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This is what has gotten me over the years and likely why u often have switched between Android and iOS. I have read the forums way too much. I've now unplugged from all forums Android and it definitely helps!

It happens a lot. Back when digital cameras were young people started obsessing over a stuck pixel because of the (taking apicture with the cap on and making it all black) when it actuality most you could not even see in photos.
 
I upgraded to the 6 plus but think both are great phones.

I think your issues with the 6 are non problems though. I've had the phone since launch and the protruding lens has never been an issue. Also even when using the phone without a case, it's from the front. You never see the bands.
 
I tried to stick with a 5s, but after having two, I just didn't really ever like it. My first iPhone however, it was the 5c. That device is still my favorite ever. If it wasn't for the fact that the 6 has extra bands that help me get signal in places I didn't use to (T-Mobile), I'd still be with my 5c. I'm hoping and wishing on pipe dreams that there will be a 6c.
 
Reason for not upgrading to the 6/6+: ... Fugly. Fugly bands. Fugly, protruding camera.

Exactly my thoughts. Apple's first post - Jobs guided designs are pretty poor. The antenna bands are plainly bad design and the protruding camera is a compromise on the part of the design team.

It's one of those clear cases of the industrial designers and the engineers came to an impasse and Cook didn't have the balls to make the right design decision. Yes in the grand scheme of things it's insignificant because 99% of people will use a case, but it just demonstrates that Apple is no longer striving for perfection and just 'good enough'.

The only other design to be released post Jobs is the Apple Watch which is flawed and Marc Newson influenced and the Mac Pro which although quite quirky, still looks like a bin and is obviously pulled from Ive's design portfolio circa 2001. (i.e. it shares significant design cues from the the G4 iMac and likely was a rejected G4 cube design)

I think Ive is an excellent designer, but like every designer, needs someone to call him out when something isn't good enough. Jobs did that excellently and with this crisis of a lack of guidance, Ive pulled in more design 'talent' in the form of Marc Newson, who although will bring a very different design approach to the company, is only a good designer, not a great designer.

One can easily see Newsons design portfolio and collaboration will bring back the fun and playfulness of the Apple designs of the late 90s, early 2000s, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Newson isn't a strong enough designer to guarantee that design success, and Ive has slipped too comfortably into an attitude of fastidious engineering precision over creative design. That Leica camera is a good demonstration of the things to come from Apple in the near future.

Rant over. :p
 
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My launch day iPhone 5 is out of contract and still does everything I expect it to do. So, no need to hand Apple hundreds of dollars to upgrade. I'll wait to see what the 6S brings to the table next year. If I perceive that grade to be worth hundreds of dollars, I may go for that. If not, I may hold on until iPhone 7.
 
Upgraded to a 6 plus but don't have the heart to sell my 5. Its so small and cute.:p I have a multi-SIM plan, so its great for tossing in my pocket but have to admit once you get used to a big screen the 4" seems very constrained.

For those where portability is the most important factor, the 5/5s is hard to beat.
 
Exactly my thoughts. Apple's first post - Jobs guided designs are pretty poor. The antenna bands are plainly bad design and the protruding camera is a compromise on the part of the design team.

It's one of those clear cases of the industrial designers and the engineers came to an impasse and Cook didn't have the balls to make the right design decision. Yes in the grand scheme of things it's insignificant because 99% of people will use a case, but it just demonstrates that Apple is no longer striving for perfection and just 'good enough'.

The only other design to be released post Jobs is the Apple Watch which is flawed and Marc Newson influenced and the Mac Pro which although quite quirky, still looks like a bin and is obviously pulled from Ive's design portfolio circa 2001. (i.e. it shares significant design cues from the the G4 iMac and likely was a rejected G4 cube design)

I think Ive is an excellent designer, but like every designer, needs someone to call him out when something isn't good enough. Jobs did that excellently and with this crisis of a lack of guidance, Ive pulled in more design 'talent' in the form of Marc Newson, who although will bring a very different design approach to the company, is only a good designer, not a great designer.

One can easily see Newsons design portfolio and collaboration will bring back the fun and playfulness of the Apple designs of the late 90s, early 2000s, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but Newson isn't a strong enough designer to guarantee that design success, and Ive has slipped too comfortably into an attitude of fastidious engineering precision over creative design. That Leica camera is a good demonstration of the things to come from Apple in the near future.

Rant over. :p

you're not serious are you ? such a lame excuse to not upgrade to a new iPhone. you guys got so pampered. they've given you the moon and now you want the stars. all i see and hear in this forum is bickering, complains, about the new iPhone. that's all apple has to offer and if you're not satisfied, move on and get another phone or jump ship and go to android. i like all iPhones that have been released and to me every new iPhone is an improvement to the old one. i rest my case. ciao.....
 
you're not serious are you ? such a lame excuse to not upgrade to a new iPhone. you guys got so pampered. they've given you the moon and now you want the stars. all i see and hear in this forum is bickering, complains, about the new iPhone. that's all apple has to offer and if you're not satisfied, move on and get another phone or jump ship and go to android. i like all iPhones that have been released and to me every new iPhone is an improvement to the old one. i rest my case. ciao.....
Why do I have to move on? I have a perfectly functional iPhone 5 in the exact color and capacity that I wanted and it does everything I ask it to very well. My only complaint about it is that I was unable to keep it on iOS 6 when I had to replace it under AC+.

So, I don't like the iPhone 6/6+. I hate the 4/4S too, but like the 3GS very much. Just because I don't like them though means I must abandon the one I DO like and turn over my Apple fan card?

Nah. Sorry. I'm sticking with my iPhone 5.
 
Why do I have to move on? I have a perfectly functional iPhone 5 in the exact color and capacity that I wanted and it does everything I ask it to very well. My only complaint about it is that I was unable to keep it on iOS 6 when I had to replace it under AC+.

So, I don't like the iPhone 6/6+. I hate the 4/4S too, but like the 3GS very much. Just because I don't like them though means I must abandon the one I DO like and turn over my Apple fan card?

Nah. Sorry. I'm sticking with my iPhone 5.

Same, love my iPhone 5. It's an amazing phone and the black slate color is the best out of all. Never gonna sell it.
 
Same, love my iPhone 5. It's an amazing phone and the black slate color is the best out of all. Never gonna sell it.

I have the 6+ and to me the upgrades over my old iPhone 5 are the insane battery life, much improved cell reception, bigger screen, and the awesome loudspeaker.

To be fair though, the negatives are that my old iPhone 5 was MUCH more pocketable, great for one-handed use, and not much slower than my 6+.

If you don't crave the bigger screen, you live and work in areas of good signal strength, don't mind charging more frequently, and don't listen to much music using the loudspeaker then the iPhone 5 is still a very decent smartphone *and* it packs the same amount of RAM. Heck, it actually does the annoying tab and app reloading thing less often than the 6+.
 
I'm happy with my 5, even though the screen clicks and my battery meter is broken and hard to calibrate. Only thing is my carrier doesn't support the LTE band on my iPhone.
 
I have a 32gb iPhone 5s as eyoungren said the iphone 6 and 6+ just have too many design flaws. I love my 5s and I probably won't change this phone for another 3-4 years all being well.

Let us hope I can get some pre-elop nokia throwback reliability from my 5s.
 
iPhone 5, Black/Slate 64GB.

Reasons for not upgrading to the 5S: No Black. Closest is Space Gray. The upgrades might have been compelling had the option for black been there.

Reason for not upgrading to the 6/6+: No Black. Closest is Space Gray. Fugly. Fugly bands. Fugly, protruding camera.

Antenna bands? No idea, I have a nice case. the case also protrudes past the camera which is good. Those two issues are largely nullified, but if you prefer no case, yets, good points
 
you're not serious are you ? such a lame excuse to not upgrade to a new iPhone. you guys got so pampered. they've given you the moon and now you want the stars. all i see and hear in this forum is bickering, complains, about the new iPhone. that's all apple has to offer and if you're not satisfied, move on and get another phone or jump ship and go to android. i like all iPhones that have been released and to me every new iPhone is an improvement to the old one. i rest my case. ciao.....

I was simply on a industrial design rant, but yeah, with the state of technology being pretty advanced, there isn't much that my iPhone 5 can't do compared to an iPhone 6, save for NFC and a fingerprint scanner. Sure I'll upgrade if/when my current phone fails me, but it certainly won't be to an iPhone 6 because the design is poor on many levels.

With respect to you, as you say all you read on this forum are complaints about the new iPhone - there must be a reason for that. For every person that is embracing these new oversize phones, there is someone who finds them objectionable in regards to design / fragility / size. I know that Apple don't trawl these forums, but despite 'record sales' at least they must be aware that a good percentage of their patrons feel that this years efforts simply aren't good enough, and that they need to do better.

Everyone is different, but right now in my subjective opinion, the 4S was the best designed phone Apple has produced, and weighing all design considerations together, the 6 is probably the worst.
 
I have the 6+ and to me the upgrades over my old iPhone 5 are the insane battery life, much improved cell reception, bigger screen, and the awesome loudspeaker.

To be fair though, the negatives are that my old iPhone 5 was MUCH more pocketable, great for one-handed use, and not much slower than my 6+.

If you don't crave the bigger screen, you live and work in areas of good signal strength, don't mind charging more frequently, and don't listen to much music using the loudspeaker then the iPhone 5 is still a very decent smartphone *and* it packs the same amount of RAM. Heck, it actually does the annoying tab and app reloading thing less often than the 6+.

The 4 inch screen size for me is perfect and I usually charge once every 2 days. Cell reception is not a problem for me and I never use the loudspeaker (phone is always on vibrate too) :D I do agree that it is a good thing that the iPhone 5 has the same amount of RAM as the 6, meaning that it's not very behind performance-wise.
 
The 4 inch screen size for me is perfect and I usually charge once every 2 days. Cell reception is not a problem for me and I never use the loudspeaker (phone is always on vibrate too) :D I do agree that it is a good thing that the iPhone 5 has the same amount of RAM as the 6, meaning that it's not very behind performance-wise.

I feel that the iPhone 5 will end up having the longest shelf life out of the 5/5S/6/6+
It packs the same RAM and it is this which I feel is the Achilles heel for the iPhone 6 when it comes to longevity. The next iPhone is almost certain to have more RAM and this will leave the group of phones with 1GB trailing. So the iPhone 5 with its fast processor and 1GB of RAM will have kept the pace through two further generations, and I really don't see the i6/6+ having that kind of longevity. If they do of course, the iPhone 5 will be right with them.
 
I am still happy with my 5 and 5S as phones, though I also own an iPhone 6 which is my primary phone.

Although the camera protrudes and the antenna bands are notable, I don't share the opinion that they are ugly as many do.

The iPhone 6 still feels like a solid phone to me. It's light but sturdy with top end build quality. The extra screen estate, once you get used to it, is superb. I love this phone in that regard.

That said, I may gift my iPhone 6 to a family member and step back to my iPhone 5 or 5S as my primary phone again. I would not feel bad about that, as the 5 works perfectly on ios 8.1.2, and at times I do miss true comfort in using one hand with the phone - plus it doesn't hurt that the Black & Slate iPhone 5 is such a slick looking phone!

I think the iPhone 6 is a great phone however, with the larger screen and the improved battery life makes it a solid upgrade too. I feel each iPhone can be held in its own merits as a great phone. I recently sold my 3GS and it ran quite nicely on iOS 6, and for the time I used it, it worked perfectly with respect to sending texts and making calls. I have used my iPhone 4S for fun intermittently, and it too remains a fantastic phone.

Those who wish to celebrate the 5 or 5S as their preferred phones should be given that chance, and they are well made phones with their own set of flaws that seem to have been ironed out for the most part thanks to Apple's replacement programs.
 
I am still happy with my 5 and 5S as phones, though I also own an iPhone 6 which is my primary phone.

Although the camera protrudes and the antenna bands are notable, I don't share the opinion that they are ugly as many do.

The iPhone 6 still feels like a solid phone to me. It's light but sturdy with top end build quality. The extra screen estate, once you get used to it, is superb. I love this phone in that regard.

That said, I may gift my iPhone 6 to a family member and step back to my iPhone 5 or 5S as my primary phone again. I would not feel bad about that, as the 5 works perfectly on ios 8.1.2, and at times I do miss true comfort in using one hand with the phone - plus it doesn't hurt that the Black & Slate iPhone 5 is such a slick looking phone!

I think the iPhone 6 is a great phone however, with the larger screen and the improved battery life makes it a solid upgrade too. I feel each iPhone can be held in its own merits as a great phone. I recently sold my 3GS and it ran quite nicely on iOS 6, and for the time I used it, it worked perfectly with respect to sending texts and making calls. I have used my iPhone 4S for fun intermittently, and it too remains a fantastic phone.

Those who wish to celebrate the 5 or 5S as their preferred phones should be given that chance, and they are well made phones with their own set of flaws that seem to have been ironed out for the most part thanks to Apple's replacement programs.

Hello there.

I'm just wondering, do you use cases with your iPhones?

Thanks ...
 
Hello there.

I'm just wondering, do you use cases with your iPhones?

Thanks ...

I prefer my phones "natural", so I tend not to. Generally, I purchase Apple Care plus for my phones so I can feel secure keeping them case-free.

That said, my iPhone 6 is in a thin clear gel case though this was more to combat the slipperyness of the iPhone, in addition to levelling out the back when the phone sits on a flat surface, which it often does.

However, none of my other phones have cases. One of my 5's and my 4S are both out of warranty, and since they are in near-mint condition, I might resort to cases for those phones to keep them in good condition. My other 5 is quite banged up however :p so I won't be resorting to a case for that one!
 
I've been using an iPhone 4 up until now and am sitting here with an iPhone 6 and an iPhone 5s trying to decide which to keep and which to return. Not easy as both have significant pros and cons.

I love the big and extremely high quality screen on the iPhone 6 and of course it's nice that it's so thin, even though the camera sticking out was a stupid design decision IMO. But that's kind of it...the drawback with the 6 is that it just doesn't handle well in my hands - too wide, too big to use in a very mobile urban setting with one hand. I can use it with one hand as a phone and to read on, but not for input without risking dropping it. Especially if standing on a bus or train. Unlike the 5s the 6 is very slippery (though nicely rounded) so I feel it needs a case to hold firmly, but that makes it larger and uglier.

The iPhone 5s is, I think, beautiful and just the right size for a phone. I like everything about it, but the screen does feels smallish now that I've tried the 6. And the screen just isn't as good quality - a yellowish hue that is a bit warmer on top and with not as good viewing angles as the 6. I don't care about Apple Pay today, but maybe I will want it in the near future?

Just to say that if I were already using a 5 or 5s I wouldn't bother switching to the 6. The 5s is still a great phone.
 
I'm still happy with my 5S, it does the job well and gets through the day on one charge most days.

I do like the thinner chassis and bigger screen on the 6 but i can wait, i might just wait for the 6S.
 
I prefer my phones "natural", so I tend not to. Generally, I purchase Apple Care plus for my phones so I can feel secure keeping them case-free.

That said, my iPhone 6 is in a thin clear gel case though this was more to combat the slipperyness of the iPhone, in addition to levelling out the back when the phone sits on a flat surface, which it often does.

However, none of my other phones have cases. One of my 5's and my 4S are both out of warranty, and since they are in near-mint condition, I might resort to cases for those phones to keep them in good condition. My other 5 is quite banged up however :p so I won't be resorting to a case for that one!


Hey buddy, sorry for the delay in responding.

Thanks for the info.

I have a 6 in Space Grey and I have to say ... I think it's ugly.

Really wish I'd got it in Silver, instead.

The White face always looks cleaner, whereas the black one constantly shows dust.

I, too have my 6 in a case. The Apple silicone case (black) which I feel makes the phone look even more bland.

However, the phone is so slippery, as you say, and this is the reason for me using it.

On a plus note, my 6 has no dead pixels (checked thoroughly), no dust under the screen or in the camera, and no light bleeding.

It is a perfect unit, which is a first for me, and this was why I decided to keep it.

I knew with my luck I would return it for a silver one and there would be issues with it.

Anyway, thanks for responding and I shall wish you a very happy 2015.

All the best ...
 
I'm still happy with my 5S, it does the job well and gets through the day on one charge most days.

I do like the thinner chassis and bigger screen on the 6 but i can wait, i might just wait for the 6S.

Same, although I do wish the display was a bit larger. I sure hope an iPad Pro will satisfy my lust for a bigger display ;)
 
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