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iPad mini Any LTE rMinis without screen problems?
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Don't confuse people's obsession in these threads with OCD, it's not the same thing.
OK, sticking with this one!
OK, the OP here again. I did return the one I photographed earlier. Replaced it with another new one (DLXLV week 50, for those who might be interested). Nice, even color.
Does display some image retention if I run the checkerboard test for 45 seconds. BUT I cannot pick this up in any daily use. Reading iBooks is a major use, and even leaving a page open for 2 minutes I don't see anything when I change pages. I watched a letterbox video, flipped the screen and went to white, and still don't pick up a problem.
So, for me, even-color, which I look at every time I use it, easily trumps image retention.
The size is great. Coming from an iPad 1 which I still have, and an iPad 3, this is going to be a fun fit. Main use is traveling. This is a great size to fit on the airplane drop down tray table, great to hold for reading, etc. Not bad on the dinner table when sitting in some restaurant in the middle of nowhere.
I am probably what would be termed an Apple Fanboy. I am impressed at their willingness to take returns on items that, quite probably, easily pass their QC tests. Perfect thin screens are challenging! What I might call a defect is really that my purchase requirements are different that Apple's release specs. I do not know of any other manufacturers that have such a liberal return policy.
Anyway, thanks for the comments all. Loving the rMini
OK, the OP here again. I did return the one I photographed earlier. Replaced it with another new one (DLXLV week 50, for those who might be interested). Nice, even color.
Does display some image retention if I run the checkerboard test for 45 seconds. BUT I cannot pick this up in any daily use. Reading iBooks is a major use, and even leaving a page open for 2 minutes I don't see anything when I change pages. I watched a letterbox video, flipped the screen and went to white, and still don't pick up a problem.
So, for me, even-color, which I look at every time I use it, easily trumps image retention.
The size is great. Coming from an iPad 1 which I still have, and an iPad 3, this is going to be a fun fit. Main use is traveling. This is a great size to fit on the airplane drop down tray table, great to hold for reading, etc. Not bad on the dinner table when sitting in some restaurant in the middle of nowhere.
I am probably what would be termed an Apple Fanboy. I am impressed at their willingness to take returns on items that, quite probably, easily pass their QC tests. Perfect thin screens are challenging! What I might call a defect is really that my purchase requirements are different that Apple's release specs. I do not know of any other manufacturers that have such a liberal return policy.
Anyway, thanks for the comments all. Loving the rMini
Anyway, thanks for the comments all. Loving the rMini
I feel so close to you
I just got rMini (week 51), it has the same IR as you, but otherwise the screen is suberb: even, vibrant colors, no bleed, no dust/debris under the screen, no dead pixels...
... I love it...
First, when I read all these posts about IR, I did the test. I shouldn't. This worried me a lot. Uselessly...
After a lot of tests and reading, I came to the conclusion...
IR experimented in the current rMinis is not a fault, it's a technical limitation of the screen type Apple now use.
It is hardly noticeable during normal use, as a lot of people have already said... Basically, you've to search for it or provoke it.
And this screen type is otherwise great...
I think Apple knows perfecly what it does: it switched from a screen type suffering from obvious problem (color, taint, bleed, etc), to a screen type maybe not totally perfect (IR), but superb during normal use...
Enjoy your rMini !
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I feel so close to you
I just got rMini (week 51), it has the same IR as you, but otherwise the screen is suberb: even, vibrant colors, no bleed, no dust/debris under the screen, no dead pixels...
... I love it...
First, when I read all these posts about IR, I did the test. I shouldn't. This worried me a lot. Uselessly...
After a lot of tests and reading, I came to the conclusion...
IR experimented in the current rMinis is not a fault, it's a technical limitation of the screen type Apple now use.
It is hardly noticeable during normal use, as a lot of people have already said... Basically, you've to search for it or provoke it.
And this screen type is otherwise great...
I think Apple knows perfecly what it does: it switched from a screen type suffering from obvious problem (color, taint, bleed, etc), to a screen type maybe not totally perfect (IR), but superb during normal use...
Enjoy your rMini !
But... I spent MONEY on it. MY money. And because I did, I deserve it to be PERFECT. If I run an abstract program for 20 minutes at max brightness and with the volume cranked all the way not ONLY do I get some mild IR, but it also (get this) lessens my battery life! What horrible quality control!
Steve must be rolling in his grave that they'd let a device with a mild screen issue that only affects people staring at test patterns for minutes on end (and hurts battery life while at it) on the market.
I'm going back to a pad and paper. No IR there.
Words of wisdom! I should close this thread while it's on a rational train of thought!
Thanks all for the advice.
+1... don't..
As I said... Superb display, and IR or not is "a no issue" because IR is unoticeable during normal use and inherent to the screen type used by Apple... it exists "by built".
Shouldn't have read
all these "OCD" posts about IR. Lot of stress and time/energy lost for... nothing...The rMini is a great device...
There are many other on OCD issues like this
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Try to paint a black square on the paper, stare at it for minutes .... you are going to see IR also on that piece of paperBut... I spent MONEY on it. MY money. And because I did, I deserve it to be PERFECT. If I run an abstract program for 20 minutes at max brightness and with the volume cranked all the way not ONLY do I get some mild IR, but it also (get this) lessens my battery life! What horrible quality control!
Steve must be rolling in his grave that they'd let a device with a mild screen issue that only affects people staring at test patterns for minutes on end (and hurts battery life while at it) on the market.
I'm going back to a pad and paper. No IR there.
Shame on you
I think this is probably true. I've seen pics of rMini screens on this forum that had obvious problems with uneven tints and washed-out colors, and now there seem to be more users reporting overall excellent screens. The screen on mine is great, and the color saturation is very close to what I see on my iPhone 5.
Try to paint a black square on the paper, stare at it for minutes .... you are going to see IR also on that piece of paper
Agreed. Print out the following and count the number of dots; how many are black and how many are white?
Agreed. Print out the following and count the number of dots; how many are black and how many are white?
Image
Aaaargh ... My iPad screen is defective ! I can see switching black and white points !
I'm going to return 7-8 units until I'll find a good one
I was about to say the same thing.
Nice to see MacRumors is as great as always. "OMG I HAVE OCD CAUSE I DONT LIKE THIS SCREEN". :/
Mine does have slight image retention when I run that test, but it vanishes quickly and, frankly, I don't see it ever becoming a problem in real life usage. The screen is slightly warmer near the home button, but as I usually keep the brightness at 1/5, I don't really notice it as it's only visible once you turn the brightness up past 50% (which is too bright for my eyes to stand). I'm very happy with the screen despite these flaws. It's a delight to read on and after two weeks of real life usage the supposed flaws haven't bothered me at all. People need to start enjoying their devices instead of actively searching for flaws.
I have a new rMini 32 GB LTE. I've been using it through my regular workflow the past few days and haven't noticed anything different compared to my iPad 3. I haven't run any "tests" because if I can't notice something in my day to day usage, I don't want to go out of my way to induce something - and make me feel unhappy.
Agreed. Print out the following and count the number of dots; how many are black and how many are white?
Image
Sweet. Merciful. CRAP!!!
Now my EYES have this horrible "IR" problem. When I was paying my OWN MONEY for them I had hoped to get something that would be 100% flawless in every area I could ever think of, but now someone has come along and shown me a problem I didn't even know I had!
Oh the IRONING!
Guess it's back to the Apple store... I have no idea why, but everyone else seems to blame them so I figure I can too!
Should I return 8, 9, TEN sets of eyes before I give up??? What's crazy? Please tell me so I don't look like an idiot making return after return...
Definitively my last post in this thread... A little story similar to some posts...
Yesterday my mother came with its iPad 4.
Her and my father are using it heavily since more than one year now, as well as myself for "support" ;-).
They are specially happy with the speed and the quality of the retina screen (even colours, vivid, no taint, no dead pixel).
They never complained about the product quality, display or other...
And true, it's a great device...
By curiosity, I quickly and discretly did the Marco test: same IR than the rMini.
Of course I told nothing to my mother.
Conclusion: since at least more than a year, Apple heavily use a retina screen type that could be reviewed like this:
PROs: even taint, vivid colors, no bleeding... Happy users
CONs: technical limitation: some image retention NOT visible during normal use
Now you are aware... This IR-gate should stop... It's incredible all this buzz for nothing...
Enjoy your rMini and forget about perfection...
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Three ipad mini retina white LTE with screen tint problems.
Tomorrow go to Apple Store to change...
Tomorrow go to Apple Store to change...
No screen problems at all on my 128gb LTE rMini. Very happy with that device, haven't used my 3g iPad 3 since i got it, its just too heavy and slow.
FWIW, I have an AT&T Cellular rMini. I think the screen is beautiful. I have never done any testing on it and never will. Frankly, I tend to avoid these types of threads as I don't even want to know how to do the testing.
Maybe, as they say, ignorance is bliss. However, there are literally times when I open up the rMini and I am caught by the beauty of the device.
Maybe, as they say, ignorance is bliss. However, there are literally times when I open up the rMini and I am caught by the beauty of the device.
Testing a screen in a manner that falls outside of normal usage is only going to bring headaches and frustration. If the screen looks great when you use it - enjoy it
Why try to pick nits and see if there's a tiny problem by doing something (to find the defects) that would never do in actual usage.Maybe that's why I'm so happy