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Any iPhone 5 owners upgrading to the 5S?

eoblaed said:
Note I said camera/photo system. With the 5S not only is the camera improved, but so are all the supporting elements, which yields, IMO, a greatly improved experience.

(I've posted this a couple of times in other threads):

The aperture is larger, the optics are better. The underlying hardware supporting the camera (eg. CPU, etc) is greatly improved. Those 8 megapixels? On the 5S, those 8 megapixels are 15% larger than the same 8 megapixels on the 5 which, among other things, helps yield 33% better low-light improvement over the 5 .. and the 5 already had significantly better low-light performance than the 4S.

Upgrades the 5S camera has over the camera in the 5 that I can think of off the top of my head (let alone the 4S -- the camera has improved every year):
  • Larger aperture for the lens (this lets more light in: this is A Good Thing)
  • 15% larger sensor/pixel size (this gives higher quality color, less noise in the photo, overall a measurably better quality photo -- outdoors and in)
  • 33% better low light performance
  • The dual LED system that measures the 'temperature' of the ambient light creates a flash 'color' that matches the ambient light creates greatly improved, more natural looking flash photos.
  • Because of the better hardware on the 5S, you can run the camera in 'burst mode' which will shoot 10 full sized photos per second as long as you hold the button down.
  • You can film HD video at 120 fps (4x normal) if you'd like, to get slow mo effects.
  • When you take a photo, the camera system actually takes several photos back-to-back in rapid succession, analyzes each one, and uses the 'best' one. This all happens so fast as to appear to be instant.
  • When you take a photo in a low-light situation, the camera system actually takes several photos back-to-back in rapid succession, analyzes each one, and will composite the 'finished' photo based on the best parts of each. This helps mitigate 'blurring' of subjects that is so common in low light photos. This all happens so fast as to be appear to be instant.
The improvements to the camera system on the 5S are significant.
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I'm well aware of the hardware changes. What you wrote is basically taken from Apples own marketing department.

The most interesting points are the first three ones for any photographer. Interesting numbers, but it still remains to be seen how much more impressive it is once we see its real life performance.
 
Gix1k said:
No one forces you to come in this or the other ones. Nor are you tasked to be clutter controller. Move on.
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I never claimed to be any form of "clutter control". :rolleyes: I asked a rhetorical question in a redundant thread and received a question on what difference redundant threads made. They create clutter. ;)
 
Hope someone can answer - how much would a 16GB iPhone 5s for Verizon cost without an available upgrade? And is this possible to buy?
 
Yes, most likely. I tell myself I won't upgrade every year, but I end up finding a reason to do it. This year it is the camera. I am going on a family vacation in a month and the better camera pulled me in.
 
Imory said:
I'm well aware of the hardware changes. What you wrote is basically taken from Apples own marketing department.
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True. I watched the entire keynote and have been paying attention to the details. A lot of people have seen nothing more than 'it's still an 8MP camera' or 'the camera was upgraded'. So, I take it upon myself to toss the details into the mix because they go a lot deeper than those folks know.

The most interesting points are the first three ones for any photographer. Interesting numbers, but it still remains to be seen how much more impressive it is once we see its real life performance.
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I would argue that the fourth bullet point (dual LEDs that can match the color/temperature of the ambient light) is just as interesting. Prior to this, the single LED flash generated awful flash pics. The side-by-side comparisons between the single LED flash and the dual LEDs are great.
 
Personally I am not. I have 2 iphone5's on my account and will keep both waiting for the 6.

I think the fingerprint scanner will be a handy feature that will benefit me. But I do generally believe it is best to avoid the first implementation of a new technology. Although fingerprint scanners aren't new, they are new to this phone. So I would rather wait for the next iteration.
 
eoblaed said:
True. I watched the entire keynote and have been paying attention to the details. A lot of people have seen nothing more than 'it's still an 8MP camera' or 'the camera was upgraded'. So, I take it upon myself to toss the details into the mix because they go a lot deeper than those folks know.

I would argue that the fourth bullet point (dual LEDs that can match the color/temperature of the ambient light) is just as interesting. Prior to this, the single LED flash generated awful flash pics. The side-by-side comparisons between the single LED flash and the dual LEDs are great.
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And you've seen nothing more than Apple's marketing departments handy work.

Sure there's some interesting stuff with regards to the camera system there, but as far as I can tell, nobody has seen any actual images or comparisons of images (other than the flash) and video versus the iPhone 5. Let's wait for those before discussing hypothetical image quality.
 
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I wouldn't upgrade if I couldn't do it basically for free.

The jump from 4S to 5 in processing speed was pretty much the same as between 5 to 5S basically 2X CPU and 2X GPU, both phones with iOS 6 performed very similarly. 4 to 4S upgrade was much bigger in terms of processing power (single core to dual core, 5 times GPU power). Even 3GS was 3X the performance of the 3G

Apple would make it seem that this is the biggest jump of the iPhones, and yes, certainly is the one that is adding more raw power, but proportionally it is the smallest one of the "S" series when comparing with the previous gen.

64 bit is just future proofing and don't think we will see any advantages during this generation. Only if you care about the camera should really upgrade, which I don't. Touch ID seems very convinient but I wouldn't buy a 5S just for it.

Still I'll get the 5S and sell my 5 as I have done with any generation before, but only because I can basically sell my 5 for pretty much the same I can get a new 5S unlocked from the states (don't know why resell value of used iPhones is stupidly high in my country), but this is frankly the least excited I have ever been for an iPhone hardware upgrade.
 
eoblaed said:
True. I watched the entire keynote and have been paying attention to the details. A lot of people have seen nothing more than 'it's still an 8MP camera' or 'the camera was upgraded'. So, I take it upon myself to toss the details into the mix because they go a lot deeper than those folks know.
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Luckily, I'm not one of those people. ;)

eoblaed said:
I would argue that the fourth bullet point (dual LEDs that can match the color/temperature of the ambient light) is just as interesting. Prior to this, the single LED flash generated awful flash pics. The side-by-side comparisons between the single LED flash and the dual LEDs are great.
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The reason I didn't include the fourth bullet point is for the single fact that photographers try to avoid the flash as much as they possibly can. Flash somewhat ruins the photo in terms of raw footage. :D

However, you're absolutely right in terms of a technical standpoint. The dual LED will be hopefully be a great upgrade for those odd moments where you simply can't avoid using the flash, if you find it necessary at that point to take a picture.
 
64bit my ass.. Big no. Also, fingerprint and camera is not a big deal. Also the processor on the 5 is good. I'm running GM now and mine is 64gb
 
I don't even need a new one but will upgrade cuz I'm a dumb Apple whore sheep.

worse, I read these Anand Engag reviews and start to shake like a leaf.

Life is good :)
 
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