Anyone else very disappointed with the 650m with 1GB

[sireShonBohn]

Erm, why are you comparing your TWO year old laptop with a new one? Of COURSE it will be better -_-

I'm so sorry I confused you, I will check with you first next time I post just to make sure we're on the same page.

It was my last computer that I owned, so a comparison is warranted I think. It's just nice to see how hugely better the rMBP is than the so called "competition".

 

[minnus]

I'm so sorry I confused you, I will check with you first next time I post just to make sure we're on the same page.

It was my last computer that I owned, so a comparison is warranted I think. It's just nice to see how hugely better the rMBP is than the so called "competition".

Once again, I am stating an opinion that your comparison is a tad unreasonable. Of course the newer computer will be faster and cooler, which is what I am saying. Not that your comparison is invalid - just an unreasonable one.

 

[mikeo007]

Edit:
Nevermind, not worth my time.

 

[Tombs]

I own plenty of luxury products and indeed they are noticeably higher quality than a comparable product from a cheaper brand. This is because they cost ten or twenty times more. Apple products don't cost that much more, if they're even more, these days.

Have you taken a look and held one of the newer XPS or Envy products from Dell and HP? They are very similar in terms of quality- I was extremely impressed by my friend's new Envy Spectre. Dells and HPs are not the same cheap plasticky products that they used to churn out, at least, when you look at the products which are in the same price range as the MacBook Pros.

(of course, their $500 Best Buy specials are going to feel cheap, but that's not what I'm talking about here)

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No. I was talking about the number of Apple users who seem to believe that their $2000 product is somehow worth 10x more than a $2000 Dell or HP product.

'leman' was talking about how the MacBook is some fancy superbike while the Dell XPS 15 is a cheap 125cc scooter. He proved my point of how some Apple users think way too much of their products.

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No. In my post which I quoted there, I was talking about the number of Apple users who seem to believe that their $2000 product is somehow worth 10x more than a $2000 Dell or HP product.

'leman' was talking about how the MacBook is some fancy superbike while the Dell XPS 15 is a cheap 125cc scooter. He proved my point of how some Apple users think way too much of their products.

Thats how it read to me, you also responded 2

 

[pandamonia]

I was hoping apple would start trying to get some the gaming market... This gpu is a sad choice for a $2000+ laptop and then to only give it 1GB of ram on top of that is insulting. Guess I won't cancel my Alienware m17x order after all...

The 650M GT runs at 900mhz which is FASTER than its competition running the same chip.

Its also been clocked higher than the 660M GTX.

This IS as good as it gets in a notebook as thin as this!

 

[TheMacBookPro]

Thats how it read to me, you also responded 2

Oops, sorry, thought I'd fixed it. Fixed now

 

[sireShonBohn]

Once again, I am stating an opinion that your comparison is a tad unreasonable. Of course the newer computer will be faster and cooler, which is what I am saying. Not that your comparison is invalid - just an unreasonable one.

What I was really getting at is that the Alienware I had couldn't play games on max settings when it was new, so that argument is kind of bogus when applied to MBP's. It's a notebook for crying out loud, if you want to play games on max settings build a desktop computer that can do that. From my perspective having used both computers, I'm much more impressed with the rMBP than the Alienware.

The other thing I had hoped to illustrate is that computers are obviously getting thinner lighter and more powerful. It might be unfair to compare a new computer to one 2 years old, but that 2 year old computer was marketed as "the fastest 15 inch notebook you can buy". So call me crazy but I'm fairly impressed that the rMBP is 5 lbs lighter, has 5x the battery life, is more than half as thin, and more powerful in every single way. Consider the AIR when it came out, really thin and light but... really slow. rMBP broke that mold.

 

[tomtom2234]

The RMBP can handle any game at a decent FPS currently out. I don't understand why people are so obsessed with running games on ultra. If you want a gaming laptop, *gasp* get a gaming laptop. the MBP is not nor (probably) will it ever be a gaming laptop. You keep linking to all these other PC laptops. If you think the MBP is that bad why waste your time posting here? Apple isn't going to change it nor can we.

 

[danwellsvt]

High quality PCs certainly exist, although you won't find them at Best Buy (a well stocked micro center or fry's may have some, and they're mostly sold online). You'll pay at least as much for a well built PC a you will for a comparable Mac, and somewhat more in some cases. My father has a MacBook Air, and my mother has a Toshiba of about the same price, that is also a thin and light machine of similar specs (it's about 1/2 lb heavier, but has an optical drive). There is no comparison - the MBA is a much better built machine. The Lenovo that is substantially more expensive than the MBA is at least as well made, though ( and some of the higher end Sony VAIOs are apparently gorgeous, although more in the price range of an RMBP than an MBA). Macs are competitively priced against their real competitors (EliteBooks, ThinkPads, Dell Precisions and upper end XPSs, the nicer VAIOs, etc...).
Where Apple gets in trouble is that there are several computers they choose not to make, which people want to buy (and wish they made). Here are at least some of the "often desired Macs" that Apple resolutely refuses to introduce.

1.) any cheap, commodity computer - there is often a Mac Mini that almost counts, but there's never much choice.
2.) any cheap laptop (other than an iPad). If you want a sub $1000 portable from Apple, it'll run iOS, not OS X. I'd rather use an iPad than a $500 notebook, but there ARE things a $500 notebook can do that an iPad can't.
3.)any expandable desktop other than a $4000 workstation. This one is my personal bugbear...
4.)any computer built for gaming (notebook or desktop).

 

[Panini]

The 650M GT runs at 900mhz which is FASTER than its competition running the same chip.

Its also been clocked higher than the 660M GTX.

This IS as good as it gets in a notebook as thin as this!

QFT.

rMBP 650m > Ordinary 660m

 

[Stridder44]

(Disclaimer, though: I once filled out a rebate form for MSI. They stiffed me on the rebate. I complained. They went around submitting the information from my rebate form to a ton of spammers and applying for loans with it. Yes, really.)

Reality: probably half of the rebates out there will never come back to the customer due to all kinds of BS reasons. It's not uncommon at all, and is why so many forums/sites don't even consider calling an item "on sale" because having a rebate attached to it is basically an empty promise. Hell, even if you do get the rebate back they're all on those crappy pre-paid VISA cards. Yes, really.