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Another Week, Another Mac OS X 10.6.3 (10D561) Seed For Developers

cvaldes said:
It's likely that the iPhone software engineers have been working heavily on bringing up the iPad, as well as creating the iPhone OS 3.2 SDK, and thus not able to work on adding new functionality to other devices running iPhone OS 3 (i.e., iPhones and iPod touches).

There is evidence that Apple really doesn't have the necessary resources to keep up with their intended software & hardware release schedules, thus things slip. Steve himself has admitted to it once or twice.

For a company of its size (in terms of revenue, etc.), Apple is actually lightly staffed. They would really execute more comfortably if they hired some more engineers. They have enough cash, they can afford to hire a few more folks.
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Even with hiring new people will take months to get them comfortable with the software and sometime it can slow down the development process overall. Not every programmers can start coding immediately. I do believe Apple has already posted several job postings for iPad/iPhone divisions as indicated by a few news posting about it over the last few weeks.

I am not sure why Apple hasn't expanded their resources, it sound like Apple prefers a small team of excellent engineers instead of a large team of good engineers. Not to mention that I don't think Apple has a lot of experience in dealing with multiple different divisions at same time, it is very hard to manage a company with diverse products. Even larger companies like MS have a history of management issues.
 
cvaldes said:
It's likely that the iPhone software engineers have been working heavily on bringing up the iPad, as well as creating the iPhone OS 3.2 SDK, and thus not able to work on adding new functionality to other devices running iPhone OS 3 (i.e., iPhones and iPod touches).

There is evidence that Apple really doesn't have the necessary resources to keep up with their intended software & hardware release schedules, thus things slip. Steve himself has admitted to it once or twice.

For a company of its size (in terms of revenue, etc.), Apple is actually lightly staffed. They would really execute more comfortably if they hired some more engineers. They have enough cash, they can afford to hire a few more folks.
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But then you run into the Mythical Man month. Look how Microsoft has done with its masses and masses of staff. It took 5-6 years from XP to Vista and even then Vista was a total disaster. And even now benchmarks on Windows 7 for office related tasks,video is slower than XP.
 
MikhailT said:
I also think Apple learned their lesson from releasing multiple software updates at same time (iPhoneOS 2.0, MobileMe, OS X update from two years ago was a mess) and probably will release those kind of updates at different time.
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Correct.

It would make the most sense if they released OS X 10.6.3 first.

The release of the iPad would be preceded by a new version of iTunes; ideally, the iPad would also follow the release of the finalized version of the iPhone OS 3.2 SDK for iPad (so developers can tweak their apps and submit to the App Store for approval and that the App Store has many iPad-optimized apps ready to go when the hardware ships).

I don't think the release of new Mac hardware is really contingent on anything in the iPhone OS/iPad release. Apple can ship new Mac hardware when they please, but would probably stagger the release date to maximize media coverage and public mindshare.
 
MikhailT said:
Even with hiring new people will take months to get them comfortable with the software and sometime it can slow down the development process overall. Not every programmers can start coding immediately. I do believe Apple has already posted several job postings for iPad/iPhone divisions as indicated by a few news posting about it over the last few weeks.

I am not sure why Apple hasn't expanded their resources, it sound like Apple prefers a small team of excellent engineers instead of a large team of good engineers. Not to mention that I don't think Apple has a lot of experience in dealing with multiple different divisions at same time, it is very hard to manage a company with diverse products. Even larger companies like MS have a history of management issues.
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True, but I'm not proposing Apple to open the floodgates, issue several thousand job requisitions all at once and hire random schmucks walking down De Anza Boulevard.

I agree that it's best for Apple to staff their teams with top-quality, experienced engineers with relevant experience. With the high unemployment in the Valley, Apple has a large pool of highly-qualified candidates from which to choose. A planned increase in engineering talent would be the best approach, maybe adding a thousand people over the next two years. Heck, they might already have many of those people on payroll in the form of independent contractors.

Of course, not everyone wants to work at Apple. They need to find the people who really want to be there as well. There's the company culture thing that I'm sure Apple staffers are well aware of.

Looking at Apple's products, software and services, they have maintained a high standard and I personally don't want that quality level erode, either from a customer standpoint or as an AAPL shareholder.

I'm just saying that with >$30B in cash, they could hire a few more people. As an AAPL shareholder, I would be okay with that. :)
 
We should all realize by now that Apple is slowing their development cycle on OSX. Expect new products and new morphs of OSX (the Snow Leopard foundations at least) to appear in new form factors.

I've heard of an iPhone-esque OS maybe coming to a MacBook form factor. In the past we've heard rumors of Apple working with VW.

Just don't hold out that 10.7 is coming out next year. :eek: More likely 2012 at the earliest. You heard it here first. :)
 
AidenShaw said:
Beg to differ - base 10 is a big step forward. Now to get Microsoft
on the same page....
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Base 10 is going to require everyone to change. I still have Finder reporting one thing and Apple's own first party applications still reporting another. That's not a good start and you're not even going online yet.
 
BTW said:
We should all realize by now that Apple is slowing their development cycle on OSX. Expect new products and new morphs of OSX (the Snow Leopard foundations at least) to appear in new form factors.

I've heard of an iPhone-esque OS maybe coming to a MacBook form factor. In the past we've heard rumors of Apple working with VW.

Just don't hold out that 10.7 is coming out next year. :eek: More likely 2012 at the earliest. You heard it here first. :)
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Apple has already warned us of the slowed development cycle to 18-24 months from 12 months cycle. I do think 10.7 will be announced at this WWDC with demo/dev release at WWDC 2011. I don't think it'll be longer than that because i doubt it'll contain more under the hood changes but more of a front end feature packed release like GUI changes and so on. One of those "300+ features" stuff.
 
Eidorian said:
Base 10 is going to require everyone to change.
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Good - "everyone" is wrong, and needs to change. ;)

Some displays (mostly on Linux) give the option of binary
(and the labels are "TiB"/"GiB"/"MiB"/"KiB") and decimal
("TB"/"GB"/"MB"/"KB") when base 10 is chosen.

Have the option for base 2, but don't show it incorrectly as
"MB" or "GB" when it is "MiB" or "GiB". Match the labels to
the base.
 
AidenShaw said:
Good - "everyone" is wrong, and needs to change. ;)

Some displays (mostly on Linux) give the option of binary
(and the labels are "TiB"/"GiB"/"MiB"/"KiB") and decimal
("TB"/"GB"/"MB"/"KB") when base 10 is chosen.

Have the option for base 2, but don't show it incorrectly as
"MB" or "GB" when it is "MiB" or "GiB". Match the labels to
the base.
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CLI switches tread on thin ice for the mundanes.

I understand what you're trying to say but I can't see it happening any time soon. It appears to be easier to point people to the page on Base 10 vs. Base 2.
 
Has there been any hints in these seeds about new mbp model numbers? :eek:
I don't recall reading anything but wanted to make sure.
 
Full of Win said:
Aren't the X.3 and X.6 releases the "big" ones?
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To date, the most significant OS X releases were the first two (10.0 and 10.1), the one that supported the release of Intel Macs (whatever that was), and the one that followed the original iPhone (since iPhone OS was based on that version of OS X).
 
2contagious said:
The more I think about it, a parallel release of several things seems to make more and more sense:

- iPad (wifi version) released in March
- Macbook Pro's could be updated at the same time
- At the same time, iTunes could be updated (to support the iPad) and 10.6.3 could be released (to support the new MBPs).
(The MBPs would have 10.6.3 and the new iTunes version pre-installed.)
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The last time they tried something like this it ended up in the Mobile Me fiasco..
 
markm49uk said:
Er no it's not - if anyone should have changed then it's the drive manufacturers to bring them into line.

So annoying.
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Can everybody just stop making these stupid expressions! Any manufacturer or retailer in any country is LEGALLY forced to use SI abbreviations correctly! You just aren't allowed to use SI abbreviations for a different meaning than is defined by the SI Standards. These SI Standards where defined long before the USA exists and also long before computers exists.

Also in many countries mainly in Europe, manufacturers and retailers may only advertise products using SI standards. This means that retailers cannot advertise their products with GiB since GiB is not an SI standard.

Example: you may not sell 400 grams of sugar and say it's a pound. And in Europe you may not even advertise like this: 1 pound of sugar for only 50 cents. You must say 500 grams of sugar for 50 cents, or 0.5 kg for 50 cents.
 
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