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scem0 said:
I'm afraid that I'm not a straight person but I do get mistaken for one a lot. :cool:

I'm gonna have to say it's wishful thinking.

I know I'd take a cute, thoughtful, Mac-using guy over a "go get me a nachos and beer, and 10 sandwiches for my friends" football watchin' straight guy, even if he has to spend $30 on iPod socks. :p :rolleyes:

Or maybe I've watched too TV shows with "go get me nachos and beer, and 10 sandwiches for my friends" type guys.

*shrug*

/have I finished my calc?
//HA! NO!
///I will find a big, strong man to do it for me
////BUT I DON'T WANNA MAKE NACHOS!
/////fine, what kind of sandwich do your friends want?
 
While I respect the right of this thread to exist, I don't approve of the blatant attempt to parody and polarize a section of MR membership from either side. I suppose this thread was ineveitable with the request for a gay sub forum, but I personally feel it is in poor taste.

While I am straight, I also respect diversity and individuality. Most of us have been unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end of some type of ridicule, discrimination, and have been ostracized by certain groups... whether it is due to sexual orientation, color of the skin, ethnic origin or other reasons.

Many have been scarred in unseen ways by others "joking" about their weight, big ears, bald head, big nose, bed wetting, funny accent or whatever. How do we react? Unfortunately, many take it out on someone else.

Can't we refrain from the taunting and baiting?
It makes me sad :(

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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I think the previous gay thread was started purely out of coincident and chance but this one sounds like it is started out of frustration. is it?
 
It's only taunting if we let it become that. The idea of the thread was in good jest, it could easily get ugly fast, but I doubt it will.

I have a question for you straight folks... What attracts you to women? I find them to be very unattractive. I love the solidity and strength of a man. I think I would be happiest in the arms of a big guy, cuddling me off to a deep sleep. Getting held by a woman would be like... getting suffocated by jello :eek: :D. I find little comfort or security in a woman's embrace.

Women tend to have more gregarious personalities though, I have lots of female friends. I just can't imagine wanting to touch them :eek:. Men tend to be more insecure, but that makes the good ones all the more attractive :).

_Emerson
 
MacDawg said:
While I respect the right of this thread to exist, I don't approve of the blatant attempt to parody and polarize a section of MR membership from either side. I suppose this thread was ineveitable with the request for a gay sub forum, but I personally feel it is in poor taste.

While I am straight, I also respect diversity and individuality. Most of us have been unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end of some type of ridicule, discrimination, and have been ostracized by certain groups... whether it is due to sexual orientation, color of the skin, ethnic origin or other reasons.

Many have been scarred in unseen ways by others "joking" about their weight, big ears, bald head, big nose, bed wetting, funny accent or whatever. How do we react? Unfortunately, many take it out on someone else.

Can't we refrain from the taunting and baiting?
It makes me sad :(

Woof, Woof – Dawg
pawprint.gif

Lighten up a bit MacDawg. Only people with low self-esteem feel bad when they're being made fun of. I have had people making fun of my name and other things. I tell you what... who cares. The second I start to care is the point where I give those people power.
Anyway, I can also laugh about myself and think some things really are funny about me. I don't think the intention of this thread was to ridicule our homosexual members here but rather to have a little fun and point out the irony in the perception of what's different and what's normal.
If you really feel offended by that you might need to check your priorities or go look for someone to help you with your self-esteem. (And I don't mean to offend you with that. :) )
 
scem0 said:
It's only taunting if we let it become that. The idea of the thread was in good jest, it could easily get ugly fast, but I doubt it will.

I have a question for you straight folks... What attracts you to women? I find them to be very unattractive. I love the solidity and strength of a man. I think I would be happiest in the arms of a big guy, cuddling me off to a deep sleep. Getting held by a woman would be like... getting suffocated by jello :eek: :D. I find little comfort or security in a woman's embrace.

Women tend to have more gregarious personalities though, I have lots of female friends. I just can't imagine wanting to touch them :eek:. Men tend to be more insecure, but that makes the good ones all the more attractive :).

_Emerson

Exactly my sentiments... only the other way around. I could never see myself "cuddling" (aargh what a word in that context :p ) with another man. I can tell beauty regardless of gender and do enjoy looking at good-looking men too, but touching them... :eek: h e l l n o ! :D
I guess hetero men don't need security in an embrace... besides we're just not attracted to the manly sexual attributes. (at least I am not) I like breasts and stuff, no dangling bits. :D
 
Diatribe said:
Lighten up a bit MacDawg. Only people with low self-esteem feel bad when they're being made fun of. I have had people making fun of my name and other things. I tell you what... who cares. The second I start to care is the point where I give those people power.
Anyway, I can also laugh about myself and think some things really are funny about me. I don't think the intention of this thread was to ridicule our homosexual members here but rather to have a little fun and point out the irony in the perception of what's different and what's normal.
If you really feel offended by that you might need to check your priorities or go look for someone to help you with your self-esteem. (And I don't mean to offend you with that. :) )

While I understand your point, I've spent a lifetime working with those people with low self esteem and I value them. It's great that you feel good about yourself. Not everybody does. :eek:

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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scem0 said:
It's only taunting if we let it become that. The idea of the thread was in good jest, it could easily get ugly fast, but I doubt it will.


I hope you are right scem0
As long as the gay community is not offended and take it as light hearted, it will be fine.

EDIT: I still don't discount the damage done underneath the surface though.

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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MacDawg said:
While I respect the right of this thread to exist, I don't approve of the blatant attempt to parody and polarize a section of MR membership from either side. I suppose this thread was ineveitable with the request for a gay sub forum, but I personally feel it is in poor taste.


Well said and honestly stated... those who refuse to acknowledge this are just being wilfully obtuse as well as painfully and pathetically unfunny.
 
Blue Velvet said:
Well said and honestly stated... those who refuse to acknowledge this are just being wilfully obtuse as well as painfully and pathetically unfunny.

I guess, since this was obviously directed towards me, I am being wilfully obtuse as well as painfully and pathetically unfunny. I guess I am just a mean, sarcastic prick. ;)
 
Diatribe said:
I guess, since this was obviously directed towards me, I am being wilfully obtuse as well as painfully and pathetically unfunny. I guess I am just a mean, sarcastic prick. ;)


Only people with low self-esteem feel that generalised comments are directed solely at them. ;)
 
Private pain is a very real issue for many people... pain that they don't feel that they can share with anyone else because they get a reaction of "get over it", "suck it up", "just rub a little dirt on it", etc.

Belittling another's feelings only serves to cause further internalization. Saying "I was only kidding" or "I was just joking" rarely erases the event from a person's trauma. While one joke can be 'funny', suffering a life time of them rarely is... even if it is over something the 'joker' finds insignificant.

Defense mechanisms can range from withdrawal to the other extreme of joining in and making jokes about yourself before others get the chance. The more extreme response is to take your pain out on others by making them suffer too.

Maybe I do need to lighten up... but then again, I know too many hurting people who look fine on the outside, but suffer on the inside.

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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Blue Velvet said:
Only people with low self-esteem feel that generalised comments are directed solely at them. ;)

You got that wrong... only people with a healthy (some would say overly developed) self-esteem feel that everything is directed towards them.
Nice try though ;) :p
Edit: And I do refuse to see how this makes fun of our gay members in a bad way (which is WHY your comment was directed at me)... I'd like to hear from them though.

On a serious note... do you guys really feel that this offends our gay community here? I feel like on TV where they bleep out butt because it might offend some people...
 
Diatribe said:
Exactly my sentiments... only the other way around. I could never see myself "cuddling" (aargh what a word in that context :p ) with another man. I can tell beauty regardless of gender and do enjoy looking at good-looking men too, but touching them... :eek: h e l l n o ! :D
I guess hetero men don't need security in an embrace... besides we're just not attracted to the manly sexual attributes. (at least I am not) I like breasts and stuff, no dangling bits. :D

It only dangles until.... well, nevermind that. :D :eek: :D

I like to appreciate good looking women, too. But for me it's all above the neck. I find everything below the neck of a woman to be very scary. Especially supermodels that are superskinny. They scare me to death :eek:.

_Emerson
 
Diatribe said:
On a serious note... do you guys really feel that this offends our gay community here? I feel like on TV where they bleep out butt because it might offend some people...

It does not offend me. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I had to guess for most of the prominent and prolific posters in the 'other' thread :), I'd say that they aren't offended either.

_Emerson
 
Diatribe said:
On a serious note... do you guys really feel that this offends our gay community here? I feel like on TV where they bleep out butt because it might offend some people...

I'm not suggesting censorship, I just felt it was baiting and unnecessary, the kind of thing you would find in Jr. High. Maybe that is what it is.

I don't know that they might be offended, but I felt it was uncalled for... personal opinion.

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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scem0 said:
It only dangles until.... well, nevermind that. :D :eek: :D

I like to appreciate good looking women, too. But for me it's all above the neck. I find everything below the neck of a woman to be very scary. Especially supermodels that are superskinny. They scare me to death :eek:.

_Emerson

I appreciate everyone's views and opinions, it's just not my side of the river. We agree though that there's a difference between enjoying looks and sexual attraction... I find hetero men often exaggerate their hetero-ness in order to be clearly seen as non-homosexual. Why can't someone enjoy clothes and beauty in general without being seen as a homosexual or metrosexual for that matter? Everyone should be able to define him/herself without being forced into any category.
 
MacDawg said:
I'm not suggesting censorship, I just felt it was baiting and unnecessary, the kind of thing you would find in Jr. High. Maybe that is what it is.

I don't know that they might be offended, but I felt it was uncalled for... personal opinion.

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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Fair enough. I just thought it was rather innocent... personal opinion too though.
 
MUCKYFINGERS said:
Well you sure come off as ignorant for making a post like this. It's the accepted norm for people to assume that others are straight... There was no point in this thread other than to try to act like a smartass.

What if I made a thread saying "any white people in here?" Same idea, pretty stupid.


Would be if you were black. :D

This thread was created 'tongue-in-cheek' I'm guessing. Not the cutting edge of satire granted, but no malice intended I'd say.
I'm sure he didn't intend to insult either gay, hetro, bi or abstainers.
It's also the accepted norm to assume that there are gay members....so why start a thread? Because its one of the benefits of being part of MR.
Don't know why he's getting so much grief. At no point did he voice right-wing opinions about homosexuality. If the MODS wish to wasteland this thread, their house, their rules.
Heres an idea, if you don't agree with a threads topic do as I do and don't post in it. Now lets play nice kiddies?! :D
 
MacDawg said:
I'm not suggesting censorship, I just felt it was baiting and unnecessary, the kind of thing you would find in Jr. High. Maybe that is what it is.

I don't know that they might be offended, but I felt it was uncalled for... personal opinion.

Woof, Woof – Dawg
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Not to be outdone, there were many comments in the Gay thread that made me feel uncomfortable, hence i tuned out of it, frankly i don't want to know. Having said that i respect their rights to be who they are, i just no longer listen to it. Perhaps this thread is the straight males on this forums attempt to make themselves more comfortable with that thread, if that is the the case then so be it
 
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