The iPad neds 128GB more than the iPod touch needs it. Lots of people use it for work and school, in addition to personal stuff like games and productivity apps.
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Anyone else think 64GB is now likely?
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Maybe you should look at the sales numbers before you make statements that make no sense.
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The iPod Touch isn't going anywhere. And anyone who says otherwise is way off.
In due time the iTouch will replace the iPod Classic when it bumps up it's storage to something along the lines of 128 GBs. Perhaps this fall we will see a step in that direction. (A 96 GB iPod Touch.)
I honestly don't think Apple will try to push an iTouch model which has data capabilities that you can activate (like a 3G iPad). Instead they will push the iPhone 4S to people looking to get the cheapest iPhone possible. Or perhaps offer the option (with the iPhone 4S) of purchasing data by the month via an American carrier in case you don't want to lock yourself into a 2-year contract. Not saying that will happen, but it's a thought.
As for the OP's question, yes, I think we are FINALLY going to see a 64 GB iPhone this fall.
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You are looking at it all wrong.
My iPhone has become my one and only music player. My music collection currently resides at 51 GBs. A 64 GB iPhone would be perfect for me. Why would I bother with iCloud or anything along those lines when I can just have all my music at my fingertips without any effort.
Just because you may not need it personally or think others don't doesn't mean it's true. I know my situation is echoed by others on MR too.
In due time the iTouch will replace the iPod Classic when it bumps up it's storage to something along the lines of 128 GBs. Perhaps this fall we will see a step in that direction. (A 96 GB iPod Touch.)
I honestly don't think Apple will try to push an iTouch model which has data capabilities that you can activate (like a 3G iPad). Instead they will push the iPhone 4S to people looking to get the cheapest iPhone possible. Or perhaps offer the option (with the iPhone 4S) of purchasing data by the month via an American carrier in case you don't want to lock yourself into a 2-year contract. Not saying that will happen, but it's a thought.
As for the OP's question, yes, I think we are FINALLY going to see a 64 GB iPhone this fall.
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You are looking at it all wrong.
My iPhone has become my one and only music player. My music collection currently resides at 51 GBs. A 64 GB iPhone would be perfect for me. Why would I bother with iCloud or anything along those lines when I can just have all my music at my fingertips without any effort.
Just because you may not need it personally or think others don't doesn't mean it's true. I know my situation is echoed by others on MR too.
Then Apple would have to be really daft. 3G data use by individuals is going up at a much higher rate (primarily due to more individuals using it) than carrier data investment, and indeed 3G is simply hamstrung by physics in how much data can be distributed in a given cell at any one time.
We are 10 - 15 years away from meaningful 4G coverage. Probably 20 in many countries.
All of this means data prices will continue to go up and limits will continue to drop. Working on the assumption that people will be able to stream large files on the move just does not fit empirical reality, and iCloud does not seem especially based on such a premise.
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Most people don't have enough bandwidth (due to plan limits) for iCloud to replace an additional 32GB of storage space.
And even for those who do, mobile networks tend to be slow and unreliable, especially when you most need them, so I doubt this is going to be Apple's strategy.
How often do you find yourself saying "I wish I had that one song / album" from the ~19gb not on your iPhone? We all consume our music differently, I am not denying it. But if you find yourself in that situation every day fine. I would wonder if you had a chunk of music on your phone you don't ever listen to but whatever works.
Remember there will be wifi backup and syncing so you won't even have to plug your iPhone into your computer. Just uncheck one album and check the one your want. 5 seconds. That is 30 minutes across the year. If your job pays your $200 - $400 an hour, then maybe your time is worth that.
Maybe for you it is worth paying $100 at least (if iPhone 5 is 32gb and 64gb) and potentially $200 (if they keep the current scheme and just add a 64gb) so you can carry everything around. But most people are upgrading close to once a year and it makes much more sense to pay $25 vs. $100/$200 a year to have access to all of your music.
(I don't mean this to come across as hostile if it sounds that way at all)
You are all looking at it wrong, music isn't the reason a few people (that I know) would like 64GB phones, it's the APPS. As it stands some apps easily come in at 1GB in file size (fifa 11 for example) and it's insane!
I have at the moment about 18GBs of apps, plus 22GBs of music. The music compresses to about 11GBs when I check the box 'Convert higher bit rate songs to 128kbps AAC' but that leaves about 18GBs on a 32GB device.
Add in say 10GBs of apps (that I just like to carry around - don't like not having one in case I decide I want to use it) leaves 8GBs. Add in the fact that some people might want a couple of films and you easily fill up the space. Also remember that if rumors are true and we do have an 8MP camera on the new phone then picture file sizes are going to increase. Also if 1080P video recording comes then you'll need more room to record videos.
It just would be nice to have the option of paying for 64GBs. Some people above for example like having all their music with them (or have an awful lot of it!).
Plus if a 64GB model is introduced I think it'll go.
iPhone 4 8GB
iPone 5 32GB
iPhone 5 64GB
This will then make people think 'oh for another 100$ (or whatever it may be) I get 4x the memory AND the new phone!'!
Look at the iPod touch line at the moment, it goes 8GB, 32GB then 64GB.
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Having said all of that memory prices for a single 64GB flash card are still really expensive (apparently) so I wouldn't be surprised if it was 16 and 32GB still. Maybe even with 64GB coming in at 100$ more. If that was the case I think I'd pay for the extra space.
I have at the moment about 18GBs of apps, plus 22GBs of music. The music compresses to about 11GBs when I check the box 'Convert higher bit rate songs to 128kbps AAC' but that leaves about 18GBs on a 32GB device.
Add in say 10GBs of apps (that I just like to carry around - don't like not having one in case I decide I want to use it) leaves 8GBs. Add in the fact that some people might want a couple of films and you easily fill up the space. Also remember that if rumors are true and we do have an 8MP camera on the new phone then picture file sizes are going to increase. Also if 1080P video recording comes then you'll need more room to record videos.
It just would be nice to have the option of paying for 64GBs. Some people above for example like having all their music with them (or have an awful lot of it!).
Plus if a 64GB model is introduced I think it'll go.
iPhone 4 8GB
iPone 5 32GB
iPhone 5 64GB
This will then make people think 'oh for another 100$ (or whatever it may be) I get 4x the memory AND the new phone!'!
Look at the iPod touch line at the moment, it goes 8GB, 32GB then 64GB.
tl;dr
Having said all of that memory prices for a single 64GB flash card are still really expensive (apparently) so I wouldn't be surprised if it was 16 and 32GB still. Maybe even with 64GB coming in at 100$ more. If that was the case I think I'd pay for the extra space.
This is probably what I was talking about. I'm not a heavy music listener, and I plan on using Spotify for most of my music. Video is where I use the storage space.
You would think iCloud would mean they could keep the storage capacities the same, but as has been mentioned, it will probably just demand higher capacities.
iCloud will be a welcome relief for being able to download TV episodes when I want them, but between a decent amount of apps, some music, and photos, that doesn't leave a whole lot of room for video.
I still welcome the iCloud solution, but I would take 64GB.
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Good post. That could be what we see. As I mentioned in my post, it's the apps, camera, combination of all these things. You make a very good case for 64GB.
When you download something from iCloud, it is still going to use your remote storage. It's not a streaming service.
Agreed. These are one of the reasons why few people are speculating the success of iCloud.
I know that it's not a streaming service.
But let me be more descriptive for you. This way, someone can use an app they bought, and delete it once they realized they don't use it as much, and then redownload it when they need it, on the go. This is another option for people who keep apps in their phone, just in case, and take up storage.
The scenario where I see a 64GB iPhone 5 being a possibility is with 1080p HD recording in the iPhone5 which may or may not come.
You need to look at memory prices for 64GB. Apple uses 1 chip for the phone and doubles that for the ipod touch.
If the price for the 64GB is too high, we won't see it in the phone.
It has nothing to do with the cloud. It's all about the money ladies and gents.
If the price for the 64GB is too high, we won't see it in the phone.
It has nothing to do with the cloud. It's all about the money ladies and gents.
I've been begging for one for a while. But I'd say there are just 30%, why?
The iPhone is a 500-700$ Device without a contract, the iPod Touch is just 230$, so that's why there won't be such thing.
- All phones in the market right now have 8-16GB, why would they do that much more? (maybe to cover microSD expansion, yes)
- 64GB Flash Memories are still expensive, however I don't see why they couldn't add it to a 600$ Device when the 400$ iPod Touch has it
The iPhone is a 500-700$ Device without a contract, the iPod Touch is just 230$, so that's why there won't be such thing.
Not quite sure you know what you're talking about. They would obviously lower the price when they get rid of the iPod Touch.
This means squat.
This is the only thing that matters. Have you compared the current bulk pricing of 64Gb NAND chips compared to pre-iPhone 4 release prices. This is the only information that will be helpful, not all this bs posturing on what Apple "should" do.
The iPhone pricing has absolutely got nothing to do with the iPod touch. Are you trolling?
This isn't the only thing that matters. The introduction of iCloud should be a clear indicator that Apple is trying to move us away from local storage, and for all we know, their logic is that instead of having a 64 GB iPhone, we should keep our 32 GB and pay $25 a year for iTunes match if we run out of space. And if that still isn't enough space for all our media, we're more than welcome to buy an iPod touch. The point is, who knows what Apple is thinking? I think that if anything, their focus on iCloud shows that they'd stay away from increasing storage capacity, because it would give people less reason to embrace the cloud.
That said, I would definitely like a 64 GB option on the iPhone 5.
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So sick of people saying there's really no need for 64gb or the cloud will suffice. Garbage. I've been hoping for 64gb for 3 years now mainly because while I live near a metropolitan area with 3G, I get out of the city almost every weekend to where access to the cloud is miserably slow or nonexistent. My 32gigs are always running close to full with my apps, music, movies and my stuff. Just an SDHC or something to give me some more space, it's not too much to ask. If the strategy is to force me to spend a yearly fee for the cloud access I'm done, there are some other killer phones out there that have surpassed the iPhone in many ways and believe it or not having to stick with a paltry 32gb's is a deal breaker for me.
So sick of people saying there's really no need for 64gb or the cloud will suffice. Garbage. I've been hoping for 64gb for 3 years now mainly because while I live near a metropolitan area with 3G, I get out of the city almost every weekend to where access to the cloud is miserably slow or nonexistent. My 32gigs are always running close to full with my apps, music, movies and my stuff. Just an SDHC or something to give me some more space, it's not too much to ask. If the strategy is to force me to spend a yearly fee for the cloud access I'm done, there are some other killer phones out there that have surpassed the iPhone in many ways and believe it or not having to stick with a paltry 32gb's is a deal breaker for me.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying the cloud will suffice. I'm saying that's what I think Apple's logic is.
I think the chance is about 50/50. I and others want one (hell, I could justify a 128GB one!) but I do fear that Apple will see it as some sort of threat to iCloud.
One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. This is a tremendous leap in logic and makes no sense.
Only component cost, target price, and profit margin matters. Anybody who says anything else knows little about consumer electronics.
I don't think Apple would do it... But a memory card option would be nice... In any case a 64GB would be very welcome...