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Let me rephrase... For older people, with families, who don't use absurd amounts of cellular data, and like to keep their phones to pass down to their spouse/kids - Next is a ripoff.

At a certain point in your life... That group is pretty much everyone you know.

I share the 4GB plan with my wife and kid. We are all on the 5s. We are almost always on wifi. None of us need to upgrade. Why is Next a ripoff? If I kept unlimited, I am paying for data I don't use and a subsidy without upgrading.
 
Since I buy my phones outright it ends up costing the same to upgrade yearly vs. bi-yearly. The decrease in resale value is not worth skipping a generation.
 
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I'm coming from android but i can understand why people here wouldn't upgrade. It isn't cheap after all and i imagine a lot can only afford every 2 years.

Chances are i will upgrade every year but would certainly sell a week before the event to fund the new phone. looking forward to my 6S+
 
Passing here. Keeping my 6 plus. Also don't want to buy another Vaja leather cover (due to an increase in phone thickness after spending $75.00 on my favorite cover.
 
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I'm coming from android but i can understand why people here wouldn't upgrade. It isn't cheap after all and i imagine a lot can only afford every 2 years.

Chances are i will upgrade every year but would certainly sell a week before the event to fund the new phone. looking forward to my 6S+

There really is no difference the week before or the week after. It is not like you are "sneaking" it past someone. The price for a mint phone will get you the same in the same month of launch.
 
Let me rephrase... For older people, with families, who don't use absurd amounts of cellular data, and like to keep their phones to pass down to their spouse/kids - Next is a ripoff.

At a certain point in your life... That group is pretty much everyone you know.
How is Next a ripoff? Its simply an interest free payment plan used to buy hardware. They divide the payments into 20 equal amounts and let you pay over the span of 20 months interest free. You have the option of paying for the device anytime you like. You can pay in full at the start if you want. How is this a ripoff?
 
There really is no difference the week before or the week after. It is not like you are "sneaking" it past someone. The price for a mint phone will get you the same in the same month of launch.
I doubt that

The price of the phone would clearly drop a fair bit when the new one is out
 
I doubt that

The price of the phone would clearly drop a fair bit when the new one is out

not a week before....3 weeks to a month, sure. That is why a lot of sites you sell to give you 30 day quotes. The price over any 30 day span is pretty close to the same.
 
I considered upgrading after the keynote, then thought about it more last night. There is not one single feature that compells me to upgrade from my 6. Yes, the better camera is certainly enticing, but I think I'm going to skip the 6s and wait for the 7.

I'll look forward to iOS 9 instead.
 
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Passing here. Keeping my 6 plus. Also don't want to buy another Vaja leather cover (due to an increase in phone thickness after spending $75.00 on my favorite cover.

The 6s Plus is 0.2mm thicker. Not 2mm thicker, but 20% of 1mm. That is basically the width of a hair. Probably even thinner than hair since I think hair has a .04mm thickness.
 
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The 6+/6S+ weight difference is not as much as I thought. It turns out my clear TPU case is 27g. I cannot really tell the difference in weight with the case on and with it off. Size I can feel but not so much the weight. Its already "heavy".
 
Looks like the 6s has some solid new features, but nothing that comes close to warranting a new purchase for me as a 6 owner.

Definitely a no go.
 
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It is really easy to replace the battery on the 5 - get a kit off Amazon or eBay. I did mine a year ago and the battery is still better than ever!
Well, I don't know if it's my battery or not. The phone's also getting hot all the time so I suspect the A6 is constantly doing something which also draws power. And I'm not going to replace the logic board. It costs way more than the phone's worth.
 
Can't justify the Canadian price this year. I have been upgrading every year, but with the price as is, I am skipping.

I used to upgrade iPad every year, but Apple pulled the stupid iPad mini 3 with only touch-Id and same internals. It killed my "fan-boy" status and stopped my annual upgrade urge.

Thank you Apple for saving me money and cured my bad annual upgrade habit.
 
Let me rephrase... For older people, with families, who don't use absurd amounts of cellular data, and like to keep their phones to pass down to their spouse/kids - Next is a ripoff.

At a certain point in your life... That group is pretty much everyone you know.

Not always. But since you're not going to be in the place to be open to explanation as to why, I won't talk about it any longer.
 
Am hoping the iP7 will have a larger screen to body ratio, the upper and lower bezel space just seems too wide....and that Samsung S6 Edge is lush, the way it has that infinity pool effect...streets ahead of the iphone design.
 
Not always. But since you're not going to be in the place to be open to explanation as to why, I won't talk about it any longer.

Why am I going to pay AT&T a single dime more for the "privilege" of paying for my phone in installments?

With my two year contract, I pay $199 (no sales tax when bought in DE) + $40 x 24mo + $40 activation = $1199. The phone is then mine to do with as I please.

With Next, I'd pay $22 x 24mo +$25 x 24mo = $1128. Then, if I want to keep that phone, I'd have to pay the remaining installments, so $22 x 6mo = $132. For a grand total of $1260. If I didnt want to keep the phone for whatever reason - I'm essentially "selling" my two year phone to them for under market value, furthering their profit off me even more.

Even *if* I had to buy in state and pay sales tax... That would be $45. Still leaving me giving AT&T more money than I would have otherwise. That's what I call a ripoff.

Dont fool yourself into thinking they came up with this scheme out of the kindness of their heart. Multiply those dollars by the millions of customers they're duping into this plan and it pads their bottom line by a pretty good margin.
 
Why am I going to pay AT&T a single dime more for the "privilege" of paying for my phone in installments?

With my two year contract, I pay $199 (no sales tax when bought in DE) + $40 x 24mo + $40 activation = $1199. The phone is then mine to do with as I please.

With Next, I'd pay $22 x 24mo +$25 x 24mo = $1128. Then, if I want to keep that phone, I'd have to pay the remaining installments, so $22 x 6mo = $132. For a grand total of $1260. If I didnt want to keep the phone for whatever reason - I'm essentially "selling" my two year phone to them for under market value, furthering their profit off me even more.

Even *if* I had to buy in state and pay sales tax... That would be $45. Still leaving me giving AT&T more money than I would have otherwise. That's what I call a ripoff.

Dont fool yourself into thinking they came up with this scheme out of the kindness of their heart. Multiply those dollars by the millions of customers they're duping into this plan and it pads their bottom line by a pretty good margin.



You have a really hard time reading, I see. Like I said, though, we will just leave it at that.
 
I want to read some reviews and know the RAM specs before making a final decision.

I'm leaning towards upgrading since I am on an iPhone 5, but I buy my phones full retail and therefore want to be absolutely sure of my choice. It will probably be late November or early December before I buy anything. This way, I'll know about any issues with the device and also avoid waiting in lines.

In the meantime, iOS 9 will tide me over.
 
I'll be upgrading, from a 5s. Probably will get the 64Gb silver on Verizon and will pay full price. This may be the first time I sell and older model to offset the cost.
 
I had been hoping to get one, but my old phone died about a month ago so I just got a 6+ I'll probably skip this one and maybe get the 7, but more likely wait for the 7S as I tend to like S updates better.
I agree. Although I've bought every model my S type iPhones have all been usefully better than the non S models.

This new 6S despite Apples big hype and claims that "everything" is better, those who have 6 and 6 Plus like I do know it's not a completely new model. In my use case, even though I use the greate majority of features during a 14 hour day, the 6S fails to excite me.

There's not one new feature of benefit for my usage. Even as an early adopter I'll have no hesitation passing on spending nearly $1,000 on a bloody phone like I did last year.

Oh sure there'll be plenty of users arguing that resale of the 6 and 6 Plus will cover it. But I'm not interested in the hassle of selling or small dollar credit of trading it in.

Finally it took the first five months of ownership for Apple to keep supplying replacements till I got one that worked properly. The likelihood of going through that costly time wasting hassle is more than I care to gamble on. What once worked doesn't, mainly because Apple is just another mainstream company these days.

My very reliable 6 Plus is looking better by the minute. I'll get my work done while others are doing Apples beta testing for free. :)
 
I paid 1100 for my 6 plus in January and 400 for a watch in april. Going to hold on for another year for the 7 as i like phone redesigns. I have an upgrade available and might use it to get my mother a rose gold iphone. Her note 4 edge freezes at unexpected times. They should have made an all black phone.
 
It certainly is not a big upgrade this year. ...but I need "muh memmory"! The difference between my Air 2 and my 6+ is not insignificant. With all the OS add ons, I think iOS 9 is going to really need it.
 
Why am I going to pay AT&T a single dime more for the "privilege" of paying for my phone in installments?

With my two year contract, I pay $199 (no sales tax when bought in DE) + $40 x 24mo + $40 activation = $1199. The phone is then mine to do with as I please.

With Next, I'd pay $22 x 24mo +$25 x 24mo = $1128. Then, if I want to keep that phone, I'd have to pay the remaining installments, so $22 x 6mo = $132. For a grand total of $1260. If I didnt want to keep the phone for whatever reason - I'm essentially "selling" my two year phone to them for under market value, furthering their profit off me even more.

Even *if* I had to buy in state and pay sales tax... That would be $45. Still leaving me giving AT&T more money than I would have otherwise. That's what I call a ripoff.

Dont fool yourself into thinking they came up with this scheme out of the kindness of their heart. Multiply those dollars by the millions of customers they're duping into this plan and it pads their bottom line by a pretty good margin.
You're math is close but missing the remainder of the comparison. Next is cheaper in the first two years, $1128 vs $1199. You went on to show the payoff of the phone with 6 remaining months and gave a total of $1260 but you forgot something. On next during those 6 months you pay $25 per month to have the device on your plan. In those same 6 months on the 2-year plan you pay $40 per month because you are not on Next. So if we do the math for the additional 6 months we have $1128+$132+$25x6=$1410. 2-year would be $1199+$40x6=$1439. You would save $29 by going with Next when looking at the 30 months. You're not being ripped.

In addition, the correct number is $21.64 per month but you rounded up to $22 which gives you about $10.80 in your favor on Next.
 
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