All iPads Anyone think TouchID wasn't added into the Air or rMini due to technical issues?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Señor, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. Señor macrumors 6502


    Jun 20, 2013
    United States
    TouchID obviously needs a lot of work because of all the errors reading and recording your fingerprint.

    Look at Siri, he/she was in Beta since the iPhone 4S and took until the 5S to perfect. That's two years.

    It's obvious that this is the same thing TouchID is going through. I don't think it'll be "perfected" until the 6S.
  2. Pressure macrumors 68040


    May 30, 2006
    It works fine on the iPhone 5s.

    So why wouldn't it be fine on another similar product?
  3. gr8tfly macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2006
    ~119W 34N
    I doubt it's a technical issue, although I'm sure there will be improvements through subsequent generations. I don't have any problem with the sensor on my 5s.

    The more TouchID is used, the more easily it will read a fingerprint. There's a way to speed up that "learning" process by repeatedly having the system recognize a print while in the TouchID setting (where the list of taught prints are). When the print is recognized, the entry will highlight. Spend a few minutes "pushing the envelope" of where it will recognize a finger. You should find your miss rate go down.
  4. FrozenDarkness macrumors 65816

    Mar 21, 2009
    i have heard nothing but good things about touchID. you sir are incorrect
  5. locust76 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 23, 2009
    TouchID works fine. It's been suggested that the iPad doesn't have it because the iPad is a device that'S shared more among other people, whereas the iPhone is mostly a one-person device.
  6. devdaniel macrumors newbie

    Nov 22, 2013
    My personal opinion would be that Apple intentionally left this feature out. Might be best to check iFixIt's teardown to be sure though.
  7. Lucille Carter, Nov 22, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2013

    Lucille Carter macrumors 65816

    Jul 3, 2013
    How hard is it to punch in a 4 number pass code?

    just as fast as resting ones finger on the sensor

    I see no reason for it.
  8. Vertigo1 macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2013
    I think it was omitted from the iPad for two reasons alone:

    1. The sensors are likely in short supply and this was probably one reason for the limited supply of the 5S to start with.

    2. You tend to unlock a mobile phone far far more often than you do a tablet, hence the convenience factor of TouchID makes more sense. It doesn't really save much time on a tablet.
  9. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

    Oct 15, 2008
    Too much for me.

    I NEVER had a passcode in the 4 years I've owned iPhones.

    Now with Touch ID, my phone is secure, AND I can unlock the phone faster than ever.

    It's a great feature, and works about 99% of the time instantly.

    Not sure what issues the OP is having, maybe he needs to get a replacement handset.
  10. Breitling65 macrumors 6502

    Mar 3, 2011

    It is due to " next magical device " would need it, otherwise nothing to present in Air2 :)
  11. Trigon macrumors newbie

    Nov 16, 2013
    I would think that Apple doesn't view the tablets as a real high security item, just my guess.

    I'm sure there is a good portion of people that do a lot of business work on it. But it seems the majority of the users I run into are kids or other people that just play on it.

    If there is a way to cut down on costs with out hampering down the product over all, a company will do it.
  12. FrankB1191 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 14, 2013
    The premise of this thread is based on pure conjecture, but I'll chime in. The iPad's sleep/wake cover and cases would seem less relevant if Touch ID were incorporated into its design. I don't have sales figures for those covers and cases, but I've sold accessories; the margin is very high on those products. ;)
  13. Oppressed macrumors 65816


    Aug 15, 2010
    It was omitted to make you buy next year's model.
  14. AbSoluTc macrumors 601


    Sep 21, 2008
    I think Apple thought the iPhone was more of a security concern since said device usually houses a LOT of information about an individual since most people depend on them for everything. Banking, email, contacts, billing, cloud storage access, social media, etc. Everything we are is stored on that device. Logins and access to many sites and apps. It only makes sense for that device to become more secure. Making it faster to unlock that security is even better (aka, touchID).

    iPad - not so much. Maybe later?
  15. locust76 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 23, 2009
    Not really, TouchID, if you do it properly, is much much faster. So fast that you almost don't even see the lock screen.

    If you take an iPhone 5S and click the button to wake up the device but keep your finger there resting on the sensor, it starts scanning as the screen turns on and is unlocked in something like half a second.

    MUCH faster than punching in the passcode.
  16. AbSoluTc macrumors 601


    Sep 21, 2008
    This. Not sure many people realize this is how you do it. It's almost instant. Much faster than click, swipe, enter code and unlock.
  17. Menel macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    Not technical. Logistical.

    I suspect supply constraint for sapphire lenses.

    Next year iPad's will get Touch ID. Apple is spinning up that entirely new sapphire production facility.
  18. Italianblend macrumors 68000


    Mar 21, 2011
    It wasn't added for 1 reason and 1 reason only. So that Apple can come out next year and sell yet a newer ipad that has that feature. People will "have to have" the touch id, and buy a new ipad (again).
  19. JT2002TJ macrumors 6502a

    Nov 7, 2013
    I wished the Air came with it because when in public everyone can see you punching in your code with iOS7. I do it all the time on the train (on my way to work). I watch to see how many people's codes I can see. With iOS6 it wasn't so bad.
  20. ditzy macrumors 68000


    Sep 28, 2007
    I also believe it was for logistical reasons not technical ones. I think that if the iPads had come out three months later they would have had it, as the iPhone rush would have died down. But then they would have missed the Christmas season, which they wouldn't want to do.
  21. OneBagTravel macrumors 6502


    Oct 18, 2013
    The short time I used it on my friends device it worked flawlessly. I'm bummed they didn't add it to the device.

    I might even wait for next year to pick up a retina Mini.
  22. darngooddesign macrumors G3

    Jul 4, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    Considering Touch ID works just fine on the phones, and is no way comparable to Siri, you are just trolling. Señor, you get a wag of the finger.

  23. ActionableMango macrumors G3


    Sep 21, 2010
    No problems here. It works brilliantly on the 5S. Every time I use the iPad I miss the feature.
  24. hologram macrumors 6502

    May 12, 2007
    Really? Were you in on the meetings where this was discussed? You do realize that if you were there, and really know what's going on, you signed a bunch of NDA's and you're going to jail and you'll have to sell everything you own to pay your lawyers. Or are you just pretending to know what you're talking about?

    Personally, I think it's a supply/production/time frame issue, and you're being childishly silly, to think that Apple would sacrifice a unique feature that no other manufacturer has right now, and sacrifice what could be the best holiday season they ever had, just to wait until every other manufacturer is producing the same thing. :rolleyes:
  25. ZipZap macrumors 603

    Dec 14, 2007
    Technical...sort of ...

    Apple is building a facility to grow sapphire say they did not have sufficient supply to accommodate ipads.

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