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To me, the black keyboard paired with the ultra glossy display with the fat shiny black bezel around it looks very Windows PC. And I guess I have the old one, I have a PowerBook G4, so it's the same body.. And yes, I do love the look of my laptop. It's not as pretty as my iBook, but it's very professional looking, whereas the new unibodies are neither pretty nor professional looking.

I was talking about the old one looking like a PC. Which it doesn't.
 
I have to say that I too agree with many of the posters.

I would not trade my current SR MBP for the new GLOSSBOOK!

The unibody is nice, but I am questioning the finish and the scratch resistance. The display, while glass screen theoretically should be great, it is not. The glare is a real problem. The matte screen is one of the reasons I converted from PC to MAC.

I could care less about the huge trackpad, but the keyboard is also an issue. I do not care for the feel. I have an iSkin cover on my classic keyboard and it types like a charm. Just the right amount of key travel and feedback, while maintaining its original new look.

I could go on, but I am sure many of my fellow posters will hit on the other issues related to ports and battery life, etc.

Basically, I am pretty disappointed with Apple. The GLOSSBOOK PRO? is nothing more than a 15" MB, with a few extras. :mad:
 
I actually don't like the new design that much... i like the look of the silver keys a lot more. And it's not because I own the last gen macbook pro. Also, didn't the glass make it heavier?

Also, the new technical specs didn't really impress me at all... and by it not supporting blueray and such I feel like they're focussing less and less on the prosumers.
 
I like both designs but if I were purchasing today I would probably lean toward the newer one.
 
There will always be compromise in design; to introduce a new design feature you often have to lose an old one. I think the new MBPs look excellent but I own and still really like the old design. For my money the new one has a cleaner, more solid look and I prefer the smaller 'speaker holes, the magnetic latch and the cd slot/port layout. If I upgraded (which I am not planning on doing) I would however miss the matt screen and the silver keyboard which looks much nicer to me. I couldn't care less for the new multi-touch trackpad; I hardly ever use mine as it is.
 
I like the new unibody MB.

But for some reason, maybe its the size, the unibody MBP doesn't appear as nice to me and I prefer the older aluminum models.
 
Not to me. The old MBP's look dated compared to the unibodys.

True, but many on these forums are too young to appreciate what was the best Apple designed laptop since the Lombard.

I'd rather have the unibody since it's easier to upgrade the parts, but I'd rather have the FW400, matte screen option, and keyboard from the previous generation.

...The display adapter is $29, not $99 and works great into my 23" Apple Cinema....

The dual link DVI adaptor is $99. So to power the 30" ACD or any monitor with a resolution that high that doesn't have mini display port (all of them by the way, and since there is no mini display port to full sized yet) you'll need to get the $99 adaptor.
 
I rather appreciated that my MBP didn't look like a garden variety Macbook. The new laptops are definitely better hardware-wise, and the design is consistent across the line now, which is better for brand identity, but not so great for individual unit identity. A Macbook Air looks like a Macbook looks like a Macbook Pro looks like an iMac looks like a Cinema Display. Its all assimilated, and even more sterile than before. But its still good design, excellent design, even though individual products have lost their distinctiveness. I would rather see the pedestrian Macbook produced in iPod Nano colors, and leave silver to the Pro's and the iMac. Letting Macbook buyers choose their color on the 13in model would add identity to that line, attract even more customers, and add a parallel to the iPod Nano line's fun-hip-you mentality they market toward. Apple could do some good things if they put just a little more into it...
 
my 2 cents. The thing I like about the new MBP's are the unibody, and curves. The thing really feels solid in your hands and in a portable I think that's important. The curves just give it an updated look so that's cool.

The old MBP still has a lot of things going for it. I like the matte screen, and most of all the cheaper prices.

to be honest though...i'm starting to realize that matte screens are a thing of the past..so better get one before they're all gone.
 
I returned my new unibody MBP. Still have a 2.0 GHz MBP and a MBA Rev B. The new unibody is great - at least in some ways. But it is always good to wait for a Rev B.

Not all unibody MBP's have the following issues mine had:
- glassy display (that's a personal preference)
- loose battery cover
- trackpad makes a loud noise and is hard to click one some models
- display hinges are not strong enough for some people in some situations
- Some reports say it has an overheating problem when you are using it closed and connected to an external monitor
- BSOD (black screen of death) when playing games (Apple investigates)
- mini display port forces you to buy expensive adapters (my old MBP was shipping with all adapters and an apple remote included)
- not capable of handling 8 GB (maybe with snow leopard - no one knows yet)

I would advise you to get a cheap early 2008 MBP or at least to wait until MacExpo in January, if you want to get a new one.
 
- BSOD (black screen of death) when playing games (Apple investigates)

Kernel panic?
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The display adapter is $29, not $99 and works great into my 23" Apple Cinema.
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the dual link DVI mini DisplayPort adapter is $99 (for resolutions greater than 1920x1200).

the regular DVI cable is $29

the classic had dual link DVI built in.
 
The worst thing about the older MBP was the stupid lid not closing evenly. I hated that. It was always a crapshoot getting a MBP that had an even gap around the lid. The majority of the MBP's and Powerbooks shipped with an uneven gap and giving the lid a warped look which is sloppy of Apple. With the lid closed, one end looked almost flushed to the bottom case and the other looked raised up.
I like the new unibody's like the MBA because the lid closes completely flat and no warped gap. Also the new unibody's have a much stronger feel.
 
I use (and prefer) the MBP (Classic). I really like the keyboard, having used the keyboard on my friends Macbook. However, I would like the trackpad on the new ones. Hopefully once 10.5.6 comes out the hack for the 4-finger gestures will be easy enough to do. I also enjoy the full DVI port, as that connects to projectors easily at school. And the matte screen goes without saying. The one thing that bugs me is the screen not quite closing all the way... as stated above.

Also in reference to the bug, the HDD access is mostly about not voiding the warranty to replace your drive.
 
I've had every model MacBook Pro, PowerBook G4, and earlier. The new unibody is my favorite with the Titanium PowerBook G4 a close second. Love the thinness, build quality, screen, keyboard, port arrangement. The 2.8GHz with an SSD is a deadly silent screamer. Absolutely no way I've ever go back to a "classic" MacBook Pro design.
 
I've had every model MacBook Pro, PowerBook G4, and earlier. The new unibody is my favorite with the Titanium PowerBook G4 a close second. Love the thinness, build quality, screen, keyboard, port arrangement. The 2.8GHz with an SSD is a deadly silent screamer. Absolutely no way I've ever go back to a "classic" MacBook Pro design.

What type (mlc or slc) and brand of SSD did you purchase? I'm thinking about getting one for my unibody.
 
Both designs have their pros/cons. A good design for me would've been the hybridization of both. a la MacBook Air.
 
And I just got the 17" mbp from the Apple Store, not a refurb. mind you.

That's why I started this thread. I'm a PC user now but will be switching platforms in a few months. I want the same 17" MBP you bought (MBP 17" 4GB RAM Matte Hi-Res 320GB 7200rpm) and was sooo glad to see that the 17" is the old style still and you can get a matte screen.

I called apple and they basically told me not to hold my breath waiting for a 17" unibody. I guess there are some kinks there working out.
 
Both designs have their pros/cons. A good design for me would've been the hybridization of both. a la MacBook Air.

That would be beautiful, a 15 inch MBA with more power and 2 milimeters thicker, thinner bezel and matte glossy/option.
 
That would be beautiful, a 15 inch MBA with more power and 2 milimeters thicker, thinner bezel and matte glossy/option.

NO

the same thing but keep it the same thickness as the previous gen or make it slightly thicker.

There is no need to make a Pro machine any thinner. More FW ports and eSATA and two HDDs would be a nice addition as well.
 
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