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1. Never compare the iPhone to a car like you did a few posts up there. The car analogy does not/has not ever made sense in here.

2. Coming from someone who has had every single iPhone, the 4S is built extremely better then the 5.

I use a light case on mine and am very careful about it, yet it still scratches, the black chips off and there is nothing anyone can do about it. (except put skins all over it)

3. The LTE on the 5 compared to 3G on a 4S is a night and day difference. At least where I currently live. However, it depends where you live.

4. The speed of the 5 is much faster than a 4S.

The ONLY reason I would never go back to a 4S or lower is because the screen feels so tiny. Yes It's a .5 difference, but ask anyone here how different that .5 difference is. Its crazy. The 4S feels so puny in my hand its funny.
 
just cracked my screen, and I am waiting...

Sadly, I dropped my 4, less than 12". It was the wrong 12" though and my screen was shattered (so much for avoiding a $35 parking ticket). It still works fine and I am holding out until the 5s comes out. If it stops working I will try and replace the screen myself and limp along until the release in late september/early october...

This was our first iPhone, and also the ONLY cell phone that ever lasted past the contract renewal date (and we have had about 15 phones over the years).
 
Yeah, I know that. if he pays for an out of warranty replacement he's obviously trying hard to not upgrade. Since he's on a contract I don't see why he wouldn't upgrade if he actually did need a new phone. Aren't out of warranty replacements 149-200 dollars? Do people enjoy laggy phones? >_> Maybe he doesn't like the new iPhones for some reason.

My 4S doesn't lag. Actually it's better than new.....


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Right? Glad that a real knowledgeable person on the forum here has thought about the same thing.

To me it just seems like the 4S does pretty much everything:
- Takes great pictures
- Great screen brightness
- Very quick and smooth
- Supremely pocketable
- Battery life to get through the day
- Turn by turn directions
- Jailbreak to play gaming emulators with Bluetooth controller
Lets take a look through your list, shall we? :rolleyes:

- Takes great pictures -okay, I'll give you that.
- Great screen brightness -4S's are decent at best. The 5's screen is WAY better than the 4S.
- Very quick and smooth -try loading a simple app like Twitter and come back to me. :rolleyes:
- Supremely pocketable -ill give you that.
- Battery life to get through the day -really? Then why does my 4S have 50% battery by 12 PM with moderate use?
- Turn by turn directions -ill give you that as well.
- Jailbreak to play gaming emulators with Bluetooth controller -what a joke, we're talking about what the 4S actually offers out of the box.

And this is coming from someone who owns a 4S.

It seems like you're trying to justify holding on to an older model, and it also sounds like you're trying to make the 4S seem like a better phone than the 5, WHICH IT IS NOT. I don't understand how people like you can think that your preferences should automatically be everyone else's. Some people like having the greatest technology, so what? There ARE benefits to having the newest product, so don't even try to make it seem like there aren't any.

The 5 is better in many ways over a 4S, including:
-LTE, which is WAY faster than HSPA+ EVEN IN REAL LIFE.
-A6 processor, makes a HUGE difference in gaming and app launch times.
-Much better screen due to it's improved color saturation, and bigger size (which, guess what? Makes a big difference!)
-Better apps that take advantage of the larger screen.

Before you decide to mock others because they like having the latest and greatest, try not to be so ignorant on what the new technology offers.

And by the way, the car analogy is terrible. Phones and cars are COMPLETELY different products.
 
Some people don't feel the need to have the latest and greatest.
I'm keeping my 5 until it no longer is supported by new versions of iOS, and even then, I may still keep it.

We'll see. It's easy for you to say that now as the iPhone 5 is still the newest device. I'm sure that you'll still have the device somewhere in two years time, but as far as actually using it as an active phone I doubt it.
Lets take a look through your list, shall we? :rolleyes:

- Takes great pictures -okay, I'll give you that.
- Great screen brightness -4S's are decent at best. The 5's screen is WAY better than the 4S.
- Very quick and smooth -try loading a simple app like Twitter and come back to me. :rolleyes:
- Supremely pocketable -ill give you that.
- Battery life to get through the day -really? Then why does my 4S have 50% battery by 12 PM with moderate use?
- Turn by turn directions -ill give you that as well.
- Jailbreak to play gaming emulators with Bluetooth controller -what a joke, we're talking about what the 4S actually offers out of the box.

And this is coming from someone who owns a 4S.

It seems like you're trying to justify holding on to an older model, and it also sounds like you're trying to make the 4S seem like a better phone than the 5, WHICH IT IS NOT. I don't understand how people like you can think that your preferences should automatically be everyone else's. Some people like having the greatest technology, so what? There ARE benefits to having the newest product, so don't even try to make it seem like there aren't any.

The 5 is better in many ways over a 4S, including:
-LTE, which is WAY faster than HSPA+ EVEN IN REAL LIFE.
-A6 processor, makes a HUGE difference in gaming and app launch times.
-Much better screen due to it's improved color saturation, and bigger size (which, guess what? Makes a big difference!)
-Better apps that take advantage of the larger screen.

Listen to your own advice for once. Your post leads me to assume that you're a child; I wouldn't expect a child to understand basic financing and the law of diminishing return.
 
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Listen to your own advice for once. Your post leads me to assume that you're a child; I wouldn't expect a child to understand basic financing and the law of diminishing return.

And I sound like a child how? Because I'm defending those who are being attacked for having the "latest and greatest"? I have no problem with the OP keeping their 4S for as long as they want (I have one too!). My problem lies with him/her insulting those that like having the newest phone, like they did last page, calling those who choose to do so "slaves."

Context helps. ;)
 
The 5 is better in many ways over a 4S, including:
-LTE, which is WAY faster than HSPA+ EVEN IN REAL LIFE.
-A6 processor, makes a HUGE difference in gaming and app launch times.
-Much better screen due to it's improved color saturation, and bigger size (which, guess what? Makes a big difference!)
-Better apps that take advantage of the larger screen.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in your post than I can't help you.
 
If you can't see the hypocrisy in your post than I can't help you.

I'm simply listing reasons as to why the 5 is better than the 4S, which the OP seems to suggest isn't true.

If you're implying that I mean to tell the OP to upgrade, well then, you misinterpreted my meaning.
 
I have an 8gb 4 and it works perfectly, no issues with lag etc... I don't have a single app on the handset, just stock and it really runs like a dream and does everything I need it to do

As my contract states I get an upgrade every 6mths I have had 2 ip5's both of which I have given to the mrs and then sold her 'old' iph5 on. E 5 really doesn't do it for me, it feels too fragile and flimsy ... I'm waiting till either the 'cheap' iphone is released and have a look at that but otherwise I will have my 4 indefinitely.
 
I'm simply listing reasons as to why the 5 is better than the 4S, which the OP seems to suggest isn't true.

If you're implying that I mean to tell the OP to upgrade, well then, you misinterpreted my meaning.

Referring back to my first quoted post of yours.

I had beef with you stating how you couldn't understand him trying to pass his preference off as the only choice, but then in that same post you were trying to pass your preference off as how the iPhone 5 was so much better compared to the iPhone 4S. If an individual owns a previous model of something and can't get a substantial gain of features out of the newer model than the newer generation is not better. It may look better on paper, but from a financial standpoint it isn't.
 
I've kept the 4S and given away the 5 as a gift. The 5 was a bit faster and if I relied on my phone quite a bit I would definitely upgrade. When iOS 7 comes out it will be tough to stay with the 4S. I hope the 5S build quality is 4Sish otherwise upgrading will be a tough go.
 
I would have stuck with my iPhone 4s until the cows came home. Unfortunately, I am dumb and got the 16GB model on release day. I outgrew the storage on this phone within 6 months of getting it. :(

All I need is a phone with 64GB+ of storage after the next refresh is released. Hopefully, there is a blue plastic iPhone with that option.
 
id keep my 4s forever if it wasnt for the fact that im still paying the same price for my plan...So might as well get the $ from the carrier.
 
I hope that they will drop the price on the 4S (as opposed to just discontinuing it) once the 5S is released and I can buy one off contract. Then I'll put my money to a top of the line iPad 5.
 
I bought a 32gb 5 from AT&T last week and honestly I didn't really like it.

I wish it had a little more weight to it because I like the weight of the 4s. The larger screen is nice in horizontal mode but in vertical mode it's hard to use one hand like I do w/ my 4s. The black 5 scratches WAY too easily around the band. Battery life wasn't noticeably better compared to the 4s and I didn't notice any real difference in speed either when opening apps and games compared to the 4s.

And last but not least even though I'm in the Orlando area it would often switch from LTE to 4g so needless to say I returned it am happy to be back using my 32gb 4s.
 
Right? Glad that a real knowledgeable person on the forum here has thought about the same thing.

To me it just seems like the 4S does pretty much everything:
- Takes great pictures
- Great screen brightness
- Very quick and smooth
- Supremely pocketable
- Battery life to get through the day
- Turn by turn directions
- Jailbreak to play gaming emulators with Bluetooth controller

I mean does the 5 (or soon to be 5S) really make THAT much an improvement over the 4S to justify a new contract for a $650 phone? The only "significant" improvement that I see in the 5 is the inclusion of LTE... yet stat geeks treat LTE like it really makes a difference in real world performance vs HSPA+ :confused:

When I think about what I really want from my iPhone, it's ...
- iMessage
- Text messaging
- Phone
- Facebook
- Instagram
- Email
- Weather
- Camera (not high end or anything, I have my P&S for vacations and such)
- Maps

Sure I guess it would be "nice" to have some other features (i can't really think of anything to be honest) but in reality, those are what I really want from my phone. Right now my phone exceeds those things, as I have over 100 apps ... including games. I don't use them, but I have them and they work. The phone is more than capable.

LTE would be "nice" but it doesn't bother me that much because 1) HSPA+ here is 8-10 Mb/s and 2) my plan is not very big ... I'd run out of data in 5 minutes if I really used LTE to its potential (streaming video). But for checking email.. HSPA+ and LTE are the same.

I'm just going to let another line on my account use the upgrade as they still have an iPhone 4 8GB. I don't really need a new phone and my 4S 32GB will outlast their phone by a long shot. :)

*Edit* I also have my iPad. If I really wanted to do some recreational stuff ... I could do it on that. I can just leave my phone for my communication means.

I know they're fine now. Eventually they'll start to lag with newer ios versions no matter how new the actual phone is.

That's why I'm still on iOS 5.1.1 :D
But if I ever have to update, like some of my apps start requiring iOS 6 or 7, then I will. Should still be good enough.
 
Not holding onto my 4S until the wheels fall off, rather I am waiting until the 5S comes out. At that time I will upgrade.
 
I have a 4s currently and could upgrade to the 5s this October...

... but the thought has crossed my head: Should I just keep my 4s until it breaks, and THEN simply get an out-of-warranty replacement to keep the game going?

Anyone else out there thinking this same way?

There were millions of iPhone 4s units produced. It's not like you're going to be able to take it on antiques roadshow in a few years and get it appraised for 5K.

I'd suggest you take advantage of the subsidy while it still exists. Any year now, Verizon and AT&T are going to eliminate the the subsidy and make you pay off your phone in installments. Oh, and they won't lower the monthly bill one cent either.
 
Well I have iPhone 4 and Samsung Galaxy S3 and not upgrading to new iPhone unless there's one with bigger screen.
 
I have a 4s currently and could upgrade to the 5s this October...

... but the thought has crossed my head: Should I just keep my 4s until it breaks, and THEN simply get an out-of-warranty replacement to keep the game going?

Anyone else out there thinking this same way?

Really? I can't think of ANY reason why this would make sense. The 5 is faster, lighter, larger, etc etc...

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There were millions of iPhone 4s units produced. It's not like you're going to be able to take it on antiques roadshow in a few years and get it appraised for 5K.

I'd suggest you take advantage of the subsidy while it still exists. Any year now, Verizon and AT&T are going to eliminate the the subsidy and make you pay off your phone in installments. Oh, and they won't lower the monthly bill one cent either.

Agreed.
 
My Dad has an iPhone 4 (in excellent condition, too) and there is no lag for now. I am sure that will change with iOS 7. He wants to keep it forever. All he uses it for is Safari and Email. I wonder how many years he can get out of just using Safari and Email?
 
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