But genuinely, what does it matter what they call it?
It is just a phone. Bored? Put it down for a while. It was not meant to provide 24/7 entertainment.
Absolutely. There are plenty of $100 Nokia devices floating around if a person wants to use one.If you're using your iPhone as "just a phone", I'd suggest you might be wasting your money.
What does android do?Hasn't iPhone been pretty much the same since the first one? What did the first one do?
1) surf the web
2) take pictures
3) text
4) phone calls
5) run apps.
Now, what does iPhone 17 do?
1) surf the web
2) take pictures
3) text
4) phone calls
5) run apps.
What on earth does this have to do with iOS and iPadOS having different marketing names?Because when Jobs returned to apple and simplified the product lineup, there was a good reason he killed the PowerBook Duo, PowerBook 2400c, PowerBook 5300, etc etc
Apple’s goal is to sell simplicity, ease of use, and something that just works.
Ah…this goes back to need versus want. Maybe I have wasted my money since 2009 with my first smartphone, considering all I use them for are calls, texts, some email and light web browsing/media streaming (when outside the house). I do use my bank apps on them. But aside from that, these are phones. Maybe they become something more when no longer a primary phone and are put to use doing something else.If you're using your iPhone as "just a phone", I'd suggest you might be wasting your money.
Ah…this goes back to need versus want. Maybe I have wasted my money since 2009 with my first smartphone, considering all I use them for are calls, texts, some email and light web browsing/media streaming (when outside the house). I do use my bank apps on them. But aside from that, these are phones. Maybe they become something more when no longer a primary phone and are put to use doing something else.
But, it's my money to waste on something that I want, versus something that I need. For me, I don't care if that's what others think. Because the need still gets met by what I got from the want.
My phone has not replaced my computers. And short of being able to do what my Mac Pro does or a life change, it never will. I use my phone as I described for convenience - and also because I don't take calls on my Mac and my Mac does not leave the house.What you describe sounds a lot like how most normies used a computer before smartphones replaced them. You certainly wouldn't be doing much email, light web browsing, banking or media streaming on something truly "just a phone". 😎

My phone has not replaced my computers. And short of being able to do what my Mac Pro does or a life change, they never will. I use my phone as I described for convenience - and also because I don't take calls on my Mac and my Mac does not leave the house.
I sit in front of this for most of the day. I assure you that my iPhone has not replaced my Mac.
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In this you are right. I've never been a normie in regards to computers, tech, etc. I'm Gen-X and there has been at least one computer in the house since 1980 when I was 10. I purposely went into a industry (graphic design) that is centered around computers.I think it's safe to say you're not a normie with that setup. 😛 By normie I mean people who used computers to do very basic tasks, not people who do more advanced work with multiple screens and machines.
I consider smartphones to be a degraded experience compared to a desktop or laptop. It is the smartphone users who are the normies. Getting excited over an uber simplistic touch UI as on the iPhone is the most normie thing in the universe. It is the white guy wearing shorts showing off his Corvette at the car show of the computing world.
pretty much but all phones are boring now. the only new tech device that's excited me in years is the Vision Pro
that's wild there are still places that don't have it. I've had mine for 2 and a half years now. I wonder if they ever plan to do a full release then.I really want to buy an Apple Vision Pro, just waiting for Apple to release it officially in Switzerland. Don’t know what’s the hold up.
That's okay. I'm the old guy now at 55. My kids on the other hand are 22 and 18 and they use a laptop as their primary device - despite having iPhones. I guess that's because I handed them laptops first at 5 and 3 years of age instead of a phone.But using a laptop instead of an iPhone or iPad is becoming increasingly small every year.
that's wild there are still places that don't have it. I've had mine for 2 and a half years now. I wonder if they ever plan to do a full release then.
That's okay. I'm the old guy now at 55. My kids on the other hand are 22 and 18 and they use a laptop as their primary device - despite having iPhones. I guess that's because I handed them laptops first at 5 and 3 years of age instead of a phone.
What was I thinking?! 😉