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Hmm it is NOt in the family iMac upstairs thats odd. trust me when I tell you to TRY 255. I was shocked at the increase.

I did, but only in Dalaran so far, didn't see a huge jump when tons of people where still around me though (went from 19-23 to about 25-30) at both 85 and 255 I was up to 40+ in the bank. :) lol.
 
I did, but only in Dalaran so far, didn't see a huge jump when tons of people where still around me though (went from 19-23 to about 25-30) at both 85 and 255 I was up to 40+ in the bank. :) lol.

so any idea at all why on my family iMac there is no line for affinitymask?
 
If what i've read in the links is correct, their is no point in doing this on machines with 2 cores or less as the game is already properly setup to utilize such a configuration optimaly.

Yep, on a non-HT dual-core you won't see the setting.
 
Well I am in the prosess of buying myself a mac pro with either the radeon 4870 or the geforce 285 GTX. What I am really uncertain of is wheter to get a quad 2.93GHz or a octo 2.26.

I know that when it comes to gaming in general fewer cores and higher clockspeed is what matters but I will also be using this system for videoediting and some music work. Well not professionally but home stuff. And this is where I see octo beeing tempting especially with snow leopard and stuff.

Is there anyone out there that have a 2.26GHZ Octo nehalem and can run world of warcraft on it in 1920x1200 with ultra settings and tell me what framerates they are getting. If it is good enough I will go for the octo if not I will chose the 4 core higher clockspeed. And please dont tell me it runs good enough whichever computer I buy I want framerates.
Framerates for Dalaran starting zone and either naxxramas or ulduar 25 man is interesting.

People helping out is much apreciated :)
 
Im specifically looking for folks using a the Apple 4870 512Mb , any PC 4870, or a 4890 (Hell let me know if you are using the GTX 285 Mac edition also) in combination with a 30" monitor.

If I could get a few responses as to performace that would be great. Im looking at this setup and I play WoW frequently , but that is the ONLY game I play... thanks in advance

I play it on the 30" on my '06 dual-2.66 Mac Pro with a 8800GT, and before that, the 1900XT. I get over 30 fps even in big mobs. The only problem I've had is that the screen is so large that things that take place in the corners are sometimes hard to notice. Seriously. Halo is amazing too, and the extra real estate is very useful in games like Age of Empires.

So if your question really is "can I play this at full rez on a 30", the answer is "absolutely definitely yes". You'll get superb performance on any card over the stock 120's. Bare Feats has benchmarks: http://www.barefeats.com/nehal11.html

Maury
 
Well I have seen the barefeats benchmark and to be honest they close to useless. Running around in narache doesnt give you anything close to a real performance test. I mean even My girlfriends old iMac is close to 40 FPS in narache willage run with everything on max. If she goes to dalaran or are raiding ulduar she hardly gets more than 10 FPS with the specs sett at little under medium. The narache village run tests the gpu a bit, but when it comes to wow the processor is more important and therfor you cant scale the performance beetween narache run or the real raiding performance.
Secondly my brother also have the quad 2.66 GHz Mac Pro with the radeon 1900XT. And that is nowhere near 30 FPS with everything set at max in dalaran and raiding.20 ish yeah maybe, but not more.

So still searching for tests on a 2.26 Ghz Mac Pro
 
Ultra settings on 20" Cinema Display (I know you want 30" results) and I can't complain. 30-50 frames in Dalaran in heavily crowded areas, Ulduar 50-70 frames with 25 people.
Classic areas 100-300 frames, really depends where I am.
Using AffinityMask 15
 
Secondly my brother also have the quad 2.66 GHz Mac Pro with the radeon 1900XT. And that is nowhere near 30 FPS with everything set at max in dalaran and raiding.20 ish yeah maybe, but not more.

So still searching for tests on a 2.26 Ghz Mac Pro

With my 2.6Ghz and the ATI4870, I get 30fps at 2560x1900 with ultra settings, max shadows and affinitymask of 85 I get low 30s in Daralan, 45+ in Ulduar and Naxx (depending on where you are), and 60+ most everywhere else.

Here's Naxx, note FPS in bottom right:
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WoW is mutlithreaded, so its not a directly linear drop in performance moving to the Octo-2.26 (which would be about 15% slower per on a chip basis), so you can probably expect similar numbers to the single 2.6Ghz.
 
Interesting information. I was considering the Quad 2.66 machine with GT120 (I play on a 20" 1680x1050, the GT120 should be enough...)

Could any of you report on the temperatures these machines reach after a 2-3 hours raid session? Do the fans ramp up? An iStat (before/after) screen capture would be extremely helpful! Thanks.
 
Wow you guys. This is really a great thread. I am looking to purchase a 2.66 Quad in the Fall mainly for the purposes of play WoW and to help pursue my desire to self-learn Cocoa coding. I prefer the Mac Pro to an iMac because I don't get stuck with a built in monitor that renders the whole system useless if problems arise-- nor the built in speakers and drive, etc. etc. The Mac Pros seem to have more longevity than the iMacs... i feel like most people still running their Power Mac G5s are still in a pretty happy place right now. haha.

Anyways, great information. This is really helping to solidify my decision to invest in such a high cost system. Really wanting to run dual 24" on a Mac Pro. :)
 
Interesting information. I was considering the Quad 2.66 machine with GT120 (I play on a 20" 1680x1050, the GT120 should be enough...)

Could any of you report on the temperatures these machines reach after a 2-3 hours raid session? Do the fans ramp up? An iStat (before/after) screen capture would be extremely helpful! Thanks.

I don't really have any screen caps, but with SMCfancontrol tweaked a little (mostly still sub 1000's) I get can to 50's in a raid, 36C-40C standard.
 
It was in mine?

SET accounttype "LK"
SET weatherDensity "3"
SET processAffinityMask "85"
SET textureFilteringMode "5"

I changed it to 85, which means use the 4 true cores (not the HT cores) ... The default was 3.

I did this and have tried 255, I run on a 2.26 Octocore with GTX 285, and have to run at about medium settings in raids to stay above 10FPS, where as I spike as high as 100 or so in certain parts of the world, and still stay at 20-25 in Dala, any ideas? I have also tried 85, and still not noticing any difference in Dalaran.
 
I did this and have tried 255, I run on a 2.26 Octocore with GTX 285, and have to run at about medium settings in raids to stay above 10FPS, where as I spike as high as 100 or so in certain parts of the world, and still stay at 20-25 in Dala, any ideas? I have also tried 85, and still not noticing any difference in Dalaran.

Something is definitely wrong... have you downloaded the most recent GTX285 driver update? Your card should be 30% faster then mine. What kind of internet connection you running on?

Here's my config.wtf...
 

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Something is definitely wrong... have you downloaded the most recent GTX285 driver update? Your card should be 30% faster then mine. What kind of internet connection you running on?

Here's my config.wtf...

Considering I just got the card on Friday, I am running the 2F16 update on my card, and I am running on a Cable internet connection. My latency is fine, thats not an issue at all. I think WoW is retarded and doesn't wanted to use all 8 cores or anything, because this is making me mad, I upgraded my system from a Single 3.0GHz Quad Core (2006) with an HD3870 ATI card, to 2 x 2.26GHz Octo Core (2009) with this GTX285 Mac Edition card and am noticing an increase in performance everywhere except in raids and dalaran... Is 6GB of Ram going to be good enough to have good FPS in raids or do I need more? I have heard that due to my lower clock speed on my processor its what is limiting me atm... which pisses me off because my old machine was on its last legs and still under warranty and needed an upgrade, so I went with the 2.26 Octocore because it was most affordable and seemed a little more future proof vs just getting another new quad core nehalem or not.
 
Considering I just got the card on Friday, I am running the 2F16 update on my card, and I am running on a Cable internet connection. My latency is fine, thats not an issue at all. I think WoW is retarded and doesn't wanted to use all 8 cores or anything, because this is making me mad, I upgraded my system from a Single 3.0GHz Quad Core (2006) with an HD3870 ATI card, to 2 x 2.26GHz Octo Core (2009) with this GTX285 Mac Edition card and am noticing an increase in performance everywhere except in raids and dalaran... Is 6GB of Ram going to be good enough to have good FPS in raids or do I need more? I have heard that due to my lower clock speed on my processor its what is limiting me atm... which pisses me off because my old machine was on its last legs and still under warranty and needed an upgrade, so I went with the 2.26 Octocore because it was most affordable and seemed a little more future proof vs just getting another new quad core nehalem or not.

Ok, internet isn't a problem then.

The lower clock speed shouldn't make you that slow, on an individual thread basis you are about 10-15% slower then me, so you should only me 1-3FPS slower then me, not 10-20...

My WoW client does farm itself out over multiple cores with the mask setting (my 85 puts it on the primary thread of every core in my 4-core machine)... You saw no difference between 255 and the default?

6gb should be plenty, I have 8gb... What else are you leaving open when you play?


Apparently most people are still pointing to driver issues at the moment:
"Where the drivers really fall apart is 3D performance. The GTX 285 has three operating states or power consumption modes. Under windows, the drivers are intelligent and work properly with the hardware to ramp up the speed of the GPU and onboard memory when needed. On OSX, the card only wants to ramp up occasionally and it seems only with certain CUDA functions. So the problem with the card is that it's typically stuck operating at it's slowest speed when in OSX. It could also be an EFI issue. The BIOS obviously works fine as the card performs properly under Windows. However, the problem under OSX is most certainly driver, and possibly EFI, related. I remain hopeful that it will be fixed. It's being discussed at Macrumors, Macforums, Apple forums and the EVGA community. Everyone is bitching about it. The current work-around is to load a small CUDA demo app that will kick the GPU into high gear and then leave that running while running an app that we want to benefit from the faster GPU settings."

Try doing that thing with loading a small CUDA app while going to go play WoW.

Try turning off shadows for now....
 
Alright I will try that and see how it works. Atm I am usually runnin at most like Vent/MSN Messenger in the background, and on occasion skype, nothing too massive. Do you know of any good CUDA demo apps that would work for this?
 
Alright I will try that and see how it works. Atm I am usually runnin at most like Vent/MSN Messenger in the background, and on occasion skype, nothing too massive. Do you know of any good CUDA demo apps that would work for this?

check out the GTX285 thread in the macpro forum, there's a guy there that has some I think. Otherwise I know BOINC supports it so you could turn on seti@home or milkyway@home....
 
Yeah tried it, and had the exact opposite effect, it actually slowed down my computer more. I tried Halo aswell, and that game runs at REALLY low FPS unless I crank my settings way down aswell....
 
Yeah tried it, and had the exact opposite effect, it actually slowed down my computer more. I tried Halo as well, and that game runs at REALLY low FPS unless I crank my settings way down aswell....

Well... on regular Halo on my laptop, which has an FX770 graphics card (9600M) and I get framerate drops as well - personally, I think it is a graphics API issue.

A good game to bench between cards would be a more recent mac game, IMO. ((Of course, assuming the games we are running are OSX native:D))
 
Well... on regular Halo on my laptop, which has an FX770 graphics card (9600M) and I get framerate drops as well - personally, I think it is a graphics API issue.

A good game to bench between cards would be a more recent mac game, IMO. ((Of course, assuming the games we are running are OSX native:D))

The graphics in Wow have been consistently updated over the years with the patches and expansions... it is a modern game. :)
 
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