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the snail paced incremental updates, the AI fiasco, intentionally grotesque design, recent price gouging (of apple products in general) - anyone else have general iPhone & Apple fatigue and just losing all interest?
Not really. It’s a tool, I don’t need my tools to be exciting — that’s what I have hobbies for. I’m not heavily dependant on ram and storage so Apple’s price increases wont actually affect me all that much, and I don’t really see any other options that would offer similar levels of quality with as robust of an ecosystem.
 
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the snail paced incremental updates, the AI fiasco, intentionally grotesque design, recent price gouging (of apple products in general) - anyone else have general iPhone & Apple fatigue and just losing all interest?
I was never an iPhone enthusiast. I've owned two iPhones just coz I needed a phone. (SE1 used three years followed by iPhone 7 used for seven years). I skipped most of the iPhone models. I never upgraded an iPhone just coz there was a newer model out and never coz I'm on a "3-year upgrade cycle." I stopped using the SE1 coz the battery swelled enough to pop the case open. Used landlines and "dumb" cellphones prior to the iPhones. I recently switched to a Samsung A17 ($200 new, unlocked) paired with my $15/month Mint mobile plan.

I have been more of a Mac enthusiast since the 1990s but my interest in Macs has waned in recent years. Currently have the 2020 M1 Air 8/256. Brilliant hardware. But macOS itself is getting weirder and dumber all the time, so I plan on bailing on Mac and switching to PC hardware running Linux/BSD next time I get a computer. Bailing because of macOS, not really coz of the Mac hardware.
 
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The complete failure to produce a competent implementation of AI is the biggest thing that's frustrating me. After the first disastrous attempt in iOS 18, I just turned "Apple Intelligence" off and waited for two years. I told myself, "At lease Siri is still able to consistently play my favorite songs without any massive malfunctions." After WWDC2026 I felt a twinge of hope and jumped back in.

Now when I say "Siri, play my favorite songs," it plays, more often than not, the song "Favorite Songs" by a never-heard-of artist called spookybands. The bar couldn't have been any lower for Siri, yet somehow Apple has managed to slip under it...or maybe I'm just a pie-eyed Steve Jobs devotee who still doesn't appreciate the superior supply chain value that Tim Cook brings to the table. 😂

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LLMs are not nor ever will be actually intelligent. Gotta keep expectations low.
 
When I bought my current 16PM twenty months ago it was my first iPhone since the 3GS, so...not yet. But, like others here, I'm experiencing a general fatigue with technology and no longer bore my wife with enthusiastic babble when a new piece of kit hits the market.
 
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When I bought my current 16PM twenty months ago it was my first iPhone since the 3GS, so...not yet. But, like others here, I'm experiencing a general fatigue with technology and no longer bore my wife with enthusiastic babble when a new piece of kit hits the market.
This I feel is an after-effect of convergence. When your phone is everything, what happens to everything else? The feeling isn't helped by the techno-nihilism the industry seems to be pushing as its narrative. Its hard to get excited about the future when AI ***** is everywhere and nobody is taking any bold creative risks.
 
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Correct.

It just so frustrating.
Human hands have not changed sizes, and it's insane to have no options for anything super pocketable and lightweight for essential usages.
I was resistant to the larger phone trend for a while. My hands didn’t change size, but my eyesight did get worse. Now I want a bigger phone.
Just a reminder that if the title/topic of a given thread doesn't appeal or apply to you, participation is not mandatory.

For example, if you do NOT have iPhone fatigue you are not obligated to participate in here at all.

One may always "scroll right by". It's a wonderful option to have.

😂 😊
Where’s the fun in creating a set of echo chambers?
Thank you, that's very nice of you to say. And I agree with you on how larger displays change things.
I thought I wanted more and larger screens until I got two 28” 4k monitors. Much to my surprise I have found that they’re overkill, and often leave one turned off until I specifically need it!
 
Just switched back after YEARS on android and Google Pixel. I am not fatigued, I am relieved. Carplay just works where android auto wouldn't. It connects FAST. My pixel wouldn't connect about 30% of the time, requiring me to switch bluetooth on and off. Siri, while perhaps less capable, reacts significantly faster than Gemini. It does all the little stuff I use routinely with no issues that Gemini was struggling with. Timers. Texting. Calling.

I was worried about missing the google call screening, but Apple's screening has been fine. I still miss Android things like the granular volume, swipe to go back in ANYTHING (so fast!), the way Google photos backed up my photos.

But iMessage is better. Airdrop is smooth and fast. And the apps - my god the apps - ALL of them (that I've tried) perform better on the iPhone.

biggest thing that sucks - the case I have for my iphone 17 has great protection the camera hump. But it raises the phone when lying flat JUST enough to turn the sub-par wireless charger in my subaru crosstrek into a useless, expensive gadget. Might try switching back to a Mous case to see if I can get it to work reliably again. Cases are so expensive, damn.
 
Just switched back after YEARS on android and Google Pixel. I am not fatigued, I am relieved. Carplay just works where android auto wouldn't. It connects FAST. My pixel wouldn't connect about 30% of the time, requiring me to switch bluetooth on and off. Siri, while perhaps less capable, reacts significantly faster than Gemini. It does all the little stuff I use routinely with no issues that Gemini was struggling with. Timers. Texting. Calling.

I was worried about missing the google call screening, but Apple's screening has been fine. I still miss Android things like the granular volume, swipe to go back in ANYTHING (so fast!), the way Google photos backed up my photos.

But iMessage is better. Airdrop is smooth and fast. And the apps - my god the apps - ALL of them (that I've tried) perform better on the iPhone.

biggest thing that sucks - the case I have for my iphone 17 has great protection the camera hump. But it raises the phone when lying flat JUST enough to turn the sub-par wireless charger in my subaru crosstrek into a useless, expensive gadget. Might try switching back to a Mous case to see if I can get it to work reliably again. Cases are so expensive, damn.

More and more Android users are switching to iPhone, more and more will this September with iOS 27 and the new iPhones. 🍻
 
Just out of interest, what are you doing with these devices? (if you care to share...)

That's like 6 mobile phones.
Ah, finally someone asked, LOL!

The three on the right (6s and the 2x iPhone 5) are used to monitor Macs through iStat Viewer (a discontinued Bjango iOS app that works with iStat Server on the Mac to be monitored). The iPad Mini on the far right is just set there. Usually it's used in the car for GPS/Nav. But it's hot in Phoenix right now and I don't want to kill the iPad as it goes on a dash mount.

The two phones stacked are my 6s+ and 6+. The 6s+ is a backup phone to my 11 Pro Max. It has it's own line. The 6+ I got a couple years ago to replace the 6+ I turned in to T-Mobile in 2015 when I switched carriers.

The phone by the black keyboard is my Pixel 3a XL. I use it and the 6+ to stream music to my headsets.

Finally, the two larger iPads (6th gen on the left and 7th gen in the center) are used for streaming any media content I wish. I also use the 7th gen for looking at any documents I may want to view while I'm working away on the Mac.

The 7th gen was not planned. I bought it for my daughter, but it turned out to have a defective home button and volume keys so I got her a replacement and kept this one. It's connected to the magic keyboard to get around the home button/volume key issues.

PS. I also have a 4, a 4s and a 3GS that aren't usually on, so aren't in the picture.
 
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I thought I wanted more and larger screens until I got two 28” 4k monitors. Much to my surprise I have found that they’re overkill, and often leave one turned off until I specifically need it!
Everyone is different. I'm still in a large monitor phase and have been since 1984. 😉

Recently, my Mac Pro had been giving me trouble. I am fortunate that with the displays I received last year from a forum member here, they also included a MacPro 4,1 that aside from CPU speed is a duplicate of mine. And it has already been upgraded to a 5,1 like mine as well. So, swapping in ram, drives and video cards was basically all I needed to do to solve my issues and keep my large displays functional.

All of that said, I do see a time coming soon (5-10 years) where the MP gets replaced with a Mac Mini and I scale back to two or three monitors. I do not believe I will ever just go to one monitor, no matter how large that display will be. I just prefer the convenience of having windows from different apps open on separate monitors.

I'm a graphic designer, so at a minimum I'm switching back and forth between my layout app and Photoshop or Illustrator. Multiple displays have meaning for me.
 
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I have been more of a Mac enthusiast since the 1990s but my interest in Macs has waned in recent years. Currently have the 2020 M1 Air 8/256. Brilliant hardware. But macOS itself is getting weirder and dumber all the time, so I plan on bailing on Mac and switching to PC hardware running Linux/BSD next time I get a computer. Bailing because of macOS, not really coz of the Mac hardware.
Why not get the new Mac hardware then just erase the MacOS on it and install Linux/BSD on it that way you enjoy the hardware and install the software of choice? Is it too difficult to do this?
 
Why not get the new Mac hardware then just erase the MacOS on it and install Linux/BSD on it that way you enjoy the hardware and install the software of choice? Is it too difficult to do this?

I have tried that on my Intel Mac and it does work ok. Asahi Linux and Fedora also run on some M-series Macs. There's a lot of PC options though.
 
Just out of interest, what are you doing with these devices? (if you care to share...)

That's like 6 mobile phones.
Quoting you again…

Streaming an ambient music video on YouTube on the 7th gen iPad, while browsing on my Mac. Audio is going to the Bluetooth enabled soundbar behind the iPad (right behind that sword in the background, but in front of the monitor).

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Monitoring Macs…Youngren40 is a 2011 MBA sitting on my desk (clamshell mode, no external display) and Youngren14 is my Mac Pro. Technically, I could just look in the menubar on my MP, but I generally prefer what I'm doing here.

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I remember thinking this way when I was younger. I always wanted the latest and greatest. Now I'm an old man and all I want is stability - these are tools, nothing more, nothing less. And I appreciate that the iPhone is very stable, works well, lasts me days on a charge, and could probably last me 5 years+ with usage before needing to upgrade.

I don't like tech that is always changing - I used to when I was younger. But I got more important things to do now and a lot of the new ... stuff... coming out is a lot more inconvenient to use than not. Lot of the new stuff today is designed to grab as much attention and as much time out of your life as it can - not improve it.
Very well said and accurate.
 
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Mentally I'm done with iphones and apple watches. With iphones I am bored to death of ios, I think the keyboard is horrendous, and the gesture navigation system is really poor compared to Android's on screen navigation bar. Six years ago I had hit the point were I was bored with Android and made the switch after a long time with Android, I am totally ready to switch back to Android when I get my next phone.

I currently have a Macbook Pro and a Chromebook at home. First time in decades I no longer have a Windows pc. I am happy with Mac and Chromebook and plan to stay with them going forward. If I had to choose between just one when I buy a new computer I am not sure which I would choose as I really like them both. Windows has become garbage to me. Its not that I am bored with it, its that it has become that bad of an OS to me.

I like my Air Pod Pro 2nd gen, but after using Air Pod Pro's for I think six years now I have to say I want to give Bose a try for something different. Plus, by the time I will need a new pair of earbuds I'll be back on Android anyways.

Apple has some nice products (Mac, Apple TV, AirPod Pro for example) but I think their most popular, the iphone, is the worst and most boring of their products. So I will continue to use select Apple products going forward but for my main device, a smartphone, Android is far superior and the way forward for me.
 
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Mentally I'm done with iphones and apple watches. With iphones I am bored to death of ios, I think the keyboard is horrendous, and the gesture navigation system is really poor compared to Android's on screen navigation bar. Six years ago I had hit the point were I was bored with Android and made the switch after a long time with Android, I am totally ready to switch back to Android when I get my next phone.

I currently have a Macbook Pro and a Chromebook at home. First time in decades I no longer have a Windows pc. I am happy with Mac and Chromebook and plan to stay with them going forward. If I had to choose between just one when I buy a new computer I am not sure which I would choose as I really like them both. Windows has become garbage to me. Its not that I am bored with it, its that it has become that bad of an OS to me.

I like my Air Pod Pro 2nd gen, but after using Air Pod Pro's for I think six years now I have to say I want to give Bose a try for something different. Plus, by the time I will need a new pair of earbuds I'll be back on Android anyways.

Apple has some nice products (Mac, Apple TV, AirPod Pro for example) but I think their most popular, the iphone, is the worst and most boring of their products. So I will continue to use select Apple products going forward but for my main device, a smartphone, Android is far superior and the way forward for me.
I have a Pixel 3a XL and I used that for 9 months before coming back to iOS. Just wanted to try Android in 2020 and see if it had improved any from early days.

I prefer iOS and am not bored by it. But to be fair to you, I don't use my PRIMARY device as a substitute for a computer, TV or game console. And any of my iOS devices I am using are just to supplement my Mac Pro. They aren't replacing it.

I do love the fact that even though my Pixel is stuck on Android 12, all the apps I have on it are up to date. I don't have all my eggs in one basket with Apple either, so coming and going between Android and iOS isn't a hassle for me as I largely use Google's services on all my devices/computers.
 
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I have a Pixel 3a XL and I used that for 9 months before coming back to iOS. Just wanted to try Android in 2020 and see if it had improved any from early days.

I prefer iOS and am not bored by it. But to be fair to you, I don't use my PRIMARY device as a substitute for a computer, TV or game console. And any of my iOS devices I am using are just to supplement my Mac Pro. They aren't replacing it.

I do love the fact that even though my Pixel is stuck on Android 12, all the apps I have on it are up to date. I don't have all my eggs in one basket with Apple either, so coming and going between Android and iOS isn't a hassle for me as I largely use Google's services on all my devices/computers.
While my phone is my "primary" device, what I meant by that is I only use it for phone things but I happen to use it more than any of my other devices. My wife and I own several high end Samsung tv's and couldn't imagine watching movies/shows/sports or playing video games on anything other than the tv's. Computers are still our main computing devices. Yet I still put more hours per day on my phone that any other device thus why I called it my primary device.
 
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Everyone is different. I'm still in a large monitor phase and have been since 1984. 😉

Recently, my Mac Pro had been giving me trouble. I am fortunate that with the displays I received last year from a forum member here, they also included a MacPro 4,1 that aside from CPU speed is a duplicate of mine. And it has already been upgraded to a 5,1 like mine as well. So, swapping in ram, drives and video cards was basically all I needed to do to solve my issues and keep my large displays functional.

All of that said, I do see a time coming soon (5-10 years) where the MP gets replaced with a Mac Mini and I scale back to two or three monitors. I do not believe I will ever just go to one monitor, no matter how large that display will be. I just prefer the convenience of having windows from different apps open on separate monitors.

I'm a graphic designer, so at a minimum I'm switching back and forth between my layout app and Photoshop or Illustrator. Multiple displays have meaning for me.
After decades of wanting more and larger screens, now that I have them, I’ve been really surprised at how much I don’t like them. They’re 4k Samsung monitors too, so they’re not bad screens!

There are circumstances where I do have them both going, plus my MacBook’s screen, plus my iPad Air 2, when I’m working on certain types of job, when I need access to a whole lot of information, but when I’m studying I only use one, plus my MacBook.

What I am keen to upgrade is my iPad. A 13” iPad would be super useful to me.
 
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After decades of wanting more and larger screens, now that I have them, I’ve been really surprised at how much I don’t like them. They’re 4k Samsung monitors too, so they’re not bad screens!

There are circumstances where I do have them both going, plus my MacBook’s screen, plus my iPad Air 2, when I’m working on certain types of job, when I need access to a whole lot of information, but when I’m studying I only use one, plus my MacBook.

What I am keen to upgrade is my iPad. A 13” iPad would be super useful to me.
We're just different is all. Not a bad thing, just different.

I get you, but for me, having several large displays makes me happy. That'll change at some point in the future. But for now I get a deep satisfaction from it.
 
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Did you mean to say “subscription fatigue” by any chance? The phone is a communicator and a media consumption device for most (unlike that person above with 8 phones on their desk used for cooler things than I will ever do). I’m not saying content should be free. But the subscriptions galore has killed the technology vibe for me. The phone itself is okay.
 
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