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I have had nothing but trouble on the four computers I have installed Mac OS 10.5 'Leopard' on.

That's it! For $130, I want my money back!

Kinda sounds like: $130 = 1 copy of Leopard for 4 computers.

Like I said though, it's your business. Besides, it's irrelevant to your OP anyway.
 
I just thought of 2 more things I want in Leopard.

Itunes has the song rating system, iphoto does too - but make it a top-level rating, for all files and folders. A one click access, to rate anything from applications, to desktop images, screen savers and folders.

So your random desktops will show only the ones you like, random screen savers will do the same. And files that you favor over others, can be found under a "preferred" status faster.

Now - on the flip side of that - have a one-click setting to make individual files / pictures / documents "private". I don't want to have to re-organize all my "film rolls" to stop certain pictures from showing up on my screen saver. Or pop up a private letter while flipping through cover flow with somebody standing by me.
 
What are you? The OS Police?! Please! Get off your high horse.. It's not worth $35 for each computer. And I'm going to spend $200 for a family license, FOR THE EXACT SAME DISK? I think not. And besides, I have already PURCHASED 4 brand new Mac computers in the last year and a half. I don't feel bad for Apple.

Why doesn't someone here actually address my real concerns? Did you even read the posting? Everyone here is quick to attack me, but how long have you been a mac user? Or a computer user? My first computer was the original IBM 5150, so I think I know what the hell I'm talking about.

Yes, thanks for your Smart Ass comment, it was REALLY helpful. (Hear the sarcasm?)

Wow. Take a deep breath. You started a thread here, you have to accept the fact that not everyone answering will be in complete agreement with you.

...And so what if I did install it on more than one machine? Everyone here does, you all just don't have the balls to admit it.

No, that's wrong. Many of us don't.
 
I like 10.5, I just think (And the Applecare Tech I talked to agreed) that 10.5 came out waaaay too soon.
 
no one forced anyone to upgrade, and theres plenty of reports of the pro's and con's of leopard. You can even go to an Apple store and test it. The minimum requirements are provided. If your complaining about leopard saying that tiger was better, stick with tiger. Stick with panther, whatever keeps you happy.
 
Do I expect more from Apple than I do Microsoft? Absolutely! Do I expect there to be bugs? Yes. I know there will be. I just feel that my experiences with 10.2.0, 10.3.0, and 10.4.0 were more solid than 10.5.0. I'm not saying it's a bad OS, it's still the best available. And no, my heart isn't broken, come on... But I expect more from Steve and Co.
Usually that degree of whining is a sign of a broken heart. It is unusual to hear from an admitted software thief, however.

Expect more from Apple if you want...one thing you can expect is that software pirates like you may very well result in everyone having to activate future versions of OSX. Thanks for that.
 
I Agree! What is wrong with views in Leopard! ARGG!

Yes, the previous posters are all correct. View Options DO NOT STAY PUT in Leopard, I noticed this in the Leopard Betas, and it has continued throughout all the Official 10.5 releases and updates, up to and including 10.5.6. Why can;t Apple COmputer fix something as simple as this? View Options always saved correctly in 10.4. (Never mind the other pet peeve of mine in 10.5, I HATE the sidebar, I wish so bad I could "pull it" all the way out of existence, like in 10.4

I always want to keep my Boot Drive in 128 Pixel Icon View, and from there, hav all my folders in Large Icon List View, but it doesn't matter what I do, all my views always default back to small icon list view, this is so annoying!

If anybody has has a definitive answer to fix this, even if it involves the CLI, pleas email me: mactechnm@gmail.com Thanks!
 
It certainly isn't as polished as it should be. Search isn't as good as Steve Jobs made it out to be--I can't even sort my search results by size or any other criteria than what I am given. Lame.
 
I'm happy with ma leopard.... the basic applications are up to the mark.... But i kno there r some negativity with third party applications... Overall its fne for me...
 
If you don't think Leopard had enough features, you are gonna hate Snow Leopard :). I don't know why I'm arguing with you, since your mind is made up, but Leopard may be biggest Mac OS update since 9-> OSX 10.1

You want features? Apple claims "300+" features for Leopard. Some of them are actually useful. Things that I use, off the top, are:

1) Ruby/Python preinstalled
2) Apache preinstalled
3) SQLite preinstalled
4) ACLs
5) Objective-C 2.0
6) Apple Remote Desktop (AKA Screen Sharing)
7) Tabs in Terminal
8) Super improved iChat A/V
9) Resizable partions
10) 100-fold improvement in system file operations and a central c library that implements those ops
11) Boot Camp
12) Web Clip
13) Almost forgot: TIME MACHINE

So what, Spaces and Stacks aren't too great. There's plenty of love underneath the hood. Personally I'm stoked for Snow Leopard if performance gains really come through.
 
You don't deserve an ounce of help. I'd rather give your e-mail address to a spam bot than help you.

I am a software developer, and I do it for a living. And I can't stand people like you. I love how people think they can just go ahead and set prices for software. Just because it's virtual and easily exploitable doesn't mean that you should control the price. The price is set for a reason... it's not some arbitrary value that's randomly selected with the intent of ripping you off. The price is set so that development can continue into the future and sufficient funds for further growth and development can be attained.

Apple hardly makes ANY money from software development as is. Look at all the people who torrented iWork & iLife '09... I'm willing to bet at least 25% of them (if not more) are and will steal future OS upgrades as well.

You're not a real technician. You should have your license revoked. You don't even know how to use google to fix small problems.

Do I know how to fix the view options so they stay put in Leopard? Yes. Am I going to tell you? No, not unless you buy the family pack just like every other honest person would do.
 
Leopard has improved a lot...

The little niggles with Finder haven't been fixed since they are design issues, but remember all the problems with video performance and 'snappiness' (boot & folder opening) in the first release?

Oh, and let's not forget the wireless problems that were there until 10.5.5, was it?

Apple definitely shipped too early. 10.5.2 should have been 10.5.0.
 
10. Yes, Firefox is better. Adblock = best addon ever.

12. Agree here too. Especially since you can't set specific windows to open in a specific view (there's an option to do it, but it doesn't work.)
 
You know, in defence of the OP, personal preferences are still valid reasons to be disappointed.
 
By and large, Leopard has gotten pretty decent. Two things still drive me insane:

1. The window server is buggy as hell. Cmd-` tweaks around with more windows than it should. Windows in the foreground suddenly in the background. Just weird stuff here.

2. X11 doesn't have nearly enough talent being invested in it. Jeremy Huddleston is a fantastic engineer, but just him and part of Ben Byer's attention isn't cutting it. X11 should be a first class app, updates should be in Software Update, and xquartz-wm should be open source.

The below issues have been in all versions of OS X:

3. No window management APIs exposed. Only through AppleScript usability hooks can a third party legitimately talk to the window server, sort of. Mercury Mover and other products either use these hooks or are using unpublished APIs for the window server access, but there should be published APIs for it.

4. Separation of HID input streams prevents one HID from acting as a modifier to another HID. This means foot pedals cannot modify the keyboard. ControllerMate is a fantastic piece of software, but it shouldn't be necessary to build out virtual keyboards for simple modifier keys.

5. Clamshell mode is a pain. I wish there was a setting more explicit than "put computer to sleep, plug stuff in, and pray it will work."

6. The continued obfuscation of the NFS/rpc stuff drives me insane. I haven't figured out how to get rpc.mountd to bind on multiple NICs on separate networks. Haven't spent a lot of time on this.

7. The Finder is getting better, but it's also still ridiculously slow copying large volumes. Copying 2.7 million files in the Finder? It's a joke. The blocking dialogs of, "hey we're 4 hours into this and I need a yes/no question answered before I continue" is insane. I try to avoid using the Finder as much as possible.

All of this is minor compared to the buggy window server.

However, Leopard is much better than it was 12 months ago.
 
I never admitted to anything. The other guy brought up the 'assumption' that I pirated Leopard. And so what if I did install it on more than one machine? Everyone here does, you all just don't have the balls to admit it.

No They Do Not. Your suggestion that I am a thief is not acceptable in fact it is probably libellous.
 
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