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I don't buy myself a new iPhone every year. The shortest generation was 18 months between the 3G and the 4. Though the "8" has a nicer form factor. I like the screen size of the 7+, but not the overall size. I've broke 2 belt clips already when entering a car.
 
curious to hear if people are ok downsizing from a plus model to the 8, i understand the screen to body ratio is better on the 8 but i’m not sure i would like the feel of a smaller phone, will there be an 8+ model in the future one would hope
 
curious to hear if people are ok downsizing from a plus model to the 8, i understand the screen to body ratio is better on the 8 but i’m not sure i would like the feel of a smaller phone, will there be an 8+ model in the future one would hope

A smaller phone with the same screen size of the Plus is obviously better
 
When I was younger, I upgraded every year. Over the years, I have learned to appreciate what I have and not waste money. Went from 6 to 7 and will be keeping my 7. iPhone 8 is a big change and I think it will need another year of ironing out features. 8S or 9 may be when I will upgrade.
 
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I have started to keep phones 2 years. Not too mention the 7 plus has some phenomenal specs that will make it future proof for awhile.
 
I’m really really happy with my 7 Plus jailbroken, I cant imagine a stock 7s or even 8 even with OLED screen and some interesting surprises will beat it for my needs and uses
 
A smaller phone with the same screen size of the Plus is obviously better

not sure i agree with that, having a plus model for 3 years than to downgrade in size of phone, especially for us larger guys 6’5 an 8 would feel like a toy phone compared to a plus model
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I’m really really happy with my 7 Plus jailbroken, I cant imagine a stock 7s or even 8 even with OLED screen and some interesting surprises will beat it for my needs and uses

i didnt even know people still did this
 
not sure i agree with that, having a plus model for 3 years than to downgrade in size of phone, especially for us larger guys 6’5 an 8 would feel like a toy phone compared to a plus model
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i didnt even know people still did this

Since late 2007, day 1 hour 1 of unboxing gen 1.

Woot woot haha

Honestly might’ve been the same day (or thereabouts) that I joined MR instead of just skimming the forums. The timeframe matches up relatively.

My avi is homage to the jailbreak that was named ‘greenpois0n’ too

I’m an OG. But I acknowledge i’m Not necessarily the avg apple consumer
 
I’m really really happy with my 7 Plus jailbroken, I cant imagine a stock 7s or even 8 even with OLED screen and some interesting surprises will beat it for my needs and uses

Which probably doesn't equate to 1% of most iPhone users who don't jail-break. Understandable you enjoy the freedom, but Even if I wanted to jail-break, I wouldn't sacrifice it for the sake of the iPhone's features today or how far the iPhone has improved ten years ago.
 
Which probably doesn't equate to 1% of most iPhone users who don't jail-break. Understandable you enjoy the freedom, but Even if I wanted to jail-break, I wouldn't sacrifice it for the sake of the iPhone's features today or how far the iPhone has improved ten years ago.

Ooh yeah jailbreak user base is insignificant and a fringe group amongst Apple fans/customers, to be certain.

All diehard jail breakers could migrate to Android And be completely done with iOS and I dont think it would even put a tangible dent in sales, etc.

But for me, going from regular version of a phone loaded with customizations as part of my ‘workflow’ (I hesitate saying that, since its a phone, but usage) to an S version, with updated SoC but similar/identical externals, is one step forward and a lot of steps back. I only know this because I’m speaking from experience, not from a philosophical or conceptual standpoint. Theres been many times I’ve upgraded iPhones, assumed a jb was around the bend, and been in agony for being premature in my decisions, without at least some sorta fall back plan.

IPhone 5 comes to mind, took a whomping 6 months to jailbreak. Coming from 4s, it was a nice upgrade hw wise, but I was still kicking myself for doing it even so.

But if you’re talking a bout like a dramatic leap i.e. iPhone 5 jailbroken or a stock iPhone 7, obviously there are significant gains by getting a hw upgrade that many years apart

I will admit over the years, with development of iOS, reasons to jailbreak have become fewer, but fundamentally I need root and I need to decide what I want to install and how I want things customized. I dont want to wait and see if Apple will incorporate my tweaks, if they do at all, and if they do, if they execute it well (sometimes they do, sometimes they dont)

Increasingly, jailbreak on tablets isnt that important to me I’ve learned

Thats why I have a stock 12.9 gen 2

...but, even then I have a 9.7 pro on 10.2 jailbroken if I ever get an itching (for customization or a smaller size)

:p

I’m a unique snowflake
 
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I'll keep my 6S+ because it still works perfectly well and handles heavy tasks with ease, not because it has a headphone jack. That headphone jack only acts as a dust collector since I got my AirPods.
 
I'm getting rid of my 7, I downgraded size wise from a 6 plus and I regret doing it everyday, I paid my phone off early so I can go for the 8 :). 7 seems like it will be outdated fast after seeming the specs for the newer iPhones.
 
I'm getting rid of my 7, I downgraded size wise from a 6 plus and I regret doing it everyday, I paid my phone off early so I can go for the 8 :). 7 seems like it will be outdated fast after seeming the specs for the newer iPhones.
The iPhone 7 will be a powerful smartphone for at least the next two years yet. If an iPhone 6S can hold its own 2 years after it was released then I don't see the iPhone 7 becoming 'quickly outdated' anytime soon.
 
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The iPhone 7 will be a powerful smartphone for at least the next two years yet. If an iPhone 6S can hold its own 2 years after it was released then I don't see the iPhone 7 becoming 'quickly outdated' anytime soon.
The 7 Plus won't become outdated. The 7 will because it only has 2GB of RAM and all the new iPhones have 3GB standard so 2GB phones will have some trouble with iOS 11.
 
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The 7 Plus won't become outdated. The 7 will because it only has 2GB of RAM and all the new iPhones have 3GB standard so 2GB phones will have some trouble with iOS 11.
So you're saying phones that are 1 and 2 years old will have trouble running iOS 11? That'll be pretty unprecedented if true.

Edit: My brand new 2017 iPad 9.7" has 2GB of ram too??
 
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The iPhone 7 will be a powerful smartphone for at least the next two years yet. If an iPhone 6S can hold its own 2 years after it was released then I don't see the iPhone 7 becoming 'quickly outdated' anytime soon.
iPhone 7 should have came with 3gb of ram but 2 will slow down the phone after iOS 11
 
Planned obsolescence for people to upgrade.
So 2 months after releasing the 2017 iPad you're saying Apple is already pushing for people to replace it? I don't buy it this early, sorry, maybe in year 3 but not straight away.

Even my iPhone 6S is as fast as the day it was released and Apple are yet to deliberately slow it down. Why is this year suddenly different?
 
I've used iOS 11 beta on the 2017 iPad 9.7 (A9, 2GB, 1536*2048). Works fine. Don't really see how the iPhone 7 (A10, 2GB, 750*1334) will perform worse than the iPad all things considered.
 
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So 2 months after releasing the 2017 iPad you're saying Apple is already pushing for people to replace it? I don't buy it this early, sorry, maybe in year 3 but not straight away.

Even my iPhone 6S is as fast as the day it was released and Apple are yet to deliberately slow it down. Why is this year suddenly different?

These planned obsolescence quotes are outlandish. Apple designs and integrates their software to better the device and make it more efficient. It's not there end goal to slow down the device so the consumer upgrades. Not to mention, consumers have options, which Apple can't force anything on anyone.
 
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Using an iOS 11 on iPhone 7 right now and it's just as fast as 10.3.3. Those claims above about the 7 becoming outdated and not handling iOS 11 well are BS.
 
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I thought it was total tripe, thanks!

I've had my new 2017 iPad for 3 days now and the claim it was suddenly going to slow down I knew was rubbish. My iPad Air lasted nearly 4 years without slowing down too much and I expect this one to be the same. I'm hoping my iPhone 6S copes with it too as that's only a year old!
 
I will keep my Iphone 7 plus. It currently fulfills all my needs, has a good battery, and there is plenty of storage left. Like most forum members, I am a sucker for new technology but I try to hold out for at least a couple of years. Can't justify spending the money when the current phone is working flawlessly and there is not a feature added that I can't live without.
 
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