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tleveque said:
If I go and check my order status on the web site it says now:
Estimated
Shipped By Apr 17, 2006

This is next monday....

If it stays 4 weeks, I may just go buy it @ the store and update online ... I would assume they'd still have the 1.0 version for sale in the store.
 
milo said:
No, the people complaining were whining about a situation they were ignorant of without knowing all the facts.

You do that, you come off looking like an ass. No sympathy from me. Sad that so many mac users are such crybabies that they start blubbering even before details are announced.

You own a copy?
 
iGary said:
You own a copy?

Sorry, what does owning a copy of Aperture have to do with having an opinion on the reactions of some users? Do we ask 16 year old teenagers, "Are you old enough to vote?" if they offer an opinion on their Congressman, Senator or President?

The criticism had nothing to do with Aperture's features, where owning a copy would be relevant. The criticism had to do with the reaction of certain users. Whether you agree with that criticism is another issue, but to try to argue the criticism is invalid because the user doesn't own a copy is, well, not logical.

Sorry to say, but that's the truth.

That being said, Apple did a good thing here. They should be applauded and users should feel grateful that contrary to what a lot of people believe, Apple does apparently listen to users. Just the latest example the company is on a roll.
 
Sorry, what does owning a copy of Aperture have to do with having an opinion on the reactions of some users?

Because a person who owned a copy from the beginning would understand that Aperture 1.0 was more of a Beta than a real release. Dropping the price after spending 500 bucks on a test product would have been a slap in the face without some type of rebate.

That's what it has to do with it.

ust the latest example the company is on a roll.

Yeah, every Apple product I have owned in the last year, except my nano, has had to go in for repair (my G5 is currently having open heart surgery and I blew up two 30" ACD's before I got a good copy).

They're on a roll alright.
 
iGary said:
Yeah, every Apple product I have owned in the last year, except my nano, has had to go in for repair (my G5 is currently having open heart surgery and I blew up two 30" ACD's before I got a good copy).

They're on a roll alright.

REALLY!?!? We have about eight G5 Powermacs (dual 2.0) at work, all with 23" monitors and we have only had issues with 1 of the systems. None of the LCDs have ever had issues so to me, Apple hardware has so far been very robust (knock on wood). What caused your the two 30" LCDs to blow up?
 
Any benchmarks that compare a Power Mac G5 to a iMac Core Duo? I would like to know if it's worth the purchase.
 
Quad G5 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 Not Among Minimum Aperture Video Cards

dekator said:
According to this site: http://www.final-cut-pro.de/stage/_inhalte/berichte/019_fcp_ub_test.shtml?navid=1
FCP 5.1 runs much faster on Intel Macs. Note: the site's in German but even if you don't read German, the graphs speak for themselves. Additional testing confirmed that FCP runs a good 2x faster on a MacBook Pro than on a G5 2x2GHz machine. Even faster on an Intel iMac. As the Mac Mini is essentially notebook technology I suspect it to perfrom on par with the MacBook Pro.
Make sure you read the ensuing discussion on that site for additional testing. (You'll figure out the numbers). So, I think there's a good chance Aperture too will perform pretty good on IntelMacs.
Dekator, you need to copy the URL of where those charts are and then paste it into the URL LINK box in the post interface for it to work. What you put in about does not work.

I noticed when looking at the Aperture Minimum video card specification, that a top-of-the-line state-of-the-fart G5 Quad's Stock NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256 MB of video RAM and one Dual DVI port is TOO WEAK and not listed as a qualifying card. What the heck is up with that? They list a 6800 but not the 6600. Is that a typo or WHAT? :confused: :eek: :mad: :(
 
Multimedia said:
Dekator, you need to copy the URL of where those charts are and then paste it into the URL LINK box in the post interface for it to work. What you put in about does not work.

I noticed when looking at the Aperture Minimum video card specification, that a top-of-the-line state-of-the-fart G5 Quad's Stock NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256 MB of video RAM and one Dual DVI port is TOO WEAK and not listed as a qualifying card. What the heck is up with that? They list a 6800 but not the 6600. Is that a typo or WHAT? :confused: :eek: :mad: :(

Don't know why you look at 3rd party sources when we have Apple.com....:confused:

Minimum System Requirements
One of the following Macintosh computers:
Power Mac G5 with a 1.8 gigahertz (GHz) or faster PowerPC G5 processor
iMac with 1.8GHz or faster PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor
MacBook Pro
15- or 17-inch PowerBook G4 with a 1.25 GHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor
Mac OS X “Tiger” version 10.4.6 (or later)
1GB of RAM
Display with 1280-by-854 (or higher) resolution
One of the following graphics cards:
ATI Radeon x600 Pro or x600 XT
ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition
ATI Radeon X850 XT
ATI Radeon X1600
ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
ATI Radeon 9600, 9600 XT, 9600 Pro, or 9650
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 or 9600
ATI Mobility X1600
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
5GB of disk space for application, sample projects, and tutorial
DVD drive for installation
 
Hardware requirements

ok, got some questions for you.
The price drop sparked my interest, but i am a bit concerned about the hardware requirements. I won't buy a new desktop until PM goes intel, so my question is:
Do you think Aperture would run ok on a PM MD dual 1.25, 1GB RAM, GeForce4 Ti 4600 128 MB?
If so, do you know if Aperture supports RAW files from Leica D-Lux 2?
 
well I installed Aperture 1.1 and it is definitely faster at most things, but still kind of disappointing on my dual 2.0 G5 with 1.5GB RAM.

I also have the annoyance of unsupported camera RAW files from my Pentax SLR, but I have managed, along with a chum, to 'hack' support for it. It has to do with copying some of the Nikon raw.plist into Pentax support since the RAW files are very similar. So far it appears to add support for Pentax RAW files throughout the system, Finder, iPhoto, Preview, Aperture, etc. It's not perfect, but it's a stop gap until Apple finally adds support for a common camera format that's been around for years :rolleyes: ;)
 
Apple is offering Rebate

http://www.apple.com/promo/aperture/

Apple is offering a rebate in the form of an e-coupon to early adopters of Aperture. $200 for retail and $100 for education, which brings my investment of the program to $50 and change.

So much for the theory of Apple screwing early adopters (at least in this instance)
 
kwajo.com said:
well I installed Aperture 1.1 and it is definitely faster at most things, but still kind of disappointing on my dual 2.0 G5 with 1.5GB RAM.
Slow on a dual 2.0 G5 with 1.5GB RAM??? NOW I am getting worried... I have read about other people on MR claiming they can run Aperture 1.0 on a 1.5GHz PB. I just bought Aperture 1.1 and 1GB extra RAM for my MDD. Can someone please verify whether it is possible to run Aperture on an old MDD with 128 MB VRAM.:confused:
I am trying to avoid upgrading my desktop before PM goes Intel.
 
well I mean it runs fine, but it's hardly speedy and at times isn't as smooth as most other programs on my machine. It'll probably run for you, and do everything you need, but i wouldn't expect a speed demon
 
kwajo.com said:
well I mean it runs fine, but it's hardly speedy and at times isn't as smooth as most other programs on my machine. It'll probably run for you, and do everything you need, but i wouldn't expect a speed demon
ok, thanks... I guess I will have to live with a slightly sluggish system until I upgrade. The new PM should arrive soon
 
Aperture Serial Number Q

For those that have aperture and are sending in for the early adopters e-coupon, do you get the serial number from the "about aperture" menu or is it also somewhere on the DVD? If it's in both places, is it the same? I'm awaiting delivery of my copy of aperture and was just wondering.
 
It is nice to see the price drop on Aperture, but I would rather have seen version 2 come out, hopefully it will be soon because I still have some issues with 1.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Slow on a dual 2.0 G5 with 1.5GB RAM??? NOW I am getting worried... I have read about other people on MR claiming they can run Aperture 1.0 on a 1.5GHz PB. I just bought Aperture 1.1 and 1GB extra RAM for my MDD. Can someone please verify whether it is possible to run Aperture on an old MDD with 128 MB VRAM.:confused:
I am trying to avoid upgrading my desktop before PM goes Intel.
I think for what its doing it runs REALLY well on my dual 1.8G5 with 3GB of ram. I love aperture, I had thoughts of going to lightroom during the dark ages of not having a universal version (for my imac I'm selling). But I do have some complaints.

First of all, no matter what you do, you can never have a version in a stack other than the top one appear in a aperture made website.

Secondly, Aperture makes the ugliest and most confusing CSS websites I've ever seen. Not only that, but since they don't have ANY templates that design pure HTML sites, it is difficult to absorb them into an existing CSS website using Dreamweaver templates. I figured out a work around using an include command, but I have to change the .css file it makes to comment out all the "clear: both;" commands it has about 20 times. And this makes the individual pages look bad unless I leave certain editable regions blank so they don't take up space. Come on Apple.
 
dogbone said:
I'm stil waiting for Corel Painter to come out of beta.
It's like that on purpose. They're only trying to help by making sure you suffer for your art.

Aperture is just a case of Apple being Apple. They're too arrogant to ask customers about features and pricing before release time.
 
bluebomberman said:
I agree with the angry mob! Early adopters will be shafted by a $200 price drop. They could have at least waited a few more months to lower the price.

Here's hoping Apple provides rebates for those who paid $499 for beta-quality software.

Ridiculous! When Apple released Aperture, Lightroom wasn't out... there was no competition. Competition always drives price down. Haven't you ever heard that competition is good for consumers?

I think it's amazing that Apple is offering the $200 coupon for online use! There's not a lot of companies that would do that.

Beta-quality? Honestly, have you even used the software?

As far as price is concerned... no one forced anyone to buy the software. I get so tired of hearing this thing. Someone buys something and then Apple either brings out a better version (ipod, computer, software [and almost always at a lower price]) and all of the people who bought 32 days ago piss and moan about getting screwed. Apple has to sell their products. They have to keep moving forward to entice new users.

Everyone knows that computers are always on a cycle and that if they wait just a little bit longer, they'll get something better. At some point, you just have to buy. When Apple comes out later with a better version at a lower price, you just have to get over it.

As far as Apple giving the $200 coupon, I still think it's ABOVE AND BEYOND what any other company would do.
 
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