i found after buying the iphone and using it for a while i find i miss a nice camera i hate having to carry round my point and shoot camera i sold my sony ericsson cybershot phone and i some times wish i didnt i loved the fact i could take great quality snaps but on the other hand the i love the keyboard on the iphone and the internet browsing is great but iam not sure i can live without a great camera in my phone.
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Anyone else a little disappointed with the iphone
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I love the fact that it's an awesome touch-screen iPod, internet-in-your-pocket thingy-ma-bob, but as a PHONE, it's the worst phone I've ever owned. There's a laundry list of phone features it's missing and it concerns me that although Apple puts all this effort in the OS X touch platform with the App Store etc, they seem to be severely neglecting the PHONE part of it, which hasn't changed since they introduced it, with the exception of bug fixes. Even IF they add some of the missing functionality such as bluetooth file transfer, ability to forward sms's etc etc, I find it shocking that we have to wait over a year since the original iPhone to get those things.
For me personally I'm looking at switching to a BlackBerry Bold or Nokia E71 to use as a PHONE, to use in conjunction with an iPod touch for all the entertainment stuff, and would rather have the inconvenience of carrying awesome phone + iPod separately than crappy phone + iPod combined.
For me personally I'm looking at switching to a BlackBerry Bold or Nokia E71 to use as a PHONE, to use in conjunction with an iPod touch for all the entertainment stuff, and would rather have the inconvenience of carrying awesome phone + iPod separately than crappy phone + iPod combined.
I totally agree with you i love the ipod part of the phone and internet and there are alot of things i love about the phone but i feel i would be just as happy if not more if i just used my ipod touch and another phone the one i am looking at is the sony ericsson c905 cyer shot phone i know the cyber shot phones are great i have had many before i bought my iphone and i as i said in the post before i miss the great camera functions and i didnt think i would miss them as much as i do.
I wasn't really ever disappointed in the iPhone, I just got bored with it. I've moved onto a BlackBerry curve and will be getting a Bold as well.
Just today I sold one of my white 16GBs for $500 on eBay. Amazing that they sell for far more than what I paid for it. I'm tempted to sell my second one.
I'll miss it somewhat but then, I can always get another one someday.
Just today I sold one of my white 16GBs for $500 on eBay. Amazing that they sell for far more than what I paid for it. I'm tempted to sell my second one.
I'll miss it somewhat but then, I can always get another one someday.
Disappointed with my iPhone? You must be kidding. True, it's not the best phone around but the iPhone has become a necessary part of my daily life.
1. It signals me when I have an appointment (calendar).
2. I have my entire phone and address book at my fingertips.
3. I have every single digital picture I ever took since 1997 in the palm of my hand.
4. I have basically the yellow page at my disposal complete with a map telling me where to go.
5. I can get a weather report whenever I want.
....oh yeah, and its also a phone, a kick ass iPod and an interenet terminal.
Come on fellas. Comparitatively speaking back in the 70's we were using stone knives and bear skins. The iPhone is an amazing piece of technology and I appreciate having it every single day.
1. It signals me when I have an appointment (calendar).
2. I have my entire phone and address book at my fingertips.
3. I have every single digital picture I ever took since 1997 in the palm of my hand.
4. I have basically the yellow page at my disposal complete with a map telling me where to go.
5. I can get a weather report whenever I want.
....oh yeah, and its also a phone, a kick ass iPod and an interenet terminal.
Come on fellas. Comparitatively speaking back in the 70's we were using stone knives and bear skins. The iPhone is an amazing piece of technology and I appreciate having it every single day.
perhaps im in love with it because i have never had any other smartphone but this is the best phone i have owned, as for the crappy phone i think its based on location, at home i get 2 to 3 bars edge and it works fine for me, when i visit freinds i get steady 5 bars 3g inside and outside, and when im on the phone with my freind and shes going to work her trip drops calls constantly, probably because of the 3g edge confusion
1. You should probably double check your math.
2. I hope that you were on a train or something, and not driving. If you were driving please stop endangering the lives of others while on the road. I'd be willing to bet that "important" discussion could have waited an hour.
Perhaps not, but that's what it is primarily.
It is not a professional DSLR camera, or a full fledged laptop computer, or even a "netbook."
The iPhone is first and foremost, a device that lets you do the basics in the absence of the above devices, or when the above devices would be overkill. And I think it does that job really well.
Your argument ignores the fact that most smartphones that pack a lot of features end up doing them all rather poorly.
I've used other feature packed smartphones, and they would always have one or more of these flaws:
- Slow
- Bulky
- Unintuitive interface
- Performs the features poorly
- Frequent random reboots <---- every Palm Smartphone I ever had would do this.
- Unstable to the point where it would cause catastrophic data loss on a not-infrequent basis.
None of that has happened to me with the iPhone. Yes, apps crash from time to time, but it doesn't take the whole iPhone with it. An iPhone app crash has never rendered my phone unusable, or wiped my phone to the point where I'm utterly lost and can't find contacts, calendar or e-mail info, unlike my other smart phones I'd had prior.
Ever had a Blackberry systematically delete all of your e-mails (about several hundred) without you telling it to, silently, while in your pocket? I have. It's not fun. For every platform but the iPhone, I have a horror story based on personal experience.
I guess people can't be stopped from expecting their smartphone to do everything. But after trying them all, I've come to the conclusion that the realities of the form factor and demands on the device to meet human usability just inherently limits what it can do. You can have a device that does everything and does them all really badly, or you can have a targeted device that does just enough, and does it really, really well. For me, the iPhone represents the latter.
Considering that I was about ready to give up on smartphones until the iPhone came out, I'm very happy with that "just enough." And I haven't felt the urge to try something new, as I used to every other month with other models.
Compared to the iPhone, the other new devices don't bring anything "new" to the table. And so my iPhone still feels plenty "new" to me.
The people here with legitimate complaints are not expecting their iPhones to rival dedicated devices for a particular task, like a DSLR or laptop, they just wish that Apple had spent as much time implementing the basic features of the device as they did coming up with all the revolutionary aspects.
Sending and receiving standard MMS messages, for example, is something that can easily be added to the device, and represents a basic mainstream feature that is available on nearly every modern cellphone on the planet --- however, still has not seen the light of day 14 months after the introduction of the original iPhone! Cut and paste, voice dialing, text message forwarding, and many others also remain missing.
I think the majority of the frustration comes from Apple's schizophrenic behavior regarding their attention to detail. They always spend incredible time and resources developing and implementing every last innovative specific detail of their software, but at the same time they leave a couple gaping holes in the feature set that are common to nearly every other competing device. I'm not advocating for the type of "and-the-kitchen-sink" feature list driven development that plagues most smartphone manufacturers, but I'm sure most people would agree that it couldn't hurt for Apple to spend more time on the basic fundamental capabilities.
Similarly, they seem to have similar behavior with hardware. They generally use the most advanced and innovative components, industrial design, manufacturing processes, etc --- but again for some reason they include a few major deficiencies in the products! Take the iPhone .. it has a beautiful, (fairly) high-resolution 3.5" multi-touch screen, powerful processor and graphics chip, h264 video decoding, accelerometers and sensors galore, stylish aluminum casing, etc. But they use a crappy, low-quality camera without auto focus or flash!.
Nokia started with paper mulch, they kicked ass at that, they went on to wellington boots, they kicked ass at that. Then came the electricity generators and capacitors and they kicked ass at that too. Now they're committed to mobile phones and kicking ass.
Want a 7 megapixel camera? BUY A CANNON!
Want to tether to your laptop? BUY A 3G CARD FROM AT&T
Want to browse and edit documents on the go? BUY A LAPTOP
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my Iphone to death. But you have to be aware, it is just a phone (And it will get all these features in the future, but hey, if you need them know, why did you buy one for starters??)
Want a 7 megapixel camera? BUY A NOKIA NSERIES*
Want to tether to your laptop? BUY A NOKIA NSERIES
Want to browse and edit documents on the go? BUY A NOKIA NSERIES
* 5 for now, 7 or more likely 8 within 6 months.
The people here with legitimate complaints are not expecting their iPhones to rival dedicated devices for a particular task, like a DSLR or laptop, they just wish that Apple had spent as much time implementing the basic features of the device as they did coming up with all the revolutionary aspects.
Sending and receiving standard MMS messages, for example, is something that can easily be added to the device, and represents a basic mainstream feature that is available on nearly every modern cellphone on the planet --- however, still has not seen the light of day 14 months after the introduction of the original iPhone! Cut and paste, voice dialing, text message forwarding, and many others also remain missing.
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Hang on, give them a chance. They had to devote time to changing the design of the 3G, Edge and GPRS icons don't forget.
More AT&T crappy voice recording than IPhone
I have tried talking with AT&T about the lack of sound quality for the voice recording both for my greeting and when people leave me voice mail and they either do not care or are unable to do anything about it.
I have tried talking with AT&T about the lack of sound quality for the voice recording both for my greeting and when people leave me voice mail and they either do not care or are unable to do anything about it.
It would have been good to have some basic phone features like a flash, phone to phone bluetooth and MMS, but I can live without all that. Hopefully they will include those features in the next model
Obviously you understand nothing about optics. More megapixels will not make a tiny-as-can-be image sensor and tiny-as-can-be lens take considerably better pictures. To get considerably better images you need a larger lens at a minimum, which is contrary to making a smaller phone. If you need proof this is how you get it: get your hands on a 6 megapixel dslr and a 10 megapixel point-and-shoot. Take two "identical" shots and have them both printed at 16x20. Trust me, the difference will be night and day.
Now if you think a 6 inch thick phone is reasonable then I suppose we could engineer something, but I don't think it will be very popular.
The biggest problem for me is that Apple's naivety in the phone market really shows through with the iPhone.
Why not click on a received text, and be presented with a menu? A menu that contains 'forward', as Aurial stated, and, in particular, 'call this number'. How many times has a girlfriend, friend or family member texted, and you've thought, 'I'll just ring them back' - what a hassle!
Such a menu would also allow you to add a received call from an unknown number to your contacts menu easily.
Very simple things, made impossible by the software. I find that incredible.
Why not click on a received text, and be presented with a menu? A menu that contains 'forward', as Aurial stated, and, in particular, 'call this number'. How many times has a girlfriend, friend or family member texted, and you've thought, 'I'll just ring them back' - what a hassle!
Such a menu would also allow you to add a received call from an unknown number to your contacts menu easily.
Very simple things, made impossible by the software. I find that incredible.
His maths is fine; we can infer him to mean the 8 minutes wait after a dropped call happened only once.
Point 2 is just laughable; why not mind your own business? You've no idea how he was commuting.
Let's hope not all your posts are like the above.
Anyway; happy to say the problems of the quoted poster don't affect me. I do get quality issues, but no worse than anywhere else. That said, I'm usually stationary when using my phone, so that could be the reason.
no one said the iphone is supposed to replace a DSLR or a laptop. its obviously not meant to replace EVERYTHING. stretching the argument to make it sound ludicrous in your favour makes no sense in the context and scope i'm referring to.
yes, 'all-in-one' devices generally do each function rather poorly. for example the iphone! the PHONE part of the iphone is terrible in itself! compare the calendar, sms abilities etc etc to any other smartphone of today. the iphone calendar is rudimentary at best. repeating event options are piss poor. without jailbreaking you can't even forward sms messages like my old nokia can from 4 years ago.
i've definitely had apps freeze my iphone. i've had calls that for some reason i could not answer at all. firmware 2.1 is SLOW. the safari browser consistently crashes at least once or twice EVERY single day i use it. and i'm pretty much over all the crappy novelty apps available. no flash on the already garbage, lack of focusing camera on the iphone is just more fuel to the fire.
don't get me wrong, there are plenty of good things about the iphone and i find it overall acceptable. but if i had to do it all over again, i definitely would have gone the blackberry route instead.
I do understrand optics, thanks. The brief wasn't to find a DSLR though, it was to find a 7 megapixel camera. No one said anything about quality.
Hmm. Good question. There are some days I think I'd rather have my Blackberry back, but for the most part I'm happy with it. I do wish there was MMS and easy file transfer.
Also, I constantly feel like it's too fragile and one drop will cause it to shatter to a million pieces. It's also very slippery. Yes, there are a million-and-one cases for it, but that ads bulk to the device and it loses it's appeal, IMO.
I also miss the physical keyboard that I had with the BB. Makes typing MUCH faster I think.
However, web browsing with the iPhone is hands down better than anything else. And there are a ton of great apps, the sync with MobileMe and such work great (most of the time).
I dunno... I get tired of tech really quick and have thought of the BB Bold. I'm sure tho' I'd regret it and want my iPhone back.
Also, I constantly feel like it's too fragile and one drop will cause it to shatter to a million pieces. It's also very slippery. Yes, there are a million-and-one cases for it, but that ads bulk to the device and it loses it's appeal, IMO.
I also miss the physical keyboard that I had with the BB. Makes typing MUCH faster I think.
However, web browsing with the iPhone is hands down better than anything else. And there are a ton of great apps, the sync with MobileMe and such work great (most of the time).
I dunno... I get tired of tech really quick and have thought of the BB Bold. I'm sure tho' I'd regret it and want my iPhone back.
And my point is that 7 megapixel is an absolute waste with such a small sensor / lens combo. Anything over 3 megapixel in a phone is just useless bragging rights.
I don't think I'll ever get tired of the iPhone. I don't require all of the enterprise things that make it a supposed "business phone" so I can live without all of the features that most people complain about on a daily basis.
I've used several phone since getting the iPhone and it's never been more than a day before I was missing it. If they add the features that are missing now, great. If not, I'll continue to use it and know that there is nothing that compares to the sleek look of a glass face with no buttons and the continuous FREE updates coming straight from the company.
I've used several phone since getting the iPhone and it's never been more than a day before I was missing it. If they add the features that are missing now, great. If not, I'll continue to use it and know that there is nothing that compares to the sleek look of a glass face with no buttons and the continuous FREE updates coming straight from the company.
i love the iPhone BUT in the past month i've noticed a bunch o glitches.
The ones that really bother me is the call drops. I've noticed it happening to me a tad more now. Full signal - call drops.
My iPhone will not connect with my Alpina's Bluetooth system. Incoming calls never work. I can only make outgoing, maybe its a glitch on the "BMW" side.
App crashes. If I'm running Safari sometimes it will crash and exit out on its own. If I'm watching a youtube vid and I unplug my headphones it crashes the youtube app and exits and goes to iPod app. why? sometimes for no reason it goes to Phone while I'm in a game or something.
But I am hopeful these things will get fixed by next version. Overall i am still happy with the iPhone and plan never to use anything else (But my BB Bold for work). But Apple has a lot of work to make it more stable...
The ones that really bother me is the call drops. I've noticed it happening to me a tad more now. Full signal - call drops.
My iPhone will not connect with my Alpina's Bluetooth system. Incoming calls never work. I can only make outgoing, maybe its a glitch on the "BMW" side.
App crashes. If I'm running Safari sometimes it will crash and exit out on its own. If I'm watching a youtube vid and I unplug my headphones it crashes the youtube app and exits and goes to iPod app. why? sometimes for no reason it goes to Phone while I'm in a game or something.
But I am hopeful these things will get fixed by next version. Overall i am still happy with the iPhone and plan never to use anything else (But my BB Bold for work). But Apple has a lot of work to make it more stable...