Oh there are certainly some healthy foods that I find fun and delicious - I just wish I found them as fun and delicious as I find many unhealthy foods.
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Oh there are certainly some healthy foods that I find fun and delicious - I just wish I found them as fun and delicious as I find many unhealthy foods.
Hahaha my wife just forwarded this to me I thought the timing was perfect:
That was too funny!
Oh there are certainly some healthy foods that I find fun and delicious - I just wish I found them as fun and delicious as I find many unhealthy foods.
I can think of things that are healthy and OK at best, maybe even a little good.
But delicious food is normally terrible for you.
I couldn't disagree with you more. I know a ton of delicious food that is also healthy and could probably survive on it for the rest of my life if I even tried.
Can you point to the "bunch" that you see?
I was striving to be anything but negative towards meat eaters.
So was I. That's the problem with your argument. Just because it's biologically possible doesn't make it right. As you go on to argue;
Which is arguing against your own point. Humans are capable of applying ethics to their decisions. Biological possibility alone as you argued above is clearly a faulty argument.
Which is entirely debatable and what should be. Unless you are suffering from a severe case of anthropocentricism is clearly not the case at all. For instance why be against factory farming?
I'm not going on the veggie perspective and your statement wasn't geared towards it from what I can tell. But you can have layers of flavor using rice, spices, vegetables and lean proteins, you can get your sweets from fruits and dehydrating them so they're more like candy, and you can eat bread, even vegan bread. Bread isn't bad for you but eating half a loaf a day is, I assume.
I'm just saying that you can certainly eat well and eat healthy. I am not, nor will I ever be a vegan or vegetarian. I also eat junk that I shouldn't and I pay for it dearly.
For a while I thought along the same lines. I wondered why there were so many meat-eaters pledging their love to meat in a thread that seemed aimed to understand the vegetarian choice.
But then I considered questions in the post (#255) which raised the thread from the dead ...
And I realized that it was an invitation for meat-eaters to discuss their choice as well. While the OP is clearly geared to understand the vegetarian mindset, the more recent discussion is more open to other preferences.
beer is healthy (water/wheat/hops) and vegetarian and I could live on it
And if you care, it can be gluten free.
There's about a thousand awesome vegetarian/vegan recipe books at your local bookstore. Just saying.. in case some people are struggling to find tasty dishes without meat.
Google/YouTube is also very simple
Google/YouTube is also very simple
Point taken.
Correct. Though I suppose it comes down to personal ethics. To some people, eating a cow is just as bad banging a kid maybe?
But I think to most people, it is not.
This is true, the way I see it. The cow grows, it gets cut up into meat, thrown onto a grill, and then eaten. I don't see anyone getting hurt here.
My reasoning for disliking factory farming is probably very different from lots of other people.
The cramped conditions, using corn as feed, pumping them full of growth hormones and other crap and being covered in their own filth their whole lives.
Produces inferior meat, trust me. A cow that eats grass rather than corn, has room to graze, and isn't full of hormones is gonna taste WAY better.
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beer is healthy (water/wheat/hops) and vegetarian and I could live on it
This is true.
Your liver might not like that
Here's the thing I think humans take life far too quickly and without much thought. The consumption of meat has increased greatly since people have become more removed from the raising/hunting, killing, butchering. Meat no longer comes from an animal it comes from Kroger. If you combine detachment and factory farming the animal has lost it's value as a living thing and it's lost for no good reason. My wife and daughter eat some meat but we get it from the butcher who buys his animals from the local farms (3) I know what those animals are fed and how they lived so I'm OK with it. A little more respect would go a long way
I understand that people are veggies or vegans, or animated cartoon cucumbers on a holy war ( Drawn together )
I've heard all the Reasonings, and I understand some, but do not understand the other one.
1: Health reasons
I get this one, if there is a medical reason not to eat meat, or avoid it as much as possible, I can totally understand that
2: Cultural or religious reasons
Understand that to.
3: I don't the taste
I do not understand that, have they never had a hanger steak O_O!?
4: I want to end suffering of animals
This is one of those things I do not fully understand, I have pets and probably wouldn't eat them because they wouldn't taste good.
Ok, I can kind of understand the factory farming thing, I personally avoid meat from those, because it doesn't taste very good.
But, if I shoot a deer in the head during deer season, it drops dead instantly, then I take it to someone to chop it up and make yum yums out of it.
Where's the suffering? Most animals are generally not self aware. ( Do not bring up Whales and Dolphins, I am 100% against Whale hunting )
5: Animals are people to and we should respect them as people.
I straight up do not understand how anyone could view livestock as a person.
Help?
In the words of Jim Gaffigan
" I mean the pig is really the most amazing animal when you think about it, think about it! You feed it Apples and lettuce, utter garbage. And it makes bacon! "
Been lacto-ovo vegetarian 30+ years.
Experimenting with DIY soylent after reading: How I Stopped Eating Food and now waiting for Rob's commercial product to ship.
Experimenting with DIY soylent after reading: How I Stopped Eating Food and now waiting for Rob's commercial product to ship.
Well, you chose a very unusual situation.
It's certainly not typical of the animals that are confined, raised and slaughtered.
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Reasons I'm quitting is just overall better health and to detox my body of eating dairy(mostly cheese) on a daily basis. Many people I spoke with who quit dairy say their sinuses feel much clearer(even if it wasn't clogged), no more allergies during allergy season(spring), skin clears up dramatically, more energy, and etc.
I'm giving it a try to see how it goes, starting this Sunday. I'm just doing it for about 4 months and if I see/feel the benefits, then I'll be only eating small portions of dairy randomly instead of consuming it daily.
I understand the bad side of factory farming. I buy all my meat from a local organic farm ( like I go to the actual farm ).
Let me rephrase that.
At this farm ( its very much like Polyface, check my earlier post ), the livestock is allowed to graze, it isn't confined to anything, and it just kinda chills out, lives naturally, and eventually gets eaten.
Is there any suffering there?
I can only speak for myself, but perhaps someone else here might agree with me:
Meat is singularly the type of food that brings me the most joy. Don't get me wrong, I still like a good pot of barbecued beans, or an epic green salad, or a bowl of fruit, but there's nothing in this world food-wise that excites me the way meat does. Now, this thread is about a lifestyle that completely eliminates that.
Again, I can't speak for anyone else, but the thought of giving up meat depresses me (I tried once). So the lifestyle choice is hard for me to grasp. As a result, I speak up with my love for meat. I didn't intend for my comments to come across as hostile, if indeed they did.
They say that dairy and citrus (orange juice is my trigger) can stimulate the production of excess mucus in your sinus cavities, hence sinus pressure ... and if you aren't careful it can evolve into a sinus headache or even worse a sinus infection..
I have also heard that a gluten-free diet will help with sinuses and allergies.
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