To expand on this a bit, here is the breakdown:
Processor: 7.7
Memory: 7.7
Graphics: 7.9
Gaming Graphics: 6.0
Primary Hard Disk: 5.8
Overall was 5.8 as it's determined by the lowest subscore (microsoft logic)
Picture is worth .... 5.8 words...
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To expand on this a bit, here is the breakdown:
Processor: 7.7
Memory: 7.7
Graphics: 7.9
Gaming Graphics: 6.0
Primary Hard Disk: 5.8
Overall was 5.8 as it's determined by the lowest subscore (microsoft logic)
Picture is worth .... 5.8 words...
Yep did a bootcamp install of it and aside from the sound being on the very soft side if none at all even with OSX drivers from the Leopard CD I'm actually considering buying a copy.
I think its a minor but really direct upgrade to Vista, everything seems a little more polished and thought out. Throw everything you've known or thought about Vista when using this because as minor as it is cosmetically it seems well thought out.
I got the same 5.8 on HDD and 7.7-7.8 on the CPU/MEM/Graphics.
I think its a minor but really direct upgrade to Vista, everything seems a little more polished and thought out. Throw everything you've known or thought about Vista when using this because as minor as it is cosmetically it seems well thought out.
I got the same 5.8 on HDD and 7.7-7.8 on the CPU/MEM/Graphics.
Got mine working (had to make a new .ISO and burn another disc after the 'select CD 1, 2 error 
), and it's not too bad!
Does it feel like a whole new OS? No, no, and no. Windows 7 is nothing but a huge service pack for Vista. Bug fixes, user interface updates, and a snazzy new dock-like taskbar (Apple should sue). I certainly won't be paying for Windows 7, that's for sure. It's like paying for a service pack!
), and it's not too bad! Does it feel like a whole new OS? No, no, and no. Windows 7 is nothing but a huge service pack for Vista. Bug fixes, user interface updates, and a snazzy new dock-like taskbar (Apple should sue). I certainly won't be paying for Windows 7, that's for sure. It's like paying for a service pack!
Are you all running any kind of striping? or are you running OSX on a single disk? I think I get that same rating for disk access on my laptop running Windows 7...
Are you also running the nvidia 8800 GT? or the ATI card?
That's still pretty rad...
No striping on the Windows 7 partition, just a single disk, in fact the stock 320gb WD my MP came with. I don't think that we could do a raid 0 setup for the bootcamp partition anyway (correct me if I'm wrong).
I would really like to do Raid 0 for my OS X setup, but from what I can tell you can not partition within the stripe set... it has to be one big partition. Not really wanting to have one big 1.8tb system drive.
I'm running the Nvidia 8800 GT.
Not working for me yet.
I burned a DVD from the ISO, using Jowie's method to re-create the ISO and burn a new DVD using ImgBurn. I followed the instructions to a T.
I went through BootCamp, put in the new disk, and was able to start loading up windows. It let me reformat the partition to NTFS, and started the install, but then I got an error message saying I had a missing or corrupt file (error 0x80076570).
I think I saw someone else post a similar problem, but I can't find it now.
My gear: Early-2008 Mac Pro, 2 x quad core, 4 GB, 8800 GT. I tried this using the stock 320GB WD drive that came with the Mac Pro.
I burned a DVD from the ISO, using Jowie's method to re-create the ISO and burn a new DVD using ImgBurn. I followed the instructions to a T.
I went through BootCamp, put in the new disk, and was able to start loading up windows. It let me reformat the partition to NTFS, and started the install, but then I got an error message saying I had a missing or corrupt file (error 0x80076570).
I think I saw someone else post a similar problem, but I can't find it now.
My gear: Early-2008 Mac Pro, 2 x quad core, 4 GB, 8800 GT. I tried this using the stock 320GB WD drive that came with the Mac Pro.
I've wasted a DVD (select CD-ROM Type problem), so I'm going to try the partition method. Is there anything particularly clever I need to do other than creating a new FAT partition (I assume it has to be FAT, anyway), make that bootable, and copy the DVD contents?
Then I assume I just hold Option on reboot and select that partition...
Just waiting for the resizing to happen, then I'll try it, but thought it prudent to ask.
Then I assume I just hold Option on reboot and select that partition...
Just waiting for the resizing to happen, then I'll try it, but thought it prudent to ask.
I've wasted a DVD (select CD-ROM Type problem), so I'm going to try the partition method. Is there anything particularly clever I need to do other than creating a new FAT partition (I assume it has to be FAT, anyway), make that bootable, and copy the DVD contents?
Then I assume I just hold Option on reboot and select that partition...
Just waiting for the resizing to happen, then I'll try it, but thought it prudent to ask.
The partition must have a Vista/Win7 style Volume Boot Record.
Basically, it's a bit of code at the start of the partition that loads
'bootmgr'. If you create the partition using Vista or Server 2008,
it appears that this VBR is created automatically. Since Windows
7 uses a similar booting mechanism to Vista[1], you can probably
use a Vista installation disc in recovery mode. There are utilities
to format partitions and repair VBR boot sectors.
It is also possible to create this VBR by booting off the Win7 ISO
in VMWare Fusion. There may be other methods. It might even be
possible just to grab the sectors from someone else's VBR using
dd (see below) and use those. That would likely also copy the
unique partition signature, but that's not necessarily a problem.
I'll look into it and if it seems like a viable option, I could make
available my VBR sectors in a downloadable file.
Copying the VBR sectors (as root), something like:
Code:
dd if=/dev/disk0s3 of=/tmp/vbr bs=512 count=63[1] Note: Windows 7 has introduced a new feature. If you give
it a whole disk to play with, the installer creates 2 partitions. One
is used for the boot files (bootmgr, etc.), and the other is the usual
system partition. In some ways this is similar to the Vista EFI boot
scheme.
Hmm, damn. I can't see a way to add a physical drive to a VMWare Fusion VM. Parallels (I only have v3) will allow me to do this, but doesn't support 64-bit virtualisation! >_<
Seems like I'm going to have to spend ages installing it into a VM just to do the ISO back-and-forth.
Seems like I'm going to have to spend ages installing it into a VM just to do the ISO back-and-forth.
Hmm, damn. I can't see a way to add a physical drive to a VMWare Fusion VM. Parallels (I only have v3) will allow me to do this, but doesn't support 64-bit virtualisation! >_<
Seems like I'm going to have to spend ages installing it into a VM just to do the ISO back-and-forth.
/Library/Application\ Support/VMware\ Fusion/vmware-rawdiskCreator --help
ps
Make sure your partition is active before trying to boot off it. Running fdisk as root
under OS X will allow you to make a partition active (flag command).
I have been trying to load Windows 7 in my Mac Pro on my secondary 320GB hard drive and keep getting "Setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing partition..." Does anybody know how to fix this? I have already partition the drive using the Boot Camp Assistant and formatted it with the Windows 7 Install DVD.
Try just using the partition that boot camp creates. Do not reformat with windows.
I've already tried that and still get the same error message.
Thanks for the reply though.
I've already tried that and still get the same error message.
If your going to dedicate the whole drive to Windows then try this... when you boot off of the Windows 7 DVD and are in the partitioning section, delete ALL the partitions off of the drive you want to install Windows on... then add 1 partition of whatever size you wish (whole drive or less if you want more than 1 partition in windows). Then install to that newly created partition. If it complains, reboot and try again, that happened to me and after the 2nd boot win 7 installed just fine to the 320.
Hope that helps... The bootcamp assistant is truly unnecessary, especially if you are installing to a drive that will be solely for windows. It's mainly useful when you need to break up an existing single OS X partition to make room for a windows partition on the drive. You can always pop a windows install CD/DVD in, hold down C and it will boot into the install even if you have never run the bootcamp assistant.
I tried installing the Windows 7 beta. It was the first time I'd ever tried using Boot Camp. Kind of a pain in the butt, because Boot Camp couldn't install a Windows partition... I had to do a Time Machine backup of OS X, reinstall OS X, then make a partition for Windows, installed Windows 7, then restored from Time Machine.
Several hours of waiting. Afterwards, I couldn't get the video driver to work (2600XT), and it got so annoying I dumped Windows 7. But I realized I would like to have Windows on here, just in case.
So I went to Microcenter, bought another hard drive and an OEM copy of 64-bit Vista. I moved my OS X installation from the original hard drive (the 300GB one) to the new one (1TB)... had planned to install Vista on the old one, which I put in bay 4... but during the Vista installation, it said the computer couldn't boot from that drive. I wonder if there's some limitation that the computer can't boot from a drive in bay 4.
In the end, I just split the new hard drive 50/50... OS X on one half, Vista on the other. At least the installation went smoothly.
Now if only I could get my Duet to work in Vista (not holding breath). Heheheh.
Several hours of waiting. Afterwards, I couldn't get the video driver to work (2600XT), and it got so annoying I dumped Windows 7. But I realized I would like to have Windows on here, just in case.
So I went to Microcenter, bought another hard drive and an OEM copy of 64-bit Vista. I moved my OS X installation from the original hard drive (the 300GB one) to the new one (1TB)... had planned to install Vista on the old one, which I put in bay 4... but during the Vista installation, it said the computer couldn't boot from that drive. I wonder if there's some limitation that the computer can't boot from a drive in bay 4.
In the end, I just split the new hard drive 50/50... OS X on one half, Vista on the other. At least the installation went smoothly.
Now if only I could get my Duet to work in Vista (not holding breath). Heheheh.
I ran an MD5 checker on the ISO I downloaded; turned out it was corrupt.
Downloaded the ISO again, confirmed the correct MD5, burned a new DVD, and this time it loaded like a dream. I did not have to go through the re-build with ImgBurn.
It's running very well now; glad I took the time to figure it out.
I guess my only complaint was the promise that installation would be shorter. It's not, but it's not longer either. I just through 8GB of memory onto my board and Win7 absolutely flies. I haven't looked at the experience index, but it's not like it can tell me anything I didn't already know.
I am not even able to install on parallels.....
basically when i try to install the 64 bit I get the prompt like for the other user, where it ask me to load drivers (with parallels 4); so i cannot even create an image to continue the process.
When i try to boot from bootcamp, i get the selection screen with the 2 empty choices and the keyboard does not work.
I have read about this for the past 4 days, and i am not still able to understand why is not possible to resolve this problem for mac pro 1.1 users, that invested in a frikkin machine so they can install both os for a decent amount of years? damn you apple
is there any firmware upgrade for the 1,1 mac pro to support 64 bit? otherwise is there a place where i can download whatever driver parallel is asking me to install W7 64 on parallels 4?
otherwise, is there anyone out there that did already a compatible image of the os to be ready to install on mac pro 1.1? i have legal keys and i don't see any issue in making available a w7 64 bit iso that we can download and use our own key.....any good souls did this?
Thanks in advance....good thing that i have got also the 32 version, but in this case i stick with vista 32 at this point and just return w7 64 (is still sealed, since the guy at the store told me that probably the 64 bit version will not work on my ancient mac pro 1.1) and just keep the 32 beta until it works
basically when i try to install the 64 bit I get the prompt like for the other user, where it ask me to load drivers (with parallels 4); so i cannot even create an image to continue the process.
When i try to boot from bootcamp, i get the selection screen with the 2 empty choices and the keyboard does not work.
I have read about this for the past 4 days, and i am not still able to understand why is not possible to resolve this problem for mac pro 1.1 users, that invested in a frikkin machine so they can install both os for a decent amount of years? damn you apple
is there any firmware upgrade for the 1,1 mac pro to support 64 bit? otherwise is there a place where i can download whatever driver parallel is asking me to install W7 64 on parallels 4?
otherwise, is there anyone out there that did already a compatible image of the os to be ready to install on mac pro 1.1? i have legal keys and i don't see any issue in making available a w7 64 bit iso that we can download and use our own key.....any good souls did this?
Thanks in advance....good thing that i have got also the 32 version, but in this case i stick with vista 32 at this point and just return w7 64 (is still sealed, since the guy at the store told me that probably the 64 bit version will not work on my ancient mac pro 1.1) and just keep the 32 beta until it works
If you've already got Vista installed, have you tried upgrading it with Win7? When I installed 7, I just used the XP partition that I already had. The guy who told you Win7 64 won't work is flat out wrong, I'm running it right now.
Yes i'm running windows 7 ultimate on my 08 Mac Pro here's my youtube video of me running it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AobEXL_7wLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AobEXL_7wLo
I tried to upgrade, but vista is 32 bit, so it does not even see the drive when i install
I tried also to partition the drive launching xp under parallels and using a partition utility....no luck with the 64; the 32 install just fine (finished to isntall it 1 hour ago and it runs just fine) so i exclude that is anything related to my mistake in partitioning (after installing for 15 years windows almost every week....).
Skyline and fast shadow; you have a new mac pro, not the 1.1, so you are blessed with the 64 bit EFI, something that the mac 1.1 does not have, since they still have the 32 bit EFI...that's the reason why you can install it easily and without issues
You can check if the OS is running at 32 or 64 in system profiler, under the software category on the left list; if you see
64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes
Then you are running the new EFI; to me it shows
64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
Even after rebooting and keeping pressing the 6 and 4 keys (while if you wanna boot in 32 bit gotta press the 3 and 2 at the boot); so is not a matter of how easy is to install it on a machine that is ready for that OS
I tried also to partition the drive launching xp under parallels and using a partition utility....no luck with the 64; the 32 install just fine (finished to isntall it 1 hour ago and it runs just fine) so i exclude that is anything related to my mistake in partitioning (after installing for 15 years windows almost every week....).
Skyline and fast shadow; you have a new mac pro, not the 1.1, so you are blessed with the 64 bit EFI, something that the mac 1.1 does not have, since they still have the 32 bit EFI...that's the reason why you can install it easily and without issues
You can check if the OS is running at 32 or 64 in system profiler, under the software category on the left list; if you see
64-bit Kernel and Extensions: Yes
Then you are running the new EFI; to me it shows
64-bit Kernel and Extensions: No
Even after rebooting and keeping pressing the 6 and 4 keys (while if you wanna boot in 32 bit gotta press the 3 and 2 at the boot); so is not a matter of how easy is to install it on a machine that is ready for that OS
Again, that isn't true, I had no problems installing Win7 64 bit, and I have the same generation of Mac Pro you do.
Wow, The reason I went to a Mac was to ditch MS OS, Its buggy, its slow, and down right 10 years behind the times!
My friend installed IE 8 on his box and the webpages went nuts. Flashing, closing down all kinds of wierd stuff.
I just can't wait till developers will make all apps for Mac's.
Did I hear anyone whisper FANBOY?
MS Windows 7 is probably the most stable OS I have ever used. SL is far from perfect. It has many bugs in and about itself. Win7 and SL are both great. Each with their own ups and downs. But in my opinion Win7 is a must for Mac Pro owners who want to run Windows on their systems.