't care when there is some colour shifting when holding it under an extreme angle. Your expectations are too high.

 

[seadragon]

It is idiotic to expect the best of the best screens available. For most people it's a big leap forward compared to the iPad 2. Most people just care about how sharp it is, and they don't care when there is some colour shifting when holding it under an extreme angle. Your expectations are too high.

And then there are those that DO care about more than just sharpness. The iPad is just one big screen so it needs to be good in all aspects, not just sharpness. Big leap forward? In resolution only perhaps. The color shift is visible when looking at the screen straight on. No need to look at extreme angles. Just holding it in a normal reading position shows red and green tints across the screen. The iPad 2 screen is noticeably better when it comes to color shift and even back lighting from the many I've compared.

As far as expectations being too high, it could also be said that some have standards that are too low.

I have no doubt Apple will get it right someday. Perhaps next year's model.

 

[TheWheelMan]

...As far as expectations being too high, it could also be said that some have standards that are too low...

And yet another person trying to tell those of us (the majority) who have fine iPad screens that we don't know what we are looking at.

 

[myrtlebee]

And yet another person trying to tell those of us (the majority) who have fine iPad screens that we don't know what we are looking at.

That's not what he said. I agree with the poster. Apple is all about having high expectations, not "it's good enough" standards.

 

[seadragon]

And yet another person trying to tell those of us (the majority) who have fine iPad screens that we don't know what we are looking at.

Yes, you have low standards if you think a red/green tinted, blotchy backlit screen is okay. The person I had quoted said that people's expectations are too high. I disagreed.

We can argue all day long if you like.

 

[seadragon]

That's not what he said. I agree with the poster. Apple is all about having high expectations, not "it's good enough" standards.

Thank you. It's refreshing to see that some people get it. The tinted screens are not up to the high standards that long time Apple customers like me have come to expect from them.