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Missing NVIDEA 6600 Now Not Missing

Platform said:
Don't know why you look at 3rd party sources when we have Apple.com....:confused:
Thanks Platform. I was looking at the Apple.com site. But somehow when I was looking yesterday, the NVIDEA 6600 wasn't listed. Now I see it is. :confused: Maybe my eyesight is failing or they added it. Seems the Minimum Requirements page I was looking at before was a different one. Oh well. Or perhaps I was looking at the recommended list instead of the minimum list.

Minimum System Requirements
One of the following Macintosh computers:
Power Mac G5 with a 1.8 gigahertz (GHz) or faster PowerPC G5 processor
iMac with 1.8GHz or faster PowerPC G5 or Intel Core Duo processor
MacBook Pro
15- or 17-inch PowerBook G4 with a 1.25 GHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor
Mac OS X “Tiger” version 10.4.6 (or later)
1GB of RAM
Display with 1280-by-854 (or higher) resolution
One of the following graphics cards:
ATI Radeon x600 Pro or x600 XT
ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition
ATI Radeon X850 XT
ATI Radeon X1600
ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
ATI Radeon 9600, 9600 XT, 9600 Pro, or 9650
ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 or 9600
ATI Mobility X1600
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
5GB of disk space for application, sample projects, and tutorial
DVD drive for installation
 
I'll be working with 5-7 MP images. It's doubtful that I'll be working with RAW's. (I'm a poor student. :D ) I might be able to borrow a SLR from our Digital Learning Center. Any clue on the performance on my iMac G5 Rev. B 2.0 GHz?

iPhoto is nice but I want more options.
 
rdbishop said:
Ok, if you use the hardware check workaround to do the installation, then update to 1.01 and then 1.1 Aperture runs on the Core Duo Mini without any modifications to the Aperture application as was required for unsupported hardware. So I guess the new Mac Mini's are supported and this probably will be fixed with the 1.1 boxed version.

Curious as to how it runs. I have been using Lightroom and iPhoto to manage my photo shoots. But I think Aperature could replace about 95% of my work flow. I have a core duo mini with 2gigs. I would love to know if how it works.

thanks
 
G4 PowerMacs Are Out But 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBook Is In?

Dr.Gargoyle said:
ok, got some questions for you.
The price drop sparked my interest, but i am a bit concerned about the hardware requirements. I won't buy a new desktop until PM goes intel, so my question is:
Do you think Aperture would run ok on a PM MD dual 1.25, 1GB RAM, GeForce4 Ti 4600 128 MB?
If so, do you know if Aperture supports RAW files from Leica D-Lux 2?
According to the minimum page, no G4 PowerMacs work with it although my single 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBook does. :confused: I guess it's because your video card isn't in the list of what works. Perhaps if you upgrade your video card to an ATI best AGP for G4 PM it will? I don't know for sure though. :confused:
 
Multimedia said:
According to the minimum page, no G4 PowerMacs work with it although my single 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBook does. :confused: I guess it's because your video card isn't in the list of what works. Perhaps if you upgrade your video card to an ATI best AGP for G4 PM it will? I don't know for sure though. :confused:
So you do use Aperture on your PB? What kind of VC do you have? I was under the impression PB didnt have more than 128MB VRAM and my VC has 128MB VRAM...:confused: Besides, didnt the (supported) 1.8GHz iMac have 64Mb VRAM?
Has anyone here tried Aperture on a PM G4?
Aperture is cheaper now, but not cheap enough to use as a doorstop.
 
You need Core Image support guys. It seems that Aperture's non-destructive editing is based on using Core Image filters to process in real time. Please...don't go on how the FX5200 is supported under Core Image in OS X.
 
Eidorian said:
You need Core Image support guys. It seems that Aperture's non-destructive editing is based on using Core Image filters to process in real time. Please...don't go on how the FX5200 is supported under Core Image in OS X.
So basically I need to upgrade my video card? :confused:
I thought it was all in the VRAM, but apparently I was incorrect in my assumption.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
So basically I need to upgrade my video card? :confused:
I thought it was all in the VRAM, but apparently I was incorrect in my assumption.
Well, it's odd that it runs on 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBooks while it won't on a later era Dual G4 Power Mac. But the GPU follower by the CPU seem to be the biggest components to the program. There's more then likely a workaround. I think there was a mention for the Intel Mac Mini in this thread.
 
Eidorian said:
Well, it's odd that it runs on 1.25 GHz G4 PowerBooks while it won't on a later era Dual G4 Power Mac. But the GPU follower by the CPU seem to be the biggest components to the program. There's more then likely a workaround. I think there was a mention for the Intel Mac Mini in this thread.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the GPU of a PM G4 equal supperior of a PB G4? The CPU is equal at speed, so that can't be it.
Well, I guess I have to get back to you when I have installed the program.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the GPU of a PM G4 equal supperior of a PB G4? The CPU is equal at speed, so that can't be it.
Well, I guess I have to get back to you when I have installed the program.
Once you get a 9600 or a 9800 on your Power Mac G4 you have the an edge over the PowerBook (Mobility GPU vs. Full Card GPU) I still don't see why you can't install it hardware wise on the Power Mac G4. Other then Apple's hardware check and installation lockout.
 
Eidorian said:
Once you get a 9600 or a 9800 on your Power Mac G4 you have the an edge over the PowerBook (Mobility GPU vs. Full Card GPU) I still don't see why you can't install it hardware wise on the Power Mac G4. Other then Apple's hardware check and installation lockout.
I will give it a shot as soon as I get Aperture. I really dont want to invest in a new GPU. As I wrote above, I will be upgrading to a new PM as soon as it goes Intel. (I need to run some applications that are on Windows only) My plan is to have the MDD as a ftp/mail server after I retire it. No need for a fancy GPU as a server.
 
Dr.Gargoyle said:
I will give it a shot as soon as I get Aperture. I really dont want to invest in a new GPU. As I wrote above, I will be upgrading to a new PM as soon as it goes Intel. (I need to run some applications that are on Windows only) My plan is to have the MDD as a ftp/mail server after I retire it. No need for a fancy GPU as a server.
You won't be able to run Aperture unless you have a Radeon 9600 or the NVidia 6xxx series video card or greater. It RELIES on Core Image support.
 
Eidorian said:
You won't be able to run Aperture unless you have a Radeon 9600 or the NVidia 6xxx series video card or greater. It RELIES on Core Image support.
Hmmm, I guess I have to upgrade the GPU then...:(
Anyhow, thanks for your help.
Edit: I just cancelled the order. I don't see any point in getting a $200 GPU to a computer that most likely will retire to a mail server within 6 months. I guess I will have to live with PS...
 
phatpat88 said:
i wonder what adobe is feeling right now :eek:

Probably pretty good. Lightroom is great. They just changed the direction of apple's software developement. Evidently, apple is going to have to do some work to catch up. I know I am going to get some grief for saying this: I use Picasa on an additional windows laptop instead of using iPhoto. I think iPhoto is lacking compared to Picasa.
-Chuck
 
dudemac said:
Curious as to how it runs. I have been using Lightroom and iPhoto to manage my photo shoots. But I think Aperature could replace about 95% of my work flow. I have a core duo mini with 2gigs. I would love to know if how it works.

thanks

Well, I decided to uninstall it on my Mini Core Duo. For cataloging and fixing exposure it runs pretty well, but when you try to use the straighten tool it slows down to almost unusable. Also when I applied many fixes to an image I saw some weird bugs, where Aperture didn't crash, but the image actually disappeared from the library... that happened twice. I only have 1gb of RAM on my mini although I doubt the 2gb will solve the problem as its mostly a video card issue. The intel 950 is a pretty good integrated chipset but it doesn't cut it for Aperture, especially not if you are running at a high resolution. The performance issues coupled with the fact that I found the results from my conversions in Lightroom to be superior led me to uninstall. I'll keep it on my Powerbook G4 for now, but once Lightroom goes commercial that might change.
 
rdbishop said:
Well, I decided to uninstall it on my Mini Core Duo. For cataloging and fixing exposure it runs pretty well, but when you try to use the straighten tool it slows down to almost unusable. Also when I applied many fixes to an image I saw some weird bugs, where Aperture didn't crash, but the image actually disappeared from the library... that happened twice. I only have 1gb of RAM on my mini although I doubt the 2gb will solve the problem as its mostly a video card issue. The intel 950 is a pretty good integrated chipset but it doesn't cut it for Aperture, especially not if you are running at a high resolution. The performance issues coupled with the fact that I found the results from my conversions in Lightroom to be superior led me to uninstall. I'll keep it on my Powerbook G4 for now, but once Lightroom goes commercial that might change.

Aw... I guess I won't be buying Aperture then if it is unusable on a 1.6 mini w/2gb of ram. iPhoto zips through 6mp Nikon RAW files so fast even in the editing the photos. I use pro apps like Photoshop, and have been using Lightroom for awhile. But iPhoto works faster? That blew my mind when I decided to dump some of my files and play with it. I couldn't get similar performance from Universal Lightroom, Nikon Capture, or Photoshop(as rossetta emulated that is). However, iPhoto doesn't have close to as many options for editing as the following programs. Less options could equal greater performance.

Well, I generalized that if iPhoto works fast with 6mp RAW then Aperture wouldn't be too different in performance. However, iPhoto and Aperture are probably built very differently.

:(

*weeps bitterly*
 
Credit only in US

What about us in Europe (Norway) where we paid $690 for our Aperture? Why don’t American companies realize that we also keep you alive.

Arild
 
iGary said:
Wishful thinking, but has anyone gotten their rebate yet in the U.S.??

wondering the same thing - apple is usually pretty timely in sending out their rebates/promo offers.
 
No one has gotten their coupon code yet? If I'm not mistaken it is supposed to be emailed. I was worried that they may have mistyped my email address, but apparently no one has gotten their coupon code yet.

Anyone?????
 
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