Any other 2G users feel abandoned?

[AbSoluTc]

My jailbroken 3G handles all the stuff OS 4.0 will do fine.

Phew! Sounds like you have everything you want and then some. So why worry about running 4.0 when you are jailbroken and doing MORE than you can ask for?

Lol. That's something I don't get. All these 2G and 3G people whining about not being able to run 4.0 or some parts of it, yet they happily state they are doing it now jailbroken? Lol. Stay jailbroken then.

 

[AbSoluTc]

Been using my iPhone 2G on t-mobile since the days of a 1.0 jailbreak. I am finding it hard to believe it can't run any of the new OS. My main problem is, eventually the apps in the App Store will require 4.0 or higher to run them, which leaves me SOL. I'm sure i'm not the only one here who feels this way, am I?

You feel abandoned? Lol.

Your JAILBROKEN 2G is on T-Mobile. Need anyone say anymore? Not our fault you're cheap

 

[jav6454]

Been using my iPhone 2G on t-mobile since the days of a 1.0 jailbreak. I am finding it hard to believe it can't run any of the new OS. My main problem is, eventually the apps in the App Store will require 4.0 or higher to run them, which leaves me SOL. I'm sure i'm not the only one here who feels this way, am I?

It was bound to happen very soon. The 1st Gen already stuttered too much in OS 3. OS 4 would have crippled it beyond usability.

 

[sg.hill]

True that multitasking would likely be painful on the original and I didn't expect Apple to support it forever, but at least a handful of major features would still be nice:

• Unified Inbox
• 2nd Exchange Account Support
• Folders
• SSL VPN support

As someone with an original iPhone, I would have found all of the above useful. It's pretty hard to justify the hardware not being able to handle creating folders or sorting email by threads.

 

[DipDog3]

It was bound to happen very soon. The 1st Gen already stuttered too much in OS 3. OS 4 would have crippled it beyond usability.

Agree, the 2G struggles with OS 3.

 

[ct2k7]

Agree, the 2G struggles with OS 3.

Mine doesn't. It's as fast as 2.2.1

 

[iphonegeek786]

Maybe the Dev Team will port the OS 4 onto 2Gs.

 

[sorchard]

Name me another 3 year old phone that still gets regular major software updates.

Nokia has a track record of supporting its older phones. My 2006 phone got an update late last year.

Not major updates, because Nokia's OS is already well established and stable, with all the features that are to be expected. But at least they still fix bugs and add small features for their older phones.

Looks like I am going to have to jailbreak my iPod touch to get features that should have been there in the first place. Apple can't give me their version of multitasking, but I can get advertising?

 

[Revelation78]

Nokia has a track record of supporting its older phones. My 2006 phone got an update late last year.

Not major updates, because Nokia's OS is already well established and stable, with all the features that are to be expected. But at least they still fix bugs and add small features for their older phones.

Looks like I am going to have to jailbreak my iPod touch to get features that should have been there in the first place. Apple can't give me their version of multitasking, but I can get advertising?

You already get adverts in the apps, or maybe it only matters if it's done by Apple now.... Really find something else to complain about. Apple isn't going to require Devs to use Apple ads in their apps - it's "gasp" an OPTION. Apple doesn't want to give the 3G backgrounding apps, so what, jailbreak like you already mentioned or buy a new phone - simple.

 

[mavis]

It's coming onto 3 yrs old this summer. It's pretty reasonable they stop supporting it now. I was surprised when 3.0 supported it tbh.

Exactly. And since the 3G has the same processor and meager 128MB RAM, it's also unreasonable to expect it to be able to handle the same bells and whistles that the 3GS can (backgrounding, voice control, etc) ...

 

[karlwig]

To answer OP:

Not really. I bought my 1st gen iPhone in what, 2007? Im actually amased the platform has stayed so consistant, allowing me to make updates and get free new features over the course of these years.

Its all in how you look at it. I bought a product that for its time was amazing, a device from the future. It had a hardware and a software. Then Apple said, "so here is a new software thats even better, there you go, just take it". How can I be disappointed? Its just a bonus, really.

The only thing that wasnt a bonus, was how OS 3 was kind of slow for my iPhone compared to the previous OS. Now my iPhone is very sluggish. So even if Apple threw multitasking after my grandmother, I still wouldnt have picked it up. I dont want more features packed into a OS thats already raping the RAM and processor.

Its been a good ride, for sure. But if I want to continue getting cooler rides, guess what, this time I have to pay for it. Nothing wrong with that, I have basically gotten several phones for the price of one, considering all the software upgrades.

And my old phone will still work as before, if I dont want to upgrade. Its amazing, in this day and age where the quality of electronics are ****, my iPhone has always been good to me. If only I could remember the dozins of times I have dropped my iPhone onto concrete or asphalt, thrown it at people or walls, pouring coke at it -- it still works, haha!

 

[Small White Car]

My main problem is, eventually the apps in the App Store will require 4.0 or higher to run them, which leaves me SOL.

Question: If you're apparently happy with 4 year old hardware, what's the problem with using 1 year old software?

That's a serious question. Clearly, having the most recent technology isn't high on your list of priorities. So why do you care that you can't run the newest apps?

 

[ct2k7]

Question: If you're apparently happy with 4 year old hardware, what's the problem with using 1 year old software?

That's a serious question. Clearly, having the most recent technology isn't high on your list of priorities. So why do you care that you can't run the newest apps?

How about the most useful and bug updates?

From my point on view, a developer, developing for two platforms at my level is a pain, becuase I'll be wanting to do new things, but I can't becuase I'm restricted within the boundaries of my devices as the business I'm writing an app for uses 1st generation iPhones, with a few iPhone 3Gs, but no 3GS

 

[Kahnyl]

You'd get less crying in a nursery.

 

[ct2k7]

You'd get less crying in a nursery.

I'd get sweets, which is worth more than $0.

 

[sorchard]

or buy a new phone - simple.

That's the Apple Way, I guess? (I realise this is the iPhone forum, but my device is an iPod. I would never buy an iPhone)

I'd be less annoyed if it was something revolutionary and new that I wasn't getting, not something that is a rather basic feature, works fine with a more kludgy way of doing things (Backgrounder doesn't suspend like the Apple solution does) and will work fine on the hardware I already have. It may or may not be as smooth - but perhaps it should be left up to the user to decide?

We all know Apple's track record on allowing the user to choose how they want to do things on the device they paid for, however...

 

[Small White Car]

...becuase I'll be wanting to do new things, but I can't becuase ... I'm writing an app for uses 1st generation iPhones, with a few iPhone 3Gs, but no 3GS

Then your users don't want new things.

If they wanted to buy new phones to have all the latest goodies then they would. They're not so clearly that's not important to them.

That sucks for you as a developer. I know. There are lots of things I'd love to do at work but they're not things that my business cares about so they don't get done.

But the fact is, the people you write software for don't care about having the newest things. I know you want them to care, but they don't.

My point is that MANY electronics don't get upgraded much past what they came with. Many Android phones sold recently will never be able to run Android 2. Many computers sold with XP were not able to run Vista very well. It's very common. The fact that the original iPhones have gotten 2 full updates already is better than most companies would have done.

This is what bugs me: With the iPhone Apple has given users about 200% more software upgrade effort than other companies do, but people complain because they're not giving 400% more effort. I find that kind of frustrating.

 

[ct2k7]

Then your users don't want new things.

If they wanted to buy new phones to have all the latest goodies then they would. They're not so clearly that's not important to them.

That sucks for you as a developer. I know. There are lots of things I'd love to do at work but they're not things that my business cares about so they don't get done.

But the fact is, the people you write software for don't care about having the newest things. I know you want them to care, but they don't.

My point is that MANY electronics don't get upgraded much past what they came with. Many Android phones sold recently will never be able to run Android 2. Many computers sold with XP were not able to run Vista very well. It's very common. The fact that the original iPhones have gotten 2 full updates already is better than most companies would have done.

This is what bugs me: With the iPhone Apple has given users about 200% more software upgrade effort than other companies do, but people complain because they're not giving 400% more effort. I find that kind of frustrating.

Well, from what I am being told - they do have some plans to bring in new iPhones, but it will not currently replace the whole cohort. If I am understanding the briefing correctly, then it will be regionally done.

Now although I would want to do things- as a developer, getting management to understand that there are things not available on the older device that they want in the software is like talking to a brick wall, because they will bring in financial issues.

For example, I was asked to look at if I use the iPhone's camera to capture the barcode, then analyse it. The resultant was the firm investing in devices priced at $499 each (not sure about bulk discount) just to do something that could really be done on an iPhone 3GS. Ok, the device is more accurate and offers more (bardcode scanner and card reader) but still :/.

Maintaining two softwares for each platform is a complete pain in the arse - I wonder how many things will become deprecated that we'll have to rewrite?

The other option is to stay with the current firmware - although we haven't discussed this properly yet. The business just doesn't have enough faith in the currrent iPhone models where they seem to break easily (hardware-wise). The original iPhone is brilliant in terms of durability.