Any 12.9 owners purchase the new one?

[borgusio]

This is exactly what I plan to do. I already have the 12.9 and the 9.7 arrives today . I think they will complement each other very well with the 9.7 being my main device for commuting, meeting notes, quick reply to emails and refereeing PDFs material. When I require a bigger screen or split mode then the 12.9 will come into play and will be my "laptop device". For everything else that IOS can't do then I would use my iMac when i am at home.

To be honest I do not understand your setup. I have similar needs if I understand yours, but my setup will be:
- IPad 9,7" (to consume media and produce stuff on the go)
- MacBook (on the go, just when needed)
- Docking station including larger monitor, hard drives, connections, etc (for more powerfull stuff at home)

At the moment I still have a laptop plus a Mac mini, but I plan to merge them as soon as apple will merge USB c with thundebolt as I plan to purchase an external graphic card.

Not quite sure why would I need a 12.9 iPad?

By the way, a mouse would be very appreciated on the iPad because with some clients I need to use Citrix on the go and it is quite painful without a mouse and I have to switch to the laptop.

 

[TrueBlou]

Most the times when I hear someone saying negative things about the large iPad Pro it's because of its size. If half a pound is really that much to you then I guess you definitely should be sticking with a smaller iPad. For those of us who don't have issues lifting measly amount of weight such as this then the larger iPad Pro offers many more benefits. I for one hardly ever veer away from split screen use. That would be useless to me on the smaller device.

I always find the portability "issues" chucklesome, but I think it's because we're spoiled, or lucky, that our systems are so thin and light these days.

I used to lug around a 17" Alienware laptop back when I was a Windows user. It weighed a paltry 5.8Kg, to put that in perspective that's more than a 21" iMac weighs
So I appreciate how small and light even the 12.9" Pro is.

 

[AlexJoda]

By the way, a mouse would be very appreciated on the iPad because with some clients I need to use Citrix on the go and it is quite painful without a mouse and I have to switch to the laptop.

You know that Citrix is offering a mouse (X1 mouse) with the Citrix receiver for IOS? It works very well....

 

[borgusio]

You know that Citrix is offering a mouse (X1 mouse) with the Citrix receiver for IOS? It works very well....

Yupp - thanks - I discovered it just one week ago and I am considering to buy it. However it is pretty big and I have a much nicer mouse that I use with my mac as well and would prefer to use.
Otherwise I will have to carry with me two mouse devices which is not ideal to be honest.

 

[AlexJoda]

Yupp - thanks - I discovered it just one week ago and I am considering to buy it. However it is pretty big and I have a much nicer mouse that I use with my mac as well and would prefer to use.
Otherwise I will have to carry with me two mouse devices which is not ideal to be honest.

It´s the only mouse that works...The design might be not so nice as the Apple mouse, but the X1 is not big! It is a portable mouse for travel and smaller than desktop mice....

 

[gameboy213]

I'd say the 9.7 can do things the 12.9 can't do. And that gives it an advantage. In our world we all have Smartphones and they are great at being a smart phone. We have Laptops and many Laptops are great. Now a 12.9 iPad is neither a Laptop or a very good tablet because it's too large to succeed as a tablet. It fails at both categories. If I want or need a Laptop that's what I need If I want or need a Tablet that's what I need there's no in between for a device which lacks capability. My Laptop has all the capabilities I need and more. My 9.7 inch IPad Pro has all the capabilities and more that I and many people need in a Tablet.

I could easily carry my Laptop and iPad Pro 9.7 because they offer complimentary capabilities and features they are greater than the sum of their parts. I would never carry a 12.9 Pro because it's as heavy as some Laptops and lacks many features of carrying something so large and expensive.

I have to agree and disagree.. Sure they are different... But they are better in different ways as well. Some people, like me, are able to use the 12.9 iPad as a laptop replacement and the 9.7 Air I had wasn't the device that allowed me to do that. Size is the main difference. Speed helps to, but that is negliganble really. But size. 12.9 iPad allows me to remove a MacBook Air and an iPad Air from my bag and just put one device in. 12.9. That's just me.

 

[ZBoater]

I don't get how an extra 3 inches makes a tablet more of a laptop replacement.

 

[macguy360]

If so, what do you think?
I've been watching the forum but haven't seen much about this (other than the thread about whether one would sell the 12.9, but that isn't really what I am asking because I am not selling my 12.9)

The 12.9" iPad Pro is the only real Pro device out of the two. Considering Bluetooth keyboards have been around forever now, the 9.7" iPad Pro is basically just an Air 3. It doesn't even have 4gb of ram.

I've been using the 12.9" Pro for a few months now and I can honestly say it is the first iPad I have had that I have had that I use regularly. Oh and for someone who exercises daily, the extra half a pound isn't even a consideration lol. For those of you complaining about weight, consider taking the stairs next time your at a multistory building or parking in the back of the parking lot next time you're at Walmart lol.

1. Letterbox movies are finally a reasonable size. On the 9.7" iPad, letterbox movies would eliminate about half the screen giving you a visible movie that is really about 5".

2. The keyboard is spacious and comparable to full size keyboards. On the 9.7" the keyboard is similar to that of a netbook, no thanks I'll pass.

3. The 12.9" is built like a tank with no vibration issues. I have already heard that some people are experiencing sound vibration issues on the 9.7". Maybe it is built with cost savings like the iPhone SE?

4. The screen size is comparable to a laptop that it would replace in working environments. A 9.7" screen size is again only comparable to a netbook and who gets real work done on a netbook?

 

[Wackery]

I don't get how an extra 3 inches makes a tablet more of a laptop replacement.

You can do a lot with 3 inches...

 

[macguy360]

I don't get how an extra 3 inches makes a tablet more of a laptop replacement.

That extra 3 inches puts it into laptop territory while 9.7" is netbook territory. Do you understand the difference between a netbook and a laptop?

 

[ZBoater]

That extra 3 inches puts it into laptop territory while 9.7" is netbook territory. Do you understand the difference between a netbook and a laptop?

I do. Do you?

What exactly can I not do with those 3 less inches?
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You can do a lot with 3 inches...

I can do everything with those 9.7" that I can with the 12.9". Yes, the bigger screen is nicer, but there is NO FUNCTION that will not work on the 9.7". Split screen, app multi tasking, EVERY FUNCTION works exactly the same.

 

[macguy360]

I do. Do you?

What exactly can I not do with those 3 less inches?

First off Zboater, your profile image makes it impossible to take you seriously about anything.

Secondly, I applaud your percerverance of using a smaller screen with a less spaced keyboard. Good for you (golf clap).

I know that some people have a hard time lifting an extra few ounces of a device and so that is why Apple made these smaller devices. They even called them "Pro" to make you feel good! When your hunched over on a public bench with your knees pushed together because the iPad could fall with any sort of leg gap, other people will walk by and go "I bet that person is working on very important things!"

 

[touchstoned]

I'm considering selling my Air 2 and getting an iPP 9.7 for work (write down things by hand often), but it doesn't integrate with Microsoft Excel AFAIK.... need to do more research.

 

[ZBoater]

...so that is why Apple made these smaller devices...

Actually, you have it backwards, as these "smaller" devices came BEFORE the big one.

I am not disputing the benefit of a larger display. But to imply that the extra three inches somehow endows it with greater capabilities or powers that the "smaller" devices don't have is ludicrous.

And, as for my avatar...

 

[AlexJoda]

I don't get how an extra 3 inches makes a tablet more of a laptop replacement.

For better understanding what these "3 inches" mean one has to realize that the width of 9.7" iPad has the the same pixels and length than the height of the 12.9" iPP. So you can put two 9.7" iPads next to each other in portrait mode (with some small overlapping) to get the screen size of the 12.9" iPP. So it nearly doubles the size of the screen.....

 

[ZBoater]

For better understanding what these "3 inches" mean one has to realize that the width of 9.7" iPad has the the same pixels and length than the height of the 12.9" iPP. So you can put two 9.7" iPads next to each other in portrait mode (with some small overlapping) to get the screen size of the 12.9" iPP....

So? You still have not answered the key question. What can I do in that extra space I can't do in the smaller device?

 

[macguy360]

Actually, you have it backwards, as these "smaller" devices came BEFORE the big one.

I am not disputing the benefit of a larger display. But to imply that the extra three inches somehow endows it with greater capabilities or powers that the "smaller" devices don't have is ludicrous.

And, as for my avatar...

If you don't understand the benefit of the 13" screen over the 9.7" screen and why 13" is the universal standard when it comes to laptop screens, then your best bet is to go do some research online.

However, some people find a mini to be just fine, some people will find the 9.7" to be just fine and some people will prefer the 13".

The more likely scenario given that you either already own both or have sold your larger pro is that you are just trolling, which appears to be a regular thing for you so again (golf clap).

 

[ZBoater]

If you don't understand the benefit of the 13" screen over the 9.7" screen and why 13" is the universal standard when it comes to laptop screens, then your best bet is to go do some research online.

However, some people find a mini to be just fine, some people will find the 9.7" to be just fine and some people will prefer the 13".

The more likely scenario given that you either already own both or have sold your larger pro is that you are just trolling, which appears to be a regular thing for you so again (golf clap).

Small minds resort to name calling when lacking an argument. That's great.

I own all three sizes. And this mystical benefit you are referring to? You still ignore the question. Universal standard? LOL. Yeah, right.

I'd rather use a bigger screen sometimes, but I can use Word on my Mini just fine. Fact is aside from the pencil stuff, there is nothing I can't do in all three sizes. All this huffing and puffing about how a bigger iPad is somehow a "laptop" replacement when a smaller one isn't is just bogus. Whatever makes the iPad a laptop replacement (or not) applies to all three sizes. You are right, it is a matter of preference, but don't make out the 12.9" as some sort of specially endowed size that does things the other two don't.

Because it isn't.

 

[macguy360]

Small minds resort to name calling when lacking an argument. That's great.

I own all three sizes. And this mystical benefit you are referring to? You still ignore the question. Universal standard? LOL. Yeah, right.

I'd rather use a bigger screen sometimes, but I can use Word on my Mini just fine. Fact is aside from the pencil stuff, there is nothing I can't do in all three sizes. All this huffing and puffing about how a bigger iPad is somehow a "laptop" replacement when a smaller one isn't is just bogus. Whatever makes the iPad a laptop replacement (or not) applies to all three sizes. You are right, it is a matter of preference, but don't make out the 12.9" as some sort of specially endowed size that does things the other two don't.

Because it isn't.

I never said "mystical benefit." I think you were actually the first person here on this forum to use that term. Sounds like you are getting defensive about the size difference of the smaller iPads you own.

Here's something for you to consider. If 9.7" is a good laptop size as you mention, then why doesn't Apple make a 9.7" screen MacBook or MacBook Air? Why is the smallest screen they make 11" for the air and 12" for the standard MacBook. What does Apple know that you don't?

What's so mystical about and special about 9.7" that Apple doesn't use it for a laptop screen size? Could it be because it puts it in netbook category and Apple doesn't make netbooks? Go on ahead feeling good and "Pro" with the 9.7" hehe (golf clap).

 

[AlexJoda]

So? You still have not answered the key question. What can I do in that extra space I can't do in the smaller device?

Some examples that are important to me:

* Try the split screen multitasking with the 9.7 and 12.9. I never do this with the 9.7 but often with the 12.9
* Several web based monitoring and administrative sites have problems with the smaller published resolution of 1024*768 for web pages with the 9.7 iPad (even if the have retina displays)
* I am using my 12.9 iPP for remote work with Windows VMs. With the 12.9 I can use a simulated resolution of 1200*1600 pixels instead of 800*1200 with the 9.7. That makes a huge difference for that task.....

 

[ZBoater]

Yet you still can't mention ONE THING I can't do on my 9.7" that I can on my 12.9".

Interesting.
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Some examples that are important to me:

* Try the split screen multitasking with the 9.7 and 12.9. I never do this with the 9.7 but often with the 12.9
* Several web based monitoring and administrative sites have problems with the smaller published resolution of 1024*768 for web pages with the 9.7 iPad (even if the have retina displays)
* I am using my 12.9 iPP for remote work with Windows VMs. With the 12.9 I can use a simulated resolution of 1200*1600 pixels instead of 800*1200 with the 9.7. That makes a huge difference for that task.....

These are all preferences. If you don't WANT to do them in the smaller screen, that is your CHOICE. I can still do them though.

 

[macguy360]

Yet you still can't mention ONE THING I can't do on my 9.7" that I can on my 12.9".

Interesting.
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These are all preferences. If you don't WANT to do them in the smaller screen, that is your CHOICE. I can still do them though.

Go ask Apple why they don't make a 9.7" laptop and report back your findings.

 

[AlexJoda]

Yet you still can't mention ONE THING I can't do on my 9.7" that I can on my 12.9".

Interesting.
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These are all preferences. If you don't WANT to do them in the smaller screen, that is your CHOICE. I can still do them though.

You can't make the published resolution of the browser bigger than it is....For some sites that means that they don't work at all.

 

[AttilaTheHun]

If so, what do you think?
I've been watching the forum but haven't seen much about this (other than the thread about whether one would sell the 12.9, but that isn't really what I am asking because I am not selling my 12.9)

OK so it's me I have on my living room desk my MBP 15" open all day, I like to put on the side the tablet i used to use the 9.7" air it was great for Skype and very good size to handle to move around the house and out.
then I bought the 12.9" because I like the pencil. but the 12.9" is way to big for my usesage so I thing I am going back to the small pro

 

[AlexJoda]

OK so it's me I have on my living room desk my MBP 15" open all day, I like to put on the side the tablet i used to use the 9.7" air it was great for Skype and very good size to handle to move around the house and out.
then I bought the 12.9" because I like the pencil. but the 12.9" is way to big for my usesage so I thing I am going back to the small pro

Four that reason I was getting rid of my MBP in the living room and using only the iPP 12.9 and a really bigger 27" Retina iMac in my home office.