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Any Vegetarians/Vegans?
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Well its something you'll have to find out for yourself. Your friend is right in a sense although I suppose it depends where you get your meat from. If you ever eat meat at average restaurants or fast food joints....or buy your meat at a grocery store then yes thats hypocritical. If you want a good read on the subject try "Fast Food Nation" by Eric Schlosser.
The way meat gets from the animal to your plate in the consumer driven machine is one of the worst things for the environment and trust me there's no dignity for the animals. It is different for the animals if they grow up on a farm, live in the fields and live a decent life. Those animals are few & far inbetween in the meat industry.
It all depends, if you have common sense and eat well there's probably no need at all. I became a vegetarian 13 years ago after being raised on meat dominated meals. Alot of people were freaking me out about nutrition and said I'm lacking protein. So I went to the doctor & explained the situation. He laughed and said by cutting out meat I'm probably getting the correct amount of protein that a human body needs. But, to alleviate my fears he sent me for a blood test. This is over a year of being a veg. The tests came back and I was fine in all areas....vit B12 was a tad low but nothing to worry about. He said if I wanted I could take B12 supplements but it wasn't anything to worry about. I want to add, that looking back I was the worst vegetarian ever. I just cut out meat and then did almost *nothing* to replace it in my diet. I had veggie pizza, veggie pasta etc. I was a student and imagine a bad student diet, eating fast on the go. Since then I've learned more about nutrition and take the time to eat well as much as possible.
Becoming a vegetarian is completely natural and your body will thank you. I really don't think there's any need to consult a doctor or nutritionist unless you're seriously worried. Just use common sense and don't eat much processed food. Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but a GREAT source of protein is hemp hearts (shelled hemp seeds). They are a complete protein and have all the essential amino acids in there. They're assume as a snack (taste like nuts) or on a salad.
Another great book is Vegan Planet
I'm not a vegan yet but would really love to make the jump. The only thing that really holds me back is I love cheese & milk chocolate.
The vegetable industry is equally bad for the ecology. I talked to some one who had a large farmer community where he lived, but did they have a local farmers market? No, they packed all the goods into trucks and shipped them across America.
Where does he get his veggies? From across America, where they just shipped the ones grown outside his city.
I don't eat meat, but still eat eggs and milk. I've been going for 2 1/2 years so far. Right now I think chicken (cooked) smells pretty bad. . . although bacon is another story *inhales*
Where does he get his veggies? From across America, where they just shipped the ones grown outside his city.
I don't eat meat, but still eat eggs and milk. I've been going for 2 1/2 years so far. Right now I think chicken (cooked) smells pretty bad. . . although bacon is another story *inhales*
Before you get too excited about bacon read up on this a bit:
http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/iowa_pigfarm_abuse
I did some clicking around and came across of picture of baby pig tales & testicles that were ripped off by hand...without any pain killers.
You are right about agriculture, not sure its as bad overall when you consider the waste issue. Shipping produce across a country or overseas is insane. Its big business though and money calls the shots. I find it absurd that where I live in BC we grow an abundance of fruit yet its still imported up from California, Florida and overseas.
http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/iowa_pigfarm_abuse
I did some clicking around and came across of picture of baby pig tales & testicles that were ripped off by hand...without any pain killers.
You are right about agriculture, not sure its as bad overall when you consider the waste issue. Shipping produce across a country or overseas is insane. Its big business though and money calls the shots. I find it absurd that where I live in BC we grow an abundance of fruit yet its still imported up from California, Florida and overseas.
One of the things that helped me become a vegetarian is the fact I find it very hard to touch raw meat. I've no problem with uncooked bacon, sausages of anything cooked. Even a raw chicken breast is 'okay'. It's larger cuts of meat, especially on the bone and with skin.
Every time I touch a chicken or turkey that's dead and still has skin I think of the last time I saw my mother the night she died. Saying goodbye to her cold lifeless body.
Wouldn't have been so bad if she'd not been wearing the chicken suit I guess!
That's a joke, probably inappropriate though.
lmao
Every one I've been to does.
here's a few common dishes:
here's a few common dishes:
- Avocado rolls
- Cucumber rolls
- Yam rolls
- Gomai is a delicious salad, spinich & peanut sauce I believe
- Be careful w/ the Miso soup as often it has tuna flakes in it.
- Veg Tempura is deep fried vegetables.
I just was overall not feeling good, depression, etc.
It all went away when I stopped. I don't know if it was a physical thing or a mental thing. I really enjoyed it though while it lasted.
Very nice, thanks.
This is my 3rd day not eating meat
Inari is usually vegetarian as well (different from enagi). It's rice wrapped in fried tofu sheets.
You can also buy inari pouches and make them up yourself. They make a very quick and easy lunch. Just cook up some sushi rice and then pop in your favorite fresh vegies, a bit of tofu, and you're away. Alternatively just pop in some of the left over stir-fry or fried rice from the night before. A very quick, easy and filling lunch. And they last a couple of days in the fridge
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This is a bit of a myth. B12 deficiency symptoms take a very long time to develop (5 to 20 years) and are not straightforwardly linked to consumption of animal products. The source of B12 is not plants OR animals; neither manufacture their own B12. Bacteria are, in fact, the B12 producers on which both plants and animals rely. In humans, the mouth, upper intestine, and lower intestine all contain bacteria that produce B12. However, it's unknown if enough B12 to meet daily requirements can come from internal sources of B12. More likely, they produce some, and the rest comes in with food and water consumed.
All of the Vitamin B12 in the world ultimately comes from bacteria. Plants can be contaminated with B12 when they come in contact with soil bacteria that produce it (although this source of B12 is often washed away in food preparation). Animal foods are rich in B12 only because animals eat foods that are contaminated with it or because bacteria living in an animal's intestines make it.
But if you are worried about B12 intake take a supplement. The good news is that it is virtually impossible to consume too much B12, since it has a very low potential for toxicity.
That's good to know. Still when I get a chance I'm going to a nutritionist just to make sure I'm doing things right.
You can also buy inari pouches and make them up yourself. They make a very quick and easy lunch. Just cook up some sushi rice and then pop in your favorite fresh vegies, a bit of tofu, and you're away. Alternatively just pop in some of the left over stir-fry or fried rice from the night before. A very quick, easy and filling lunch. And they last a couple of days in the fridge
I've actually never seen inari pouches anywhere, but that would be pretty swell.
Right! I just had that not too long ago & didn't know what it was. Sort of had a sweet teriyaki style sauce on it. Delicious!
In 2009, I photographed everything I ate. This is the result...
http://garry.cc/blog/2010/06/19/whatiate/
I did this because I saw a book that had photos of everything a guy ate for a year. He was an omnivore, but his diet was pretty bad. I came up with this idea when I started to get the same questions over and over again as a vegetarian.
Feel free to repost the link.
Thanks!
http://garry.cc/blog/2010/06/19/whatiate/
I did this because I saw a book that had photos of everything a guy ate for a year. He was an omnivore, but his diet was pretty bad. I came up with this idea when I started to get the same questions over and over again as a vegetarian.
Feel free to repost the link.
Thanks!