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Anyone miss magsafe
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can I ask, how many laptops do have, and why do you need to continually move them around but only within the range of the power cable?
I'm not sure if this has been said already but Magsafe wasn't perfect. If you sere ever in a situation when you were on the sofa with your MacBook resting on your lap, if you were to move to adjust yourself, the connector would disconnect. A small issue, sure, but a little frustrating
Yeah....more macs hitting the ground
and just happens they are no longer repairable ...can we interest you in a new machine On a serious note, loosing MagSafe is a huge step backwards. Every mac I have owned would have hit the ground had it not been for MagSafe.
It will definitely have become one of those things that used to be great but has suddenly become terrible now that Apple isn't using anymore in the minds of some people. Just like the MacBook Pro/Air keyboards which were great but have now suddenly become a spongey unusable mess now that Apple has decided to replace it.
That's because of how cheap and nasty Apple power cords are, not the connector itself.
it's only a partial (no charging light) and awkward solution. now you have a lump sticking out the side of your machine that needs to be considered every time you put it in a bag, carry it through a doorway, set it down on a cluttered surface...
and it may be okay if your world is one computer, one charger. I've worked in several and been to many other offices (with several to dozens of portables) where anyone with a desk has a charger they keep there, another one in their bag for travel (or that they pick from a drawer of extras) and then others throughout the office at conference tables and the like. so in that situation, either everyone has the adapter or the few that do are always pulling and re-inserting that little adapter, inevitably loosing it. and then there are the clients, always showing up with 8% battery left and no charger, so there are more chargers in client seating areas. and the product offered in this kickstarter is no longer universal as there will be others.
so now, one universal standard that just worked (Magsafe 2 was a little glitch on that) on a huge range of machines is replaced with an ever growing pool of proprietary and incompatible adapters.
and ultimately, any of these after the fact magnetic adapters (and the Apple supplied chargers as well) break the very advantage that USB C is meant to convey, one port - multiple signals. so we pay extra for greater potential (when buying the machine) and then are being offered to spend even more money to remove that very potential.
It would give a magsafe type solution for those in need or want. I see nothing wrong with that.
Apple isn't going to move backwards so, there is no real point in people bellyaching day after day about the same thing. You either adapt or move to a different manufacturer, because you don't agree with Apple's direction.
It isn't the same as the magsafe. I didn't represent it as such. The Apple magsafe is gone. Time to stop looking backwards, and either move forward with Apple, or buy a different brand.
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I am not an apologist. I am a realist. When I disagree with Apple or anyone else, I say so and my postings history reflects that, should you wish to look for yourself, and realize your retort with rather stupid.
That is true. While I don't agree with everything Apple does, I do agree with the magsafe and port move. And I believe overall, that Apple is moving forward in the right direction. I may change my mindset later on. And if that happens, I will take my own advice.
The micro-usb ones that have existed for years in Asia for phones are far less lumpy... but as you say, one port becomes charge only, which defeats the removal point in the first place.
[doublepost=1480266699][/doublepost]There are long-existing USB-C ones too.
I have a 2014 MBP that is now used as a server for iTunes, an MBA I use when I travel for work, and a tMBP I use as my main machine. My wife has an MBA.
We often use our macs on the sofa, and we have hidden MagSafe wires there (now one of them is USB-c) so that when we are sitting on the couch we can have the macs on our laps and still be plugged in. But just moving around - shifting positions or setting down the Mac - often unplugs the MagSafe. Or it gets tangled on an afghan, or one of my dogs brushes up against the wire, etc. Often I leave it plugged in on the sofa overnight and come down in the morning to find it unplugged because my wife or a dog brushed the wire.
Similarly, I bring my tMBP to the office to use as my main machine (they give us windows machines but I avoid using them), I keep it plugged in. But I often take it off my desk and set it on my lap and put my feet up on the desk, and the moving around tends to cause the magsafes to disconnect.
I can see how in your situation things aren't working out as you would like but the Magsafe is doing exactly what it is designed to do. disconnecting rather than jerking than machine around. I wonder how long until your dog sends the new machine crashing to the floor. and I think most of your use cases demonstrate exactly why these machines have batteries. that is, situations best served by being unplugged.
In all my years with windows machines and in my brief time with the new mbp, nothing has come close to pulling a machine off the surface it is resting on. MagSafe is simply too weak, and i am very happy with the trade off provided by USB-c. Quite certain MagSafe has never saved my machine. And the 100 times a week when it disconnects with the machine in my lap - in not one of those situations did MagSafe prevent the computer from falling.
The switch to USB-c will probably save me dozens of hours in my lifetime.
I think it's definitely a shame to lose the connector (the cable on the MagSafe chargers made them the worst ever), but I don't miss it too much. I'm fairly excited about the convenience of the future of everything being USB-C powered - if all laptops and other devices move to that (ignoring iPhones & iPads), then we could see a future where places just have USB-C chargers built in.
Public transport, coffee shops, airports, etc, etc knowing that they'd catch a good portion of people. It's about time we had a standard port for charging laptops.
Public transport, coffee shops, airports, etc, etc knowing that they'd catch a good portion of people. It's about time we had a standard port for charging laptops.
Agreed. The point of failure was always near the power adapter and had nothing to do with MagSafe. Apple could've used a plug on the adapter with MagSafe too but they chose not to, probably because they wanted to sell more adapters. Blaming MagSafe for this poor quality adapter connection is the very definition of "Apple apologist" because it makes no sense. Yes the new adapter is better but it comes with the loss of MagSafe functionality which is a pretty bitter pill to swallow. A step backwards for some and a step sideways for others. If they made a new MagSafe they could've put that on both sides of the laptop in addition to USB-C since it's not going to use any USB-C bandwidth.
This sums up so much the mindset of a certain cohort of MacRumors posters. MagSafe was great. So easy to connect the cord in the dark too, you didn't even have to look! Yes it disconnected easily in certain situations when moving the laptop but that was only when the cord didn't have enough slack and I always accepted this as a reasonable and very minor downside in comparison to its port and laptop-saving abilities!
What bugs me about the loss of MagSafe is not the transition to USB-C, but that Apple cheapened out and didn't bother to design and bundle their own USB-C magnetic adapter or find some other way to keep the functionality (such as a new MagSafe 3 connector on both sides). This just seems lazy and cheap. As if new MBP owners don't have enough new dongles and cords to buy. This is reinforced by their decision to exclude the power extension cord. It all seems to be about cost-cutting and not user experience.
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When my MagSafe cables failed it was ALWAYS at the MagSafe end. It only falls near the brick if you don't wrap the cable right (you need to leave a slack loop at the brick before you start wrapping).
Apple always gave me free replacements - must have gotten more than half a dozen from them by now. As long as you have some Mac under active apple care or warrantee they just hand them out like candy.
Apple always gave me free replacements - must have gotten more than half a dozen from them by now. As long as you have some Mac under active apple care or warrantee they just hand them out like candy.
where can you find this? there was a kickstarter I'm 2015 but no place to buy?The micro-usb ones that have existed for years in Asia for phones are far less lumpy... but as you say, one port becomes charge only, which defeats the removal point in the first place.
[doublepost=1480266699][/doublepost]There are long-existing USB-C ones too.
There are many in shops across Asia and have been for years, but they might not sell in the West for intellectual property reasons.
Check Alibaba?
I do not miss MagSafe—as making a point of retaining a MacBook Pro with that very useful feature. One of the best innovations Apple ever implemented. Ever.
As I've mentioned before—but will repeat—it is not just saving one's computer from being yanked onto the floor, which in itself is all the reason one needs to love this connection and wish to retain it. But also as such a pleasure to use; just get it somewhere in the vicinity and the magnets more or less automatically clip it in place. Brilliant.
Compare that to a tight parsimonious little USB-C plug that one has to push in and near yank out. No contest in ease or pleasure of use.
All the more as the one connection everyone has to use routinely. Why not make it a simple pleasure?
Apple has a lot to answer for of late. Choosing to excise MagSafe for no good reason is near the top of that list of infamy.
As I've mentioned before—but will repeat—it is not just saving one's computer from being yanked onto the floor, which in itself is all the reason one needs to love this connection and wish to retain it. But also as such a pleasure to use; just get it somewhere in the vicinity and the magnets more or less automatically clip it in place. Brilliant.
Compare that to a tight parsimonious little USB-C plug that one has to push in and near yank out. No contest in ease or pleasure of use.
All the more as the one connection everyone has to use routinely. Why not make it a simple pleasure?
Apple has a lot to answer for of late. Choosing to excise MagSafe for no good reason is near the top of that list of infamy.
Ive never tripped over cable for 4 years so dont need it for safety, (i use battery if i use computer at other place than desk)
So dont care about that. But i like how easy it is to connect magsafe and the light indicator. And would rather have magsafe 3 and also 4 usb-c/tb3 ports so i dont need to use one of those ports for charging
So dont care about that. But i like how easy it is to connect magsafe and the light indicator. And would rather have magsafe 3 and also 4 usb-c/tb3 ports so i dont need to use one of those ports for charging