Anybody here with a hacked Wii or Xbox 360

[millerj123]

That's what I was asking you for
But by using their software you agree to their EULA which carries its own laws too.

Why would I waste time looking for something that doesn't exist?

Since you claim "against the law", show the law.

I'll say "raggedjimmi is right" if you can find it.

 

[millerj123]

It is illegal in the US to make "backup" copies or any other type of copies of software. The EULA of EVERY console GAME IN EXISTENCE specifically says you cannot make copies even for backup or archival purposes.

So lets recap, there is the EULA you are binded to that prevents it, also you are in violation of the DCMA when you make this so callled "backup".

Some people make a living off this industry, would you like it if someone was copying your work and taking away from your well being? I don't care if you can't control your kids, nor if you have no responsibility to take care of things, its illegal to make a copy of a game or movie for ANY reason.

Then, show the law. EULA's have not been tried in court.

So, let's recap: you attack me personally but have no accountability.

Was that your upbringing?

 

[e²Studios]

Then, show the law. EULA's have not been tried in court.

So, let's recap: you attack me personally but have no accountability.

Was that your upbringing?

EULA's have been tried in court, Blizzard tried and won in Arizona. Sony has tried and won on many occasion, as have other companies. Do your own research kid.

Furthermore, and the more scary part. What was your upbrining, if you don't get caught its not illegal? You are the one that has no responsibility or accountability for your actions. So if you steal a car and get away with it, its ok right? Cause that is exactly what you are saying right now. You are stealing, it is illegal and nothing you can say or hide behind will change that fact.

I'm done with this thread, you all can try to tell the ignorant folks here that can't seem to get it that illegal means illegal.

 

[millerj123]

EULA's have been tried in court, Blizzard tried and won in Arizona. Sony has tried and won on many occasion, as have other companies. Do your own research kid.

Furthermore, and the more scary part. What was your upbrining, if you don't get caught its not illegal? You are the one that has no responsibility or accountability for your actions. So if you steal a car and get away with it, its ok right? Cause that is exactly what you are saying right now. You are stealing, it is illegal and nothing you can say or hide behind will change that fact.

I'm done with this thread, you all can try to tell the ignorant folks here that can't seem to get it that illegal means illegal.

See, there you go, jumping to conclusions again. I've never said that stealing is okay, but your panties are all in a bunch.

 

[millerj123]

Discussions on illegal activity is clamped down upon in this forum.

Also is it me or does anyone else find that peeps hiding behind the term 'backup' is really annoying.

Okay, there appear to be at least two disconnects here.

To start with, let me say: I think piracy, theft and stealing are wrong. Unless something is free, you should pay for it if you use it. This is for e2.

Now, right and wrong are different than illegal/legal. Legal/illegal means there is a law about it.

A quick google on US law led me to: http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html There are several important facts:
"Under section 117, you or someone you authorize may make a copy of an original computer program if:

* the new copy is being made for archival (i.e., backup) purposes only;
* you are the legal owner of the copy; and
* any copy made for archival purposes is either destroyed, or transferred with the original copy, once the original copy is sold, given away, or otherwise transferred.

You are not permitted under section 117 to make a backup copy of other material on a computer's hard drive, such as other copyrighted works that have been downloaded (e.g., music, films)."

Now, what this means is that for software, you can make an archival copy as long as you either include it when you sell it, or destroy it when you no longer own the original. Note that I included the bit about this not including things on your hard drive. I don't want someone to claim I glossed over that.

So, if I make a backup copy for my own use and don't give it away, I'm not doing anything wrong, nor anything illegal.

If I give it away, I am breaking the law, thus something illegal.

After this, things get more complicated. e2 rants about EULA's. They are not laws, but are contracts. There are laws about contracts (Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA), but one of the problems with EULA's is that you can't see what it is until you open the package, at which point in many cases you can't return the product. Depending on the court, the outcome of the case is not a given.

Finally, for e2design whoever, I point you to MacRumors rules which you agreed to when you signed up for an account:
"Insults. Direct personal insult of another member, i.e., "You are an idiot." and all the variations. "

You have questioned my integrity, my parental abilities, and stated that I am a thief. You don't play by the rules, but expect others to do so. This is a hypocritical action. You claim to have googled, but if so, I don't see how you can come up with your conclusions if you did.

Once more: do you have any personal integrity? Can you play by the rules and have a discussion without namecalling?