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Anyone else think Snow Leopard... sucks?
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GoCubsGo
macrumors Nehalem
I like that you're complaining about a beta version that you probably don't have the true right to be using in the first place. If you're unwilling or unable to shell out money for the OS then I seriously doubt you're paying to be a student developer.
Your SL is in beta. It's not ready to go and thus the issues. Do us all a favor and report your issues to Apple so they can ensure the next build is more solid.
And this "I'm a college student" crap is old. Is it stated in orientation now that you must complain about being an oh so poor college student during every conversation you have? I don't know but I never uttered those words in defense.
Your SL is in beta. It's not ready to go and thus the issues. Do us all a favor and report your issues to Apple so they can ensure the next build is more solid.
And this "I'm a college student" crap is old. Is it stated in orientation now that you must complain about being an oh so poor college student during every conversation you have? I don't know but I never uttered those words in defense.
YES. Thank you. It is a dramatic re-working under the hood, but the changes are less obvious up front. Where we will really see changes is in future releases.
OF COURSE this is just a refined Leopard; it's called SNOW Leopard for cryin' out loud.
BENI
macrumors regular
macboy 4 is absolutely - right snow leopard is not meant to have a whole new interface (which is great for me as I love the leopard UI) it has been rebuilt behind the scenes to make it faster and more robust. It is not exactly a bug fix (apple certainly wouldn't say that anyway) it is just made to be an improved leopard not a whole new OS.
how can you know if it sucks? - nobody has it yet.
this was one worry of mine. I hope it gets sorted. I might have to enable right clicking on my mighty mouse for the first time. errr
Yeah, I've been hearing the same thing. A lot of people say they have their current Leopard tweaked to the point that it performs better than SL.
NathanCH
macrumors 65816
Want some cheese with that wine? Honestly, can you find anything less important to complain about? I doubt it.
cmaier
Suspended
Simplicated
macrumors 65816
Yes, please. Also my new complain is that the Empty button in Trash is now black. Satisfied?
SnowLeopard2008
macrumors 604
Apple hasn't added Grand Central Dispatch yet. Nor have they added OpenCL. If all you care about is the UI, the go Linux. You can change the UI whenever you feel like it. Sorry, but saying that the UI hasn't changed and therefore it sucks shows your little to non-existent knowledge about computers and technology.
Another example of your little to non-existent knowledge about computers and technology is that you (or whoever said that) claim debug code is the same as release code. Unless Apple is a dimwit with 3 year old programmers, debug code is NEVER release code. EVER. It's not even called debug code, but a beta release. The actually RTM release is much different. They clean up code, modify modules, etc. to RTM standards. Unless you have the actual retail disc or the gold master master DVD, you don't have the actual release OS.
Another example of your little to non-existent knowledge about computers and technology is that you (or whoever said that) claim debug code is the same as release code. Unless Apple is a dimwit with 3 year old programmers, debug code is NEVER release code. EVER. It's not even called debug code, but a beta release. The actually RTM release is much different. They clean up code, modify modules, etc. to RTM standards. Unless you have the actual retail disc or the gold master master DVD, you don't have the actual release OS.
cmaier
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Actually, the debug code poster's point was that one can determine whether code is debug code by checking to see if it contains symbols. He is correct. Debug code differs primarily by the inclusion of these symbols (which enables one to, for example, interact with the code in a debugger much more easily because one can see and set variables, etc.) He didn't mention that debug code also often includes additional instrumentation (for example, things that are #ifdef'd out of the final code).
But you are wrong - Apple frequently ships, unmodified, the last version of the beta code. Beta code need not be debug code, and late betas almost never are debug code because debug code runs much more slowly (for various reasons including the fact that debug code almost always turns off compiler optimizations).
Nero Wolfe
macrumors regular
Does anyone know if the minimize to dock icon setting is still there? Oddly, this is one thing I was excited about.
thegoldenmackid
macrumors 604
Given that most people should not have tested it legally, this seems as if it may be a large waste of time. I like it, I would love to see aqua, but investing resources in improving the performance is not something I am disappointed about.
Snow Leopard is better then Leopard
Snow Leopard is better then Windows 7
Snow Leopard is better then Vista
etc, etc, etc...
iThink I am fine.
Snow Leopard is better then Leopard
Snow Leopard is better then Windows 7
Snow Leopard is better then Vista
etc, etc, etc...
iThink I am fine.
I actually think that leapord isnt really that bad of an OS. If your worried about HD space, you can customize Leopard.
for exapmple. My leopard installation only took 7GB of HD. The reason is i customized the installation so the only language is english and removed all printer drivers except for HP since i own an HP printer.
For the whole 11.4 GB, I Admit it is a loss of HD. But if you customize the installation, its not half bad.
Also, Mac OS/X is Technically a PPC OS since it was based on the Risc architecture. If APPle makes an OS For Intel MACS (cisc), i can assume there will be problems cause the Mac OS needs the PPC architecture for system processes.
As long as apple doesn't mess with the system, i think snow leopard won't be that bad.
for me at this moment. ill stick with leopard😉
cheers
for exapmple. My leopard installation only took 7GB of HD. The reason is i customized the installation so the only language is english and removed all printer drivers except for HP since i own an HP printer.
For the whole 11.4 GB, I Admit it is a loss of HD. But if you customize the installation, its not half bad.
Also, Mac OS/X is Technically a PPC OS since it was based on the Risc architecture. If APPle makes an OS For Intel MACS (cisc), i can assume there will be problems cause the Mac OS needs the PPC architecture for system processes.
As long as apple doesn't mess with the system, i think snow leopard won't be that bad.
for me at this moment. ill stick with leopard😉
cheers
Yes, 10A432 is noticeably faster and more stable than 10A421. The many app crashes is now less frequent.
Suck? I wouldn't say so, Faster Safari, HD space gain, minor UI tweaks are worth the $29.00. It would be more worth it to me if I can get it to boot into 64bit.
Cinder6
macrumors 6502a
OldCorpse
macrumors 68000
But won't you be able to tweak SL as well? And to eventually have it tweaked to your specifications well enough so it's as well tweaked as your special sauce Leopard?
Personally, I'm still on Tiger 10.4.11 - it is rock solid for me. After seeing what was offered for Leopard, I have decided to skip Leopard altogether (especially that I'm still on PPC hardware, and Leopard is slower on this than Tiger). I was going to wait for SL and new hardware. It would suck mightily if after waiting for 2 years to take the plunge, SL transpired to be a dog. I'll wait to make up my mind when the official SL comes out and users start posting feedback.
OldCorpse
macrumors 68000
Yeah, well, I'm gonna build a hackintosh and also buy a mini pretty much end of October, beginning of November. However, if they update the iMac to something interesting, then I'll skip the hackintosh and buy the iMac. Unfortunately, I doubt they'll upgrade the iMac to make it interesting to me: LED screen, more addressable RAM, better processor (Intel isn't even coming up with anything that'll fit into the iMac until 2010). Anyhow, regardless, I'll be on SL by end of October or early November of this year.
That is totally wrong.
Mac OS X uses an ABI designed for CISC processors, mostly ignoring RISC design principles.
Instead for x86_64 OSX is using the System V Application Binary Interface , which is perfect for Intel.
😉
Grand Central Dispatch is a Buzzword. It is something like a thread pool. Nothing really new.
michael.lauden
macrumors 68020
i highly doubt that you can tweak threading in leopard. i also doubt you can tweak mail to run faster, and ichat to use less bandwidth. these reasons alone are worth snow leopard to me. not to mention 64 bit and openCL and about a million other refinements
gnasher729
Suspended
Well, it is nothing new except that it saves programmers from much of the detail work that you have to get right to get optimal performance, hopefully with the effect that multithreading will be actually used. And blocks are definitely new.