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Can anyone tell me if the new 13" has the auto-switch graphics like the 15" and 17"?

No, because there is nothing to switch to. The 13" only has integrated graphics (the 320M is integrated with the NVIDIA controller chip). Auto-switching allows the computer to switch between integrated graphics and a discrete graphics chip (in the 15" and 17", between the integrated Intel HD graphics and the NVIDIA 330M discrete graphics chip).
 
All those explainations for the Core2Duo... BS!

This was a 100% business decision. If they want to put iX plus dedicated graphics into they 13" - they can do it! But they know that for the next refresh (new MBP generation) they have to redesign the MBPs so or so... They got a killer deal for a huge pile of C2Ds and are now making a nice profit margin.
Yes, the C2D is still ok for most people, but it is years old technology. Period!

And a year old technology is a bad thing? The CPU may have been out for a year, but that does not always mean its a bad decision to stay with it.

If you don't think its worth it then go and get the i5 or i7, its nice to know that for those that don't feel that its worth going to this new hardware that they can do that, nothing wrong with choice.
 
And a year old technology is a bad thing? The CPU may have been out for a year, but that does not always mean its a bad decision to stay with it.

If you don't think its worth it then go and get the i5 or i7, its nice to know that for those that don't feel that its worth going to this new hardware that they can do that, nothing wrong with choice.

Man, C2D's are way older than a year haha. WAY older.
 
SonyVaioZ height: 2,4-3,3 cm
AppleMacBook13: height: 2,4cm

for example...

So, not even a centimeter taller at parts and literally poops all over Apple's comparable machine. Nice going Apple.

I swear, it's kind of amazing to me people still buy this stuff. Underpowered, and less capable. I just don't get it. Oh well, guess I will keep making software for iPad/iPhone as long as people are buying the stuff. Still can't say I understand it.
 
Wow

All the positives ratings, but negative comments.....

1. If your ibook / powerbook really needs replacing, then anything will be a bump-up for you. So why you whining.

2. I am not one who upgrades everytime a new model comes out. my 2008 macbook (2.4 ghz, 2gb ram, 250 hd is performing greatly now that I removed parallels and Windows).

3. If I really need the power or a specificat the time I upgrade, then I look at and buy the appropriate machine for my needs, after I look and try it out in the retail store where there is plenty of light to see if the glossy screen will really hinder me.

Get over it. all computer companies are the same. They make machines based on what will sell, make a profit, and most likely will only ofer certain BTO options if any.
 
RE: The Outstanding idea to Remove the DVD

All current boxed software is sold on optical media. People still burn CDs and DVDs regularly.

Your idea is stupid for a bread and butter model like the 13" MBP.


I have had a Thinkpad without optical drive for four years and have not missed it a bit. I never need it to install software, even for purchased stuff like Office. It is way more convenient to download. I did buy an external drive when I bought the computer and regret it. I used it for about month to do back-ups but quickly moved to using an external HD, which is obviously way more practical. I would say that I have plugged in the external drive maybe 5 times in the past four years and I would have saved a lot of money had I just bought cheap flash drives for those occasions I needed to physically hand data to somebody else (I don't know anybody who burns CDs or DVDs anymore). More importantly I have not had to carry around an optical drive every single day for four years that I do not use.

I am going over to the MBP 13 once it gets unstuck from China. But one of the big minuses for me was that they still have the unnecessary optical drive. I would have paid more for the option not to have it just for the weight savings. Remove the optical drive to make room for i5 and 3G and I think the MBP would be the hands down best thin and light ever.
 
FWIW, I'm told that there isn't much difference between the C2D and the i3.

still like the form factor, but not temped to move on from my old blackbook.
I sold my blackbook, in part to get significantly longer battery life. :cool:

Poor trade-off. Smaller battery? Big deal. Most people don't need a notebook that lasts 10 hours off a single charge.
For years I've been saying I'd sacrifice some negligible processing horsepower to get much better battery life.

Now I'm just left to choose between the 10 hour 13" C2D MBP or the 8-9 hour 15" i5/i7 MBP...
 
hmm....

Intel should be extremely nervous that it actually makes sense for a major consumer computer company to stick with their old product rather than using their new one.

1. Crappy integrated GPU
2. Legal maneuvers to lock out much better competing integrated GPUs
3. CPU not really much of an improvement

It's no wonder that Apple is talking to AMD.
LOL, they're probably maintaining (the full) OS X on PPC and ARM, just in case.

Intel isn't nervous at all, unless the DOJ starts poking around. They know they have the performance king of processors right now and are trying to leverage that to push their sub-par IGPs.

I like AMD procs, but they don't have anything that's close to Intel in a mobile chip.
 
People still buy software in boxes??

Most of the big titles can be downloaded straight from the vendors.

Then you can just save the files to an SD card, hard drive, etc.
 
This whole discussion and the article is based on a finished product not what can be done by great minds. Apple wanted this computer with old reheated tech. The money and time spent getting a new old version of the 13" macbook pro could just as easy been spent designing and making a version that would work with i5 and 2nd GPU.

A product is shaped in the pre-project phase and the version in the shops is a product of that. You get what you want and Apple wanted this version. It has very little to do what is possible. This fact in development is just ignored in the article and you get false facts that is taken as truth.
 
The Current Macbook uses the same 2.4ghz CPU as my 2 year old Mac Book Unibody

lol Pro my Ballz

and they up the price in the UK too lol
 
All current boxed software is sold on optical media. People still burn CDs and DVDs regularly.

Your idea is stupid for a bread and butter model like the 13" MBP.

It's not stupid at all. First off an external drive cost nearly nothing nowadays. You load boxed software once and then you're done. How many CDs and DVDs are people really burning today? Most just take their music on their iPod and plug it into their cars aux jack. Even then, how many people need to do all this burning of CDs/DVDs on the go?

Why carry around a drive that you rarely use? Since Apple is so obsessed with weight and size, I'm surprised it's taken them this long to simply remove the internal optical in favor of an external option. My big hope for the last generation was that they would move the optical to external in favor of a boot SSD. Want to really speed up the MBP? Put the system drive on an SSD.
 
All current boxed software is sold on optical media. People still burn CDs and DVDs regularly.

Your idea is stupid for a bread and butter model like the 13" MBP.

I think it is not stupid. It is a good idea. You don't need an optical drive every day and if you need it, it can be easily be connected via USB. Apple could even ship the notebook with an external drive right in the box. It could even be attached to the main unit in some way.

But there is NO WAY to connect a faster GPU to a 13'' MacBook (as long Apple does not invent something new, come on - innovation please!)

Christian
 
All current boxed software is sold on optical media. People still burn CDs and DVDs regularly.

Your idea is stupid for a bread and butter model like the 13" MBP.

Not stupid at all...I agree with orbital 0. As a reminder Apple were the first to remove floppy from their computers. Physical supports are getting obsolete...i would prefer by far having my DVD reader as an external accessory, as most of people do not use it as they did in the past. That would leave some room for more recent technologies in the MB cases. I know the MBA is w/o DVD but here they wanted to make super thin, consequently and why it is a nice computer, it is not enough powerful for some customers. I would prefer the same size MBP with no DVD and more ports, power, etc...
 
From my point of view the MBP 13 is EXACTLY the thing it should be. There are some or even several forum users complaining and whining that there should be a faster CPU because it's much more up to date whilst getting the drawback of integrated graphics, or even proposing to cut the battery time in half for it.
10 hours of running time is something I did not dream about and now it's here. I love it!!

For an average PRO user it really should keep the superdrive. Even PROs may enjoy DVDs once in a while Hey buddies there are even keys on the keyboard I have never used in years, why not remove them to make space something consumers will adopt in the future? If you don't want (not need, want) a superdrive, buy an MBA or pray for a refresh of it.

Apple creates rock solid hardware most of the time and I'm happy for the MBP to fill in for my first gen Macbook some time next week.
 
I agree with some of these comments. I use my optical drive once a month at the most. That being said I would need the safety net of having an external one or wireless drive capabilty. I would be happy to pay under $2000 for a 13" with the following

-express card slot (only because new external graphics cards are slowly coming)

-At least 3 usb ports (I could care less about speed until 3.0 becomes the budget standard)

-dual hard drives

- full hd resolotuon

-mid range graphics card (somthing that could run far cry 2 decently)

-i3 of course

-matte screen, larger with no bezel.

basically my dream laptop right there.
 
So, not even a centimeter taller at parts and literally poops all over Apple's comparable machine. Nice going Apple.

I swear, it's kind of amazing to me people still buy this stuff. Underpowered, and less capable. I just don't get it. Oh well, guess I will keep making software for iPad/iPhone as long as people are buying the stuff. Still can't say I understand it.

I don't like Steeves obsession to make everything thin, thinner and even thinner. Non replaceable batteries, connectors that require adapters (mini-vga, mini-dvi, mini-dp), ports that are missing completely (express card) and now "last gen" tech because of too little space.

Another question: Where is built-in 3G? Every other notebook manufactor offers that at least as on option. Yes, I do use that. Don't want external devices for that any more and software for that should be part of the OS (many 3G USB sticks have no Mac software or it is very bad).

Christian
 
Poor trade-off. Smaller battery? Big deal. Most people don't need a notebook that lasts 10 hours off a single charge. 4-5 hours of battery life was considered good until the last year and a half, and I can think of almost no instances where > 5 hours of battery life would actually be useful to me. I'd rather have a decent cpu. Just my opinion of course, but this seems like the route apple should take for the macbook, not the pro.

I think you were not here when the MacBook Pro with 7 hour but non-removable battery was introduced. There were lots and lots of people posting that they even carried an extra battery to get ten hours battery life, and that the 7 hours in the MacBook Pro was nowhere near enough.
 
I think you were not here when the MacBook Pro with 7 hour but non-removable battery was introduced. There were lots and lots of people posting that they even carried an extra battery to get ten hours battery life, and that the 7 hours in the MacBook Pro was nowhere near enough.

What is the problem? Give us a 5 hr. battery that can be replaced(!) and a discrete GPU.

Christian
 
Apple could easily put dedicated Gfx in the Macbook Pro 13" if they removed the optical drive.

Mac OSX could be put on a locked part of the HD.

And if people need optical drive hey there like 40 quid

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Infact I dont know why apple dont offer a third model in the 13" Pro range with this.
 
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