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Do you like the gold, rose gold, silver, space grey etc? -- that is a personal opinion. This isn't personal opinion. This is a critique of the device's exterior side by side, evaluating each aspect. When I see something wrong, I speak up, I don't say Apple got it right when it hasn't.

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"sound technological reasons for both the antenna bands and the camera hump."
Okay.
Hump, fits the camera (apparently). Can't shave off a mm inside the camera assembly? Can't increase the case width by a mm and fit extra battery?
Metal case needs antenna cut outs (apparently). Can't use a better more suitable material for the case? Why not use wood, with nails or a staple gun to hold it all together?
Apple got it 6/6s and by the looks of it 7 completely WRONG in terms of design.
Why on earth do people defend Apple when they get it wrong? The only way to get things back on track is to acknowledge the problem not say all is okay. People need to embrace high standards. Apple charges for high standards, it needs to deliver.
Well there you go. That certainly puts an end to all discussion and other opinions. Without you, how could the rest of us decide on good and bad design. You heard it here folks all other opinions matter not. In fact this guy has no opinion, he is speaking Devine truth, the phone God is talking to him.

Right, I'd tell you where you can stuff your design opinions but forum decorum won't allow it. Hey that's pretty catchy "forum decorum". :cool:
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"Most people" is fairly general.
I'm happy to compliment other aspects of the device, but the bands and the protruding camera are rubbish.
Yes, it's my personal obsession to get the design back to being pure.

[doublepost=1470942138][/doublepost]On a side note, I've been running a poll on iPhone design for several months, and there's a strong amount of support of 4/4s/5/5s/SE design. It seems many people here do not like 6/6s. Exactly what they don't like about it isn't entirely clear, but it might just be those awful antenna lines that repels users.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/future-apple-design-language.1963417/
Well you are dead wrong. In my opinion, no strike that, in the revealed truth of phone design I declare the design is just fine. My 6s Plus is best phone I have had. And since my truth supersedes your's I get the final say. So there! And keep your obsessions to yourself, there could be young impressionable mind on here.
 
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People always talk about the protruding camera on the 6s/6s plus. Well, I also have a Note 5, and it's camera
is also protruding, but no one ever talks about that.
 
Is there really not a better way to allow for the signal to escape out of the phone? I'm sure this has been discussed a lot, but the bands are terrible looking. I'm actually a bit surprised that they've been present for so many iterations of the iphone.

Is there a reason why the bands have to be a different color than the rest of the case? If not, can we all agree that other manufacturers have presented the bands in a much more elegant fashion, such as HTC?

I never understood the angst over the bands. They're fine with the 6/6S, and they're fine with the supposed pics of the 7 we've seen.
 
HTC has the bands and they look far better than the iphones. Care to speak to that?

No one knows for sure exactly except the engineers. If you compare HTC One and the iPhone 6....where is the plastic? What's the purpose?

Where's the plastic?
The HTC One has bands, but it also has plastic on the edge perimeter of the phone. The iPhone 6 has plastic bands, but the sides are nearly all metal. Later models of HTC One replaces the speaker grill with a plastic one. What looks better? IMO, the iPhone 6 looks better overall.

What's the purpose?
Obviously for cellular signal, but in Apple's case, I bet they wanted the NFC to be rock solid for Apple Pay. Remember that Apple invested heavily in Apple Pay. This may be the reason for half the bands being at the top rather than going with a perimeter like HTC.

I would agree that Apple should color match the bands on the gold, silver, and rose gold models. I think the space gray has the closest match. Even if Apple color matched the plastic, it's still not going to match perfectly because plastic reflects light differently than aluminum.
 
People always talk about the protruding camera on the 6s/6s plus. Well, I also have a Note 5, and it's camera
is also protruding, but no one ever talks about that.
Interesting is'nt that. Ask yourself, perhaps is there an agenda there. I can immediately think of two possible reasons. There mat be more.

First comes to mind that there is a concerted effort to disparage the iPhone for some reason. Do some have a mission to make I'll of Apple for some reason? Shills, or some with a vendetta.

Second possibility is so much more is expected from Apple. When other manufacturers make the same design decisions, most likely for the same reasons. Like the better camera happens to be thicker than the desired thickness of the phone.

There could be others reasons, but it does seem strange that the wringing of hands over the protruding camera seems to be directed more so at Apple.
 
Well there you go. That certainly puts an end to all discussion and other opinions. Without you, how could the rest of us decide on good and bad design. You heard it here folks all other opinions matter not. In fact this guy has no opinion, he is speaking Devine truth, the phone God is talking to him.

Right, I'd tell you where you can stuff your design opinions but forum decorum won't allow it. Hey that's pretty catchy "forum decorum". :cool:
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Well you are dead wrong. In my opinion, no strike that, in the revealed truth of phone design I declare the design is just fine. My 6s Plus is best phone I have had. And since my truth supersedes your's I get the final say. So there! And keep your obsessions to yourself, there could be young impressionable mind on here.
I'm just pointing to a poll that shows that iPhone 6/6s is one of the least popular designs. Your opinion is relevant but your single opinion can't be extrapolated to everyone, the poll, while not scientific, suggests different feelings. When you have antenna bands that aren't part of the design and instead is a compromise in the design work we end up with rubbish poor design work. Some goes for the protruding camera. It looks like the iPhone 6/6s was welded together from three separate pieces. Disgraceful. I'm aiming for perfection because that is what the Apple brand is about. Anything less needs to be called out for what it is-- absolute rubbish design work.
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Interesting is'nt that. Ask yourself, perhaps is there an agenda there. I can immediately think of two possible reasons. There mat be more.

First comes to mind that there is a concerted effort to disparage the iPhone for some reason. Do some have a mission to make I'll of Apple for some reason? Shills, or some with a vendetta.

Second possibility is so much more is expected from Apple. When other manufacturers make the same design decisions, most likely for the same reasons. Like the better camera happens to be thicker than the desired thickness of the phone.

There could be others reasons, but it does seem strange that the wringing of hands over the protruding camera seems to be directed more so at Apple.
No one talks about the Note 5 protruding camera because that's what everyone expects of the Note 5, absolutely compromised rubbish design work.

There is no agenda here. You're at the MacRumors forum because people here love most of what Apple does. And when they see Apple getting off track and looking like their lesser competitors, people here complain with good reason.

Nobody here cares what rubbish other manufacturers bring out, what people here do care about is what Apple brings out, and if it verges on the lower standards of competitors, people here will scream loudly to get Apple back on track.
 
I'm just pointing to a poll that shows that iPhone 6/6s is one of the least popular designs. Your opinion is relevant but your single opinion can't be extrapolated to everyone, the poll, while not scientific, suggests different feelings. When you have antenna bands that aren't part of the design and instead is a compromise in the design work we end up with rubbish poor design work. Some goes for the protruding camera. It looks like the iPhone 6/6s was welded together from three separate pieces. Disgraceful. I'm aiming for perfection because that is what the Apple brand is about. Anything less needs to be called out for what it is-- absolute rubbish design work.
Your opinion, and that's all it is, while valid for you, and the few that sided with you in this unscientific poll are far out weighed by the 10s of millions who like the design and bought the phone. Your vendetta is getting a bit old, long in the tooth, if you will. And repeating the same agenda over and over does not make it more valid.

Some people, only a very few, based on the sales numbers agree with you, I submit most do not, or else the iPhone 6 and 6s series would have been a dismal failure sales wise. This is simply not the case. The vast majority of phones also have a protruding camera. So the design seems to be of universal appeal. Thinner phone with a better camera that requires the lenses and thickness to produce a better picture. For some strange reason it appears that no manufacturer believes that sales would be higher with a phone as thick as the camera. Sort of telling isn't it.

As for the antenna bands, this is so inconsequential that it hardly seems worth commenting on. But since it is your passion I will. Again a vocal few seem to make this issue their life's work. Firstly I and I suspect most people buy a phone to look at the screen, not the back. Again, sales do not reflect upon any great backlash regarding these lines. I much prefer good radio reception over some arbitrary like or dislike you may have. I don't think the line design looks bad. Regardless I use a leather case because I like the feel and that pretty much covers those lines and oh the camera doesn't protrude either with the case.

Some people hate Picasso paintings, does that therefore equate that Picasso did not produce an artful design? Of course not, it's an opinion. Your blanket indictments go way overboard and definitely do not reflect the majority thinking, nor I suspect even a significant minority. Simply a small number that like to be overly vocal in their opinion.
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I'm just pointing to a poll that shows that iPhone 6/6s is one of the least popular designs. Your opinion is relevant but your single opinion can't be extrapolated to everyone, the poll, while not scientific, suggests different feelings. When you have antenna bands that aren't part of the design and instead is a compromise in the design work we end up with rubbish poor design work. Some goes for the protruding camera. It looks like the iPhone 6/6s was welded together from three separate pieces. Disgraceful. I'm aiming for perfection because that is what the Apple brand is about. Anything less needs to be called out for what it is-- absolute rubbish design work.
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No one talks about the Note 5 protruding camera because that's what everyone expects of the Note 5, absolutely compromised rubbish design work.

There is no agenda here. You're at the MacRumors forum because people here love most of what Apple does. And when they see Apple getting off track and looking like their lesser competitors, people here complain with good reason.

Nobody here cares what rubbish other manufacturers bring out, what people here do care about is what Apple brings out, and if it verges on the lower standards of competitors, people here will scream loudly to get Apple back on track.
If you think Apple gives a rats ass what limited few people on here rant about, well let me put it to you this way. I have a great deal on a bridge I can sell you cheap.

Apple has repeatedly stated in interviews that they categorically do NOT base their designs on consumer reviews, focus groups or any other such polling. Rather then swing back and forth like some pendulum of public opinion, they boldly design technology for functional use. Does everyone always like what they produce, of course not. To call it rubbish is rediculous in the extreme.

Again, this philosophy seems to have worked for Apple so far, as the sales and profits seem to indicate. Like it or not, this is how Apple operates. Did they come out with a poll to see how many consumers want the 3.5 mm analog jack removed? No

Your opinions are like farts in the wind. So diluted that they are not even apparent. And to top it off Apple isn't even sniffing the wind. But go ahead and continue with your crusade. The Don Quixte of antenna lines. You have a few Sancho Panzas in the crowd.
 
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Your opinion, and that's all it is, while valid for you, and the few that sided with you in this unscientific poll are far out weighed by the 10s of millions who like the design and bought the phone. Your vendetta is getting a bit old, long in the tooth, if you will. And repeating the same agenda over and over does not make it more valid.

Some people, only a very few, based on the sales numbers agree with you, I submit most do not, or else the iPhone 6 and 6s series would have been a dismal failure sales wise. This is simply not the case. The vast majority of phones also have a protruding camera. So the design seems to be of universal appeal. Thinner phone with a better camera that requires the lenses and thickness to produce a better picture. For some strange reason it appears that no manufacturer believes that sales would be higher with a phone as thick as the camera. Sort of telling isn't it.

As for the antenna bands, this is so inconsequential that it hardly seems worth commenting on. But since it is your passion I will. Again a vocal few seem to make this issue their life's work. Firstly I and I suspect most people buy a phone to look at the screen, not the back. Again, sales do not reflect upon any great backlash regarding these lines. I much prefer good radio reception over some arbitrary like or dislike you may have. I don't think the line design looks bad. Regardless I use a leather case because I like the feel and that pretty much covers those lines and oh the camera doesn't protrude either with the case.

Some people hate Picasso paintings, does that therefore equate that Picasso did not produce an artful design? Of course not, it's an opinion. Your blanket indictments go way overboard and definitely do not reflect the majority thinking, nor I suspect even a significant minority. Simply a small number that like to be overly vocal in their opinion.
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If you think Apple gives a rats ass what limited few people on here rant about, well let me put it to you this way. I have a great deal on a bridge I can sell you cheap.

Apple has repeatedly stated in interviews that they categorically do NOT base their designs on consumer reviews, focus groups or any other such polling. Rather then swing back and forth like some pendulum of public opinion, they boldly design technology for functional use. Does everyone always like what they produce, of course not. To call it rubbish is rediculous in the extreme.

Again, this philosophy seems to have worked for Apple so far, as the sales and profits seem to indicate. Like it or not, this is how Apple operates. Did they come out with a poll to see how many consumers want the 3.5 mm analog jack removed? No

Your opinions are like farts in the wind. So diluted that they are not even apparent. And to top it off Apple isn't even sniffing the wind. But go ahead and continue with your crusade. The Don Quixte of antenna lines. You have a few sancho Panzas in the crowd.
Great argument based on opening with "agenda" and "vendetta" and then some irrelevant issues not backed up with evidence. The fact that the antenna lines don't even go close to match the body color is a disgrace. I apologize for having high design standards. I'm just disappointed you can not call out Apple when they get it wrong as well.
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Great argument based on opening with "agenda" and "vendetta" and then some irrelevant issues not backed up with evidence. The fact that the antenna lines don't even go close to match the body color is a disgrace. I apologize for having high design standards. I'm just disappointed you can not call out Apple when they get it wrong as well.
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What part don't you get. I don't think Apple got it wrong. Your opinion and mine differ.

My point is I am willing to admit it is my opinion. You on other hand think only you are right.

That's all this really boils down to.
 
What part don't you get. I don't think Apple got it wrong. Your opinion and mine differ.

My point is I am willing to admit it is my opinion. You on other hand think only you are right.

That's all this really boils down to.
Apple got it wrong. Obvious and unexplained antenna lines, in mismatched colors, have never formed part of the design of any portable Apple products until iPhone 6/6s. They went backwards in time and released a lesser product. I'm just being real about this. If Apple release an iPhone 7 or 8 with less obvious or no antenna lines, then it will acknowledge the 6/6s was a mistake in terms of design. Good day.
 
Apple got it wrong. Obvious and unexplained antenna lines, in mismatched colors, have never formed part of the design of any portable Apple products until iPhone 6/6s. They went backwards in time and released a lesser product. I'm just being real about this. If Apple release an iPhone 7 or 8 with less obvious or no antenna lines, then it will acknowledge the 6/6s was a mistake in terms of design. Good day.
Yup, YOU just can't seem to understand OPINION.

The location and color of the antenna lines was a design choice. It was a look they sought out, akin to pin striping. We understand YOU don't like it. LIFE GOES ON.
 
imo the antenna lines are fine expect for the gold models. i dont get why apple made them white, it sticks out a lot.
As for the silver/space it blends in much better.
 
No, Apple can correct their rubbish mistake and get back to pure design. "get a damn Android phone and stop whining" is just a way for you to dismiss my critique without adding any meaningful discussion.
Your post was far less meaningful. Your ranting about how awful Apple is just idiotic. Hey. Get a different phone if you hate it so much.
 
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You offer nothing to this conversation except attacks and suggestions to "go elsewhere". My critique is entirely valid. This isn't trivial. If things start sliding here, then eventually Apple becomes just another Android device.

Protruding camera, antenna bands, the unresolved Apple design introduced with the iPhone 6/6s that looks as if the phone has been repaired with a welder or stuck back together with tape or glue. Rubbish, Apple. Shame on Apple for bringing an unresolved design into the world.

I need not say anymore.


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Good!!! I for one am tired of your constant whining about iPhone. Again get a DIFFERENT phone if you despise it so much..
 
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