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yup, and that is what drives me nuts - that AW can get the distance right and seems to be a very good overall device but yet, the GPS plots are never rendered following the course you took.

I had a longer ride earlier in the post where I also shared a snapshot of weird GPS plots in the AW5 but the overall distance and elevation climbed matched the Garmin 935 very closely. I even compared the HR graphs of both (since they are both wrist based) and the AW had no major concerns there either.

I wish the AW would just plot the right GPS track so it doesn't create some idea in me things are wrong.

** edit ** - I just realized I had my iPhone with me as well. Not sure how much that helped the AW with distances but I've done 2 or 3 of these tests recently while I decided what to keep.

In the end, the AW distances, calories, elevations, all looked very good but every time I looked at the GPS plot, I thought "look how far off that route is" so it created doubt that the reported numbers weren't right. It's only after comparing to another accepted good device that I saw where the disconnect was. My hope was to drop the 935 (since the battery is fading and it didn't have maps) and go with an AW5 / Wahoo set up. Now I think I am going 945.
The 945 looks like it’ll be a great watch as well! I’m just having a hard time leaving my fenix 5 in the dresser in exchange for the F6. Although the 6 has a bunch of new stuff it seems like the 5 is “good enough”
 
agreed. I concluded the same thing about my 935. Still working up the rationale to upgrade to a 945.
 
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agreed. I concluded the same thing about my 935. Still working up the rationale to upgrade to a 945.
It’s funny because I have over 3000 running (and a few walking) miles on this watch -as read through the odometer on the watch- and it seems to still be going very strong. Battery is holding up well and everything. Even the 3rd party bands from amazon are amazing. Just waiting on something to give on the F5.......
 
It’s funny because I have over 3000 running (and a few walking) miles on this watch -as read through the odometer on the watch- and it seems to still be going very strong. Battery is holding up well and everything. Even the 3rd party bands from amazon are amazing. Just waiting on something to give on the F5.......

Wow, Over 3000 miles running is impressive. Outstanding.
 
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I'm also considering to buy Garmin Fenix 6S Pro. But reading the different issue topics in Garmin forum have made me little bit cautious.
 
I have the 6 Pro and it’s fantastic. The Garmin forums at the moment seems to be swamped with a small number of people complaining continually.

Most of the users are very happy with their 6. Me included.
 
yup, and that is what drives me nuts - that AW can get the distance right and seems to be a very good overall device but yet, the GPS plots are never rendered following the course you took.

I had a longer ride earlier in the post where I also shared a snapshot of weird GPS plots in the AW5 but the overall distance and elevation climbed matched the Garmin 935 very closely. I even compared the HR graphs of both (since they are both wrist based) and the AW had no major concerns there either.

I wish the AW would just plot the right GPS track so it doesn't create some idea in me things are wrong.

** edit ** - I just realized I had my iPhone with me as well. Not sure how much that helped the AW with distances but I've done 2 or 3 of these tests recently while I decided what to keep.

In the end, the AW distances, calories, elevations, all looked very good but every time I looked at the GPS plot, I thought "look how far off that route is" so it created doubt that the reported numbers weren't right. It's only after comparing to another accepted good device that I saw where the disconnect was. My hope was to drop the 935 (since the battery is fading and it didn't have maps) and go with an AW5 / Wahoo set up. Now I think I am going 945.

I personally don't care about how good the track looks as long as the data is good so this is reassuring for me with regards my AW4. As I mentioned previously, I run the same 10Km route and get staggeringly close distances every time. As someone who was unsure about the AW initially it has been a pleasant surprise. Have you considered AW5 with Stryd?
 
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I have the 6 Pro and it’s fantastic. The Garmin forums at the moment seems to be swamped with a small number of people complaining continually.

Most of the users are very happy with their 6. Me included.
I’m generally happy with mine – the larger screen is fantastic, and the new running and recovery metrics are quite good – but I’m definitely having issues with optical HR monitoring. Mine takes a bit to settle in, and I get spikes...even during steady, easy runs. I’ve been emailing Garmin and sending them files (compared to my 245) so I’m hopeful its just a software issue.

Though I find the AW lacking as proper running watch compared to a Garmin, its optical HR sensor has always given me better data (once it starts working).
 
I personally don't care about how good the track looks as long as the data is good so this is reassuring for me with regards my AW4. As I mentioned previously, I run the same 10Km route and get staggeringly close distances every time. As someone who was unsure about the AW initially it has been a pleasant surprise. Have you considered AW5 with Stryd?
Honestly I am not very concerned about how the gps tracks flow either but like you I want to have accuracy and it seems both the fenixs and the newer aw are doing a great job with it. I do however love the data that garmin provides as far as my battery sleep etc.

Back when I was newer at running and getting all the “gear” I bought the garmin footpod, fenix and a RDynamics pod. That provides a TON of info. I ended up getting a tibial stress fracture on my right side during training. I had the data and looked into it and found that I was stepping on my right foot about 52-54% of the time. I was able to adjust given those metrics and With time off of course, I ended up better and had an idea of what I could possibly be doing wrong. Fortunately no more tibial stress Fx 😆
 
I'm also considering to buy Garmin Fenix 6S Pro. But reading the different issue topics in Garmin forum have made me little bit cautious.

Don't give too much weight to the Garmin forum complainers. I've had a dozen Garmin units. Just got my Fenix 6X sapphire and already ordered an additional Fenix 6. Internet forums favor negativity bias. And although legitimate issues can be found there, with Garmin sometimes its the individual configurations, use of extensive 3rd party applications or fringe use cases. Rarely have I had any of the issues discussed. Buy from a reputable dealer and understand their return policy.

The Fenix 6 line are great devices.
 
I ended up getting a second hand 935 for $225, and so far I love it. I’m still configuring it and playing with custom 3rd party watch faces! I downloaded one that like the F6 face and I think that’s my favorite right now.
I used it for a treadmill run today (first workout) and it was a little off on the pace, but I think that’s just because it has no information to work with.
Battery life is outstanding. Before this, I had a 38mm Series 3 Cellular. I could usually get through about a day and a half if I didn’t do any workouts. It came to me fully charged and after a day and a half, including a 30 minute run, I’m still at ~85%.
 
Yes

Got F3 from 2015 till 2017, then AW3 till 2019. Then was fed up with charging that thing daily, and them being (my sincere opinion) an extension to iPhone, not a self-sufficient tool.

Got myself F6x Sapphire. No complaints so far, apart from the price.
 
After dumping my Series 5, I'm back to my 645. I've tried the 245 before, and while it definitely has some features that improve on the 645, there are some elements of the 645 (design, ABC capabilities, Garmin Pay) that keep me coming back. Fenix 6 is a lovely device (I'd go 6S Sapphire) and if I can sell my 645 for a fair price, may try it. Until then, no complaints. Just markedly better running products than Apple Watch (despite not being nearly as capable, overall).
 
Yes

Got F3 from 2015 till 2017, then AW3 till 2019. Then was fed up with charging that thing daily, and them being (my sincere opinion) an extension to iPhone, not a self-sufficient tool.

Got myself F6x Sapphire. No complaints so far, apart from the price.
Aaaaahhhh, the piece of mind knowing that I can go weeks without charging F6x is so liberating. AW is a fantastic device but that battery is beyond horrible. I guess in a few years they will be converging more and more. AW will get better battery and Garmin will get better display and smart watch capabilities. We can only hope.
 
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I own a Garmin Fenix 6X Pro- I plan to use the Apple Watch series 5 cellular as a "safety" device. In other words, I plan to run with my Garmin on my wrist with the AW in a pouch or protective case.

If I get a call or, indeed, if I need to make one for whatever reason, I can easily do so with a device just the fraction of the size of my massive iPhone 11 Pro Max.

Anyone else with the same use case?

I have two Apple Watches and two Fenix 6 series watches. I wear my AW S4 SS also on longer runs since it has cellular. When wearing it I also use it for music since I have Apple Music and it's way easier than music on the Garmins.
 
I've ended up with both a Fenix 6X Sapphire, and a Fenix 6 Titanium Sapphire. Love them both. Fortunately I've kept my iOS to 13.1.2 and my Garmin Connect Mobile to 4.23. iOS 13.1.3 and/or GCM 4.24 have introduced syncing problems by many on the Garmin forums. Garmin is supposedly working on a fix for mid-November. Most units ship with firmware 3.0, and you'll want to disable automatic updates if you get one. I've avoided the iOS and Garmin updates, and both devices are working extremely well for me.

I really enjoy the Pulse Ox--which I'm using to monitor for sleep apnea. Also like respirations tracking, which is interesting. Found a watch face I love called "Data Lover", which if you pay 3 euros gives you weather updates every 15 mins including temp, wind speed and direction, and conditions, along with many customizable fields. It's been rock solid.

The F6X is great for activities with 8 data fields, and even the F6 with 6 fields is an improvement. Both have outstanding battery life in my case. I ordered a two pack of charging pucks from Amazon fo $8 I think, and they work well. I'm even using Garmin Coach to run a faster 5K after a 15 week plan and 4 runs per week.

I've put music on the Garmins for the first time, but you're limited to songs without DRM. Since I have Apple Music it's not ideal. Spotify works, but I've read about some recent Spotify syncing issues on the F6 series.

Edited to add: Ran for a little over an hour on Sunday with F6 and AW4, both starting from full charge. AW was playing music in addition to tracking run using Workouts. Garmin battery went down 2% and AW went down 23%. Garmin was connected to my Scosche HR strap, Garmin Tempe Sensor, Stryd Foot Pod (and on previous runs also the Plantronics headset) flawlessly the whole time.

Great devices despite some of the usual Garmin "beta" or "teething pains".
 
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Aaaaahhhh, the piece of mind knowing that I can go weeks without charging F6x is so liberating. AW is a fantastic device but that battery is beyond horrible. I guess in a few years they will be converging more and more. AW will get better battery and Garmin will get better display and smart watch capabilities. We can only hope.

Actually, you have it reversed. Apple is slated to get an upgraded display with micro LED, which will greatly improve the battery, being it has a higher resolution, increased brightness, but also has a far less power draw versus OLED.
 
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I've ended up with both a Fenix 6X Sapphire, and a Fenix 6 Titanium Sapphire. Love them both. Fortunately I've kept my iOS to 13.1.2 and my Garmin Connect Mobile to 4.23. iOS 13.1.3 and/or GCM 4.24 have introduced syncing problems by many on the Garmin forums. Garmin is supposedly working on a fix for mid-November. Most units ship with firmware 3.0, and you'll want to disable automatic updates if you get one. I've avoided the iOS and Garmin updates, and both devices are working extremely well for me.

I really enjoy the Pulse Ox--which I'm using to monitor for sleep apnea. Also like respirations tracking, which is interesting. Found a watch face I love called "Data Lover", which if you pay 3 euros gives you weather updates every 15 mins including temp, wind speed and direction, and conditions, along with many customizable fields. It's been rock solid.

The F6X is great for activities with 8 data fields, and even the F6 with 6 fields is an improvement. Both have outstanding battery life in my case. I ordered a two pack of charging pucks from Amazon fo $8 I think, and they work well. I'm even using Garmin Coach to run a faster 5K after a 15 week plan and 4 runs per week.

I've put music on the Garmins for the first time, but you're limited to songs without DRM. Since I have Apple Music it's not ideal. Spotify works, but I've read about some recent Spotify syncing issues on the F6 series.

Edited to add: Ran for a little over an hour on Sunday with F6 and AW4, both starting from full charge. AW was playing music in addition to tracking run using Workouts. Garmin battery went down 2% and AW went down 23%. Garmin was connected to my Scosche HR strap, Garmin Tempe Sensor, Stryd Foot Pod (and on previous runs also the Plantronics headset) flawlessly the whole time.

Great devices despite some of the usual Garmin "beta" or "teething pains".

You prefer F6X Sapphire or Titanium? What's the difference in battery time between F6x and F6Titanium? I salivated on Titanium model, but it having a smaller battery and couple couple of hundreds of $$ more, I went back to F6x Sapphire.
 
You prefer F6X Sapphire or Titanium? What's the difference in battery time between F6x and F6Titanium? I salivated on Titanium model, but it having a smaller battery and couple couple of hundreds of $$ more, I went back to F6x Sapphire.

Sorry for the delay...been hanging out in Garmin forums and Redditt/Garmin.....;-)

I prefer the F6X Sapphire this time. The lug width is shorter than previous 51mm models, making it more wearable, and my older eyes prefer the larger 1.4" screen. It's remarkable how much bigger it seems and shows more fields for activities. Since I do a mix of smart watch only mode, activities, night time pulse ox, I won't get the 21 days smart watch mode claimed, but will easily get 10+ days on the bigger model. Also won't get the 14 days claimed for the 47mm model, but easily over a week. I also prefer the 26mm band to case size ratio of the 51mm vs the 22mm to 47mm of the smaller watch. The new ribbed bands are much more grippy, and while harder to put on, they hold steady better.

I also just fell for the deal at Best Buy on a new F5X sapphire for $299, so I have three. This older one is now my "beater", and I'll wear it when I do dirty jobs and don't want to wear $800+. I'm stoked the "Data Lover" watch face is also supported on the F5X.
 
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„Every couple of weeks“? As a longtime Garmin user this is hard to believe. Not doing any outdoor sport with the Fenix?
I had to recharge at least once a week and battery life got worse from model to model. Was down to 3-4 days on the Forerunner 945 (though with new usage of Bluetooth music streaming).
 
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„Every couple of weeks“? As a longtime Garmin user this is hard to believe. Not doing any outdoor sport with the Fenix?
I had to recharge at least once a week and battery life got worse from model to model. Was down to 3-4 days on the Forerunner 945 (though with new usage of Bluetooth music streaming).

Yep been charging every couple of weeks on a regular basis.

Battery life is brilliant.
 
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