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If you want to use the objective term sales, there were multiple iPhones, and smartphones launch at different times. The Driod X phones came out during the iPhone 3GS, and once they did, they sucked up all the media attention and consistently outsold the 3GS on a week to week basis up till the iPhone 4 came out. So by that measure, they objectively outsold and "killed" the iPhone 3GS, but then the iPhone 4 killed them.

False..

now you're just going from personal opinion to making up false facts and pulling details out of your arse
 
imagine if apple had a phone of this spec the OS would utilize the power soo well. Shame the android OS lets the package down IMO of course
 
No they are talking about a phone that a sufficient number of people prefer and gravitate to over the iPhone.

No, you're just trying to find a definition that suits your reality. Unfortunately for you, the definition of "kill" is objective. For something to be an "iPhone killer", than it needs to take the iPhone's place in the market and sustain it, at least for a while.

Even when the Droid/Droid Incredible/whatever came out, they never did that. They had decent sales, but ask the average person what they think of the Droid. Then ask them what they think of the iPhone.
 
I have a Droid X and will probably migrate to the iPhone 4 (or wait until June to see if 5 is released on Verizon) on verizon. It honestly has nothing to do with apps, or speed or anything else. The main reason for my move is simply that my Droid Phone is a phone and does really nothing else. Using my phone to control my AppleTV or run my itunes thru my stereo is amazing. I already do this with my iPad, but I don't have it with me at all times like I do my phone. Further, now that there is wifi hotspot built in, it takes a way the only thing my Driod X does that no iphone can. I want all my devices to work together and not each a different device that I have to figure out how to keep everything in sync. This is the real power of the iphone.
 
Some of us DO care!:mad:

Some choose to lead while others are happy to follow like sheep!:p
And just what are you "leading"? Seriously. Think deeply and answer that seriously.

You don't think you're being lead like sheep by every new Android phone that comes out, proclaiming it's THE Iphone Killer? People like you are the ones spending all the money on these phones every couple of months, dumping one for another to get the next supposed greatest, you know. I buy one every two years. I think you may have your equation inverted.
 
Looks like a nicely spec'ed phone..

The real question is: When the heck does it come out?

All these CES droidphones are a load of hot air until they're actually released (or a release date is set).
 
The Only thing these phones are killing is the phone it replaces.

These android phones are really getting rediculous...

Regarding the posted feature above, I'd say its a redundant feature. I douno but theres really no reason to connect my phone directly to my laptop for movie watching, it tend to already have most of what I choose to watch on it. I don't need my phone to do that if I have my laptop with me, unless I'm missing something of real importance I don't get it.

Once you move a product well beyond practicality it becomes usless.
This is the single most reason why I have yet to be tempted by all the razzle dazzle offerings of the droid/android phones.
 
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These android phones are really getting rediculous...

I agree. I really can't stand all of these new "innovative features" that are just absurd. Do I really need to power my house through my phone?
 
The only thing proven to be an iPhone killer is the iPhone +1, ie. the new version that comes out every year. Even then, it might be safer to say the iPhone +2 because they sell the old model on the cheap for an extra year.

Alternatively, you could argue that iOS updates can deliver the final nail in the coffin, as seen in the 4.3 beta that does not support the venerable 3G anymore.

This new Droid phone looks pretty cool and has some decent features, but nothing so amazingly over the top (in a good/practical way!) that it will actually kill such a thoroughly entrenched competitor in the iPhone.
 
Regarding the posted feature above, I'd say its a redundant feature. I douno but theres really no reason to connect my phone directly to my laptop for movie watching, it tend to already have most of what I choose to watch on it. I don't need my phone to do that if I have my laptop with me, unless I'm missing something of real importance I don't get it.

Yes there indeed is something of importance that you didn't get.

You are not connecting your phone to your laptop. You are connecting it to a dock that transforms the dock itself into a laptop. Basically for a person that only has a desktop and would love to watch films during long flights, this is perfect. Instead of buying a $1200 Macbook Pro, they could instead buy this phone and the dock, and the dock itself functions as a laptop.
 
The only people who use that term are iPhone fanboys, and the only place I see it is in Apple forums. The product isn't being marketed to kill the iPhone by the carrier or the manufacturer.

I still see "iPhone Killer" and "iPad Killer" in news headlines. Just saw a headline for an article about "iPad Killers from CES" yesterday.
 
Motorola Atrix Vs. Samsung Focus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEdxqZt6uw

Overall smoothness and response favors WP7.


Google's Matias Duarte talks Honeycomb, tablets, design, and the future of Android

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcuDQd8SejM

^^ Matias states he arrived at Google AFTER Froyo. His influence on Honeycomb shows in the Xoom.


Introducing the MOTOROLA XOOM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7zheLybA-Q


^^ It is why I have no interest in the iPad or iPad 2. Since I already have an iP4, it would be iOS redundancy. For my tablet, I want Honeycomb (Xoom) or QNX (PlayBook). Both look to appear on internet tablets first before cell phones.
 
I predict not this year.

Interesting take on Apple's "revolutionary" products. Now Jobs loves to use the words magical for more brainwashing.


Home / News & Blogs / Ed Bott's Microsoft Report
At Apple, everything is "revolutionary"
By Ed Bott | January 6, 2011, 10:54am PST

Apple launched its App Store for the Mac today. The press release announcing that the store was open for business includes this bit of puffery: “The Mac App Store brings the revolutionary App Store experience to the Mac…”

Revolutionary. Hmmm, where have I heard that word before? Oh yeah, in just about every Apple press release since 1999. Apple has declared a revolution for software, for Macs and mice, for its CD and DVD drives, for iPods and iPhones and iPads, for syncing music to a portable player, and even for its Internet strategy. Several of those “revolutionary” products no longer exist, and others were simply refined implementations of technologies that had already been done by others. No matter. If it comes from Cupertino, it must be revolutionary.

Ok, I'll give you that Apple (specifically Steve Jobs) does sometimes overuse the word 'revolutionary' but some of the products you mention above were/are truly revolutionary. Revolutionary simply means "characterized by...a sudden, complete, or marked change" or "outside or beyond established procedure, principles, etc." (via dictionary.com)

Of the products you mentioned, it's undeniable that the iPod, iPhone, iPad, and Multi-touch in general are 'revolutionary' under the dictionary description. It could also be argued that Garage Band, the magic mouse, the iTunes store, the App Store, OSX Tiger, and Final Cut Pro are also 'revolutionary'.

No, you're just trying to find a definition that suits your reality. Unfortunately for you, the definition of "kill" is objective. For something to be an "iPhone killer", than it needs to take the iPhone's place in the market and sustain it, at least for a while.

Even when the Droid/Droid Incredible/whatever came out, they never did that. They had decent sales, but ask the average person what they think of the Droid. Then ask them what they think of the iPhone.

+1. This is the exact point that I made in my first post. "iPhone/iPod killer" is an objective measure, while your personal opinion of which may be a better, more useful, or more revolutionary phone is the subjective measurement.
 
too bad it will be on AT&T.

well for you maybe.
For me I am really glad that it is going to AT&T because it is a really nice android phone I can get in may as when I replaced my phone in 09 AT&T did not have ANY android phones on their network at the time and did not get their first good one until summer of 2010.
 
I'm sorry but is it has moto blur I see it as a fail. I prefer the stock android. But oh well enjoy your android phone the becomes obsolete two days later ;)
 
I'm sorry but is it has moto blur I see it as a fail. I prefer the stock android. But oh well enjoy your android phone the becomes obsolete two days later ;)
I have heard that the near version of Moto blur (or as others call it Phil blur) it is really not that bad.
That being said I more than likely would root the phone and dump it any how for something like the cyanogen mod.
 
Idiot design. The phone should plug into the "laptop" in a way that the sum total looks like a laptop, not a laptop with some crap sticking out the back.

Should plug in to the right or left of the trackpad so it full integrates. Lazy engineering on Motorola's part. Part of the point of a laptop is to be able to walk around with it, not mind the damn phone sticking awkwardly out the back.

Amazing how inept Apple's competitors continue to be in design.

Otherwise interesting concept, though I'd take an iPad over it any day.

^^ Matias states he arrived at Google AFTER Froyo. His influence on Honeycomb shows in the Xoom.
I'll suffer redundancy for consistency any day.

What I don't want is redundant functionality - which if you DO have a use for both a phone and a tablet then why do you think an iPhone + iPad is redundant?
 
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You could have a phone give birth to unicorns and put out fires, but the iPhone sells because of iOS so specs never really matter much.
 
I'm not going to enter into the argument as to whether or not this phone is an iPhone killer.

What I do think is that this is likely to be the way that personal computing goes in the near term future until cloud computing really kicks in, in the medium term.

Users will carry their personal computer with them in the form of a phone with all their essential software/files then when at home/work they'd dock it with either a desktop setup/laptop setup/TV/projector/etc with additional storage/screen-space/media drives.

The phone would simply become the motherboard to your personal computing life.
 
lol I love how people still like to throw the words "iphone killer" around... you would think people would learn from the first 100 times this has failed.

It's human nature. Same case with World of Warcraft. Oh look! This upcoming flashy MMORPG will be THE WoW killer!

We all know how that turns out.
 
It's human nature. Same case with World of Warcraft. Oh look! This upcoming flashy MMORPG will be THE WoW killer!

We all know how that turns out.

Have you played DC Universe Online. It just came out a few days ago and it's absolutely amazing. IMHO (and according to others as well), the game is vastly superior to WoW and far more fun in almost every aspect.

Depends on which iPhone.

It's quite a bit cooler than the iPhone 4 imho. But I feel like the iPhone 5 will catch up by offering a dual core A9 processor, an updated gpu, 1gb of ram, a 4" Super AMOLED screen with full RGB subpixels, and some other features of it's own.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1021233/
I doubt the next iPhone will have a single one of those things. Maybe the ram, that's it.

Engadget is already reporting that the next iPhone does have a dual core A9 processor, and an updated GPU. I think 1gb of ram and AMOLED is also probable. Are you ready to eat your words yet? :)
 
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