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Aperture 3 Reportedly Causing Hangs and Memory Leak Issues for Some Users

Happened to me

When upgrading my ~28,000 photo library to version 3, Aperture ballooned up to using all 3.5 GB of available RAM, then proceeded to leak into ever bit of free space on my hard drive for VRAM. It was approximately 2,000 photos away from finishing when the OS presented me with no choice but forcing it to quit.

So now I'm in a situation where I no longer have Aperture 2 installed, forcing me to use the partially-converted library temporarily to complete a project. Whenever 3.0.1 (or whatever) is finished I'll have to figure out a way to move those new photos to a temporary location, delete the new library and re-import the old one.
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
repair disk permissions.

I haven't been having any performance issues with Aperture, but I have run into some bugs. For example:

If I'm editing a photo in full screen mode and I open the adjustments panel and attach it to either side of the screen then accidentally touch an exposé hot corner the image shrinks a little and I haven't been able to figure out how to put it back to full screen. After that if I exit full screen by pressing F Aperture exits full screen, but the HUD adjustments panel stays where it is. If I press H to get rid of it the panel moves down about ten pixels, but does not disappear. Even pressing the window close button doesn't close the window. I have to restart Aperture to get the HUD to disappear.

This issue is easily repeatable on my computer. Can anyone else do this? Is anyone else running into the problem?
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Pls report your bugs back to Apple. Use the apple.com/feedback page. Thats important for all of us.
 
-=XX=-Nephilim said:
Lightroom > Aperture
In pretty much every department - hands down...
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Like others who've chimed in, I feel the opposite.

Anyway, I've had one app crash in the trial so far. Will be updating my library tonight - as always, I will be taking the blindly optimistic approach first and resort to my backups and convoluted schemes only if I have to.
 
I've seen more beach balls using Aperture 3 that anything else I've ever used, and my 8 core Mac Pro with 8 Gigs of RAM slows to a crawl when "face detection " kicks on. And Aperture 3 so far has crashed on my twice.
 
manu chao said:
And this has been possible with Aperture since vs. 1.5.
LR also maintains a "photo library", it is called the 'catalogue'.
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Yes but the catalogue is just a reference file containing the real location of you files, not one big self-contained library.

It works brilliantly, even when you switch your catalogue to a different machine and the location of the files change.
 
So many product launch failures from Apple.

MBP&iMAC screens , Snow Leopard , Aperture

It seems it doesn't work out of the box :)
 
baryon said:
I don't like Aperture anyway, I hate that it copies all of your photos into its own folder structure... Why can't it just leave them where they are dammit? I want to be able to manipulate my photos from the Finder as well... What if I want to send them to someone on Skype, or upload them on the web, I can't do that from Aperture, because draging and dropping only drags the freaking preview file, which is scaled down. I want to own my photos, I don't want my software to own them.
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Four solutions for ya:

1. Export from Aperture instead of drag/drop. Drag/drop is for quick copies of the photo where you don't really care about the quality. If you want to control the quality of the exported version, you need to tell Aperture what quality to use, which is done in the Export Versions dialog. There are all sorts of export presets to use and you can define your own.

2. Increase the quality of the previews. You can adjust the size/quality of preview images across the board if you want your drag/dropped pictures to be "nicer", albeit at the expense of Aperture taking more time generating and loading preview images (because they are bigger).

3. Use Referenced Masters under your own file structure, however you prefer it. Note that dragging the master image, though, won't pull in any of your changes to that master (same as with Lightroom or any other non-destructive editing program; the "final version" is only ever written out to disk when you export it).

4. If you want the drawbacks of dragging masters around (again, IMHO this is useless, but whatever) without using Referenced Masters, right-click on the managed Aperture library and select 'Show Package Contents', find your project bundle in the structure (if you can find it in Aperture you can find it here; the structure is identical), right click that and select 'Show Package Contents', then do whatever you want with the masters there (just don't accidentally move them out of the package or rename them).
 
Ive got problems with AP3 as well. When I turn on places, which is a feature I want to use, my network router crashes. Turn places off, and its ok.

The crash will happen after AP3 opens around 50 ports or more to get data from the map provider. Strangely, iPhotos places works without problems on the same system.
 
Hang up AND Crash in Trial Version of Aperture 3, yes.

I'm on an iMac, iMac7, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GHz, 4 MB, 2 GB, 800 MHz.

I downloaded the trial version of Aperture 3 to see what it was all about. I normally use iPhoto and Photoshop on a daily basis.

I found that importing 20,000 photos(my entire iPhoto Library) took several hours to complete, even though I asked Aperture not to copy them, but to keep them in the same location. Once all the photos were in, it kept the names of their iPhoto folders, and I could find no way to "Sort the folders by Date", which is what I wanted, not by name. With 20,000 photos in the library, it takes several minutes for Aperture to actually open up. Once it is open, I can correct several photos at a time, but it did crash once on me when I had other software open in the background. It definitely is slow with so many photos imported into the library, and I am reporting at least 3 hang ups and 2 crashes.

It doesn't seem as stable to me as iPhoto. Again, I'm running the trial version of 3.0 and I have never used any of the previous versions.

I do like many of the features and feel of Aperture, but I feel that it is not stable enough for me to want to use this over iPhoto and Photoshop combined. I would love to Aperture improve over time and test it again. I like that you can add external plugins, such as "Depth of Field". I like the simplicity of the interface, keeping windows to the left. The color correction I did to my photos was very good. All in all, it has some great features, but there is definitely a problem if you import 20,000 photos, and want to multitask with other programs open at the same time.
 
forgetaboutpro said:
Yes but the catalogue is just a reference file containing the real location of you files, not one big self-contained library.

It works brilliantly, even when you switch your catalogue to a different machine and the location of the files change.
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If you use "referenced masters" that's all that's in the Aperture Library bundle as well.

I thought LR also allowed a managed library workflow, which was identical to Apertures managed library scheme? The only difference here is the default value of the checkbox when you first install the software (LR defaults to referenced, Aperture defaults to managed).
 
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So many people like to complain, I love all the new features in Aperture 3.0, I have a few problems with plug-ins 64 bit mode, but helping beta test them. Had a large Aperture 2 library all went well with the upgrade. I'm sure Apple will release a fix to any issues. I think Apple might not do outside beta testing because their a quite company about releases. Look anyone who delivered a phone like the iPhone will make Aperture a great program
as well. I seem to read alot of people talking about Lighroom is harder to use then Aperture, most Adobe products in my opinion have long learning curves.
 
verniesgarden said:
more reason to stick with lightroom. i never liked the "photo library" scheme that apple does, I want to be able to easily get to my photos in finder.
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I don't want to be rude, but you clearly do not know much about Aperture. It's a very simple and straight forward process to set up your file structure for your photos. They can be made to reside where ever you like, from the computers HD to an external hard disk.

You post those type of comments and you mislead people that don't know the program (like yourself) and might be considering it.
 
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I second that comment.
 
Problems installing, not using

I had a major problem upgrading from Aperture2. A3 crashed on launch - every time. The good news is that a helpful apple support person quickly diagnosed the corrupt prefs file to delete and all was well after that. Aperture has always created large swap files and if you don't have a lot of free disk space, it will come to a crawl.
 
Aperture is the single biggest influence on my photography business. It has been nothing short but revolutionary!

It has helped my turn pro and has rescued so many photo's taht could be deemed as useless.

Turning to A3 - Wow what a headache

Spent 2 days updating the library (60,000 images+) But eventually once you leave it for a very long time it seems to settle down.

I have run the repair scripts (CMD + ALT when clicking on a library) and that seems to have really helped.

With regards to the eternal LR v Aperture debate that always comes around:

  • New Raw processing is outstanding - really seems sharper and more definition in images once reprocessed
    Faces is useful believe it or not
    As is places
    The new brushes are a joy to use

Tried to use LR in v1 but just dont like the interface since CS2 of all adobe products.

Aperture now equates to probably 95% of all my editing time and really speeds up work flow when shooting a wedding of 1200+ images.
Although processor usage in Activity Monitor is something like 170%! on my 3.06GHz Imac 2009 with 4GB ram

Just my .2p worth
 
krye said:
I've seen more beach balls using Aperture 3 that anything else I've ever used, and my 8 core Mac Pro with 8 Gigs of RAM slows to a crawl when "face detection " kicks on. And Aperture 3 so far has crashed on my twice.
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Are you using Leopard or SL? From what I have read in the apple forums, Aperture really flies in SL in 64 bit mode. I'll find out later this week when I import my 64GB iPhoto library into Aperture. My guess if your in leopard or SL in 32 bit mode, Aperture won't access memory above 4GB thus causing allot of virtual memory usage.
 
No issues

Had no issues with a 750gb library, a lot of which is 24mp RAW images.

Been using it quite heavily, especially multiple brush adjustments- which by the way makes this software pretty godly.

Obviously though there is some kind of issue centred around library conversion and getting set up. Hopefully Apple resolves it soon.
 
Problems w/Aperture 2.1.4 -> 3.0 upgrade

Count me in to the list of people having problems with Aperture 3. I upgraded from 2.1.4 to 3.0 and am experiencing the following issues:

* Very slow performance compared to Aperture 3, even in the same tools and functions (e.g. repair brush)
* Rebuilding thumbnails way too frequently, causing system slowdown after nearly every operation. For example, after I resize the crop selector (but before I actually do the crop) it rebuilds the thumbnail!
* Image distortion when zooming in and performing operations with brushes.

I haven't honestly left it open long enough to see any other problems. Since I need to use Aperture to do work, I used Time Machine to revert Aperture and my Aperture Library back to version 2.1.4. Thank goodness that worked!

Might try Aperture 3 again if these issues are fixed. For now I'll need to stay on Aperture 2 for speed and stability's sake.
 
forgetaboutpro said:
Yes but the catalogue is just a reference file containing the real location of you files, not one big self-contained library.

It works brilliantly, even when you switch your catalogue to a different machine and the location of the files change.
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Yes and using referenced files in Aperture works the exact same way. I have switched disks + computer numerous times and it works just fine in Aperture. Please stop with the FUD.

The only difference is Lightroom has decided you must go the route of referenced files, while Aperture lets you have a choice. If you are new or naive you may not want to use referenced files as you may not know that you have to back those up yourself. You would be surprised the number of intelligent artistic people, who don't understand file management. Realize its not their fault, we design computers for ourselves, it should be intuitive.

As for this silly Aperture vs Lightroom debate. People get over your frackin selves!

I own and have used both extensively and both have their merits. For the type of projects I do I finally decided on Aperture as I like the project based approach. I find it intuitive and very very flexible. Ultimately this is how I think, when it comes to my photography projects. Lightroom was easier out of the box as it guides you, but ultimately I didn't like provided tools for organizing projects. But I love the edit history and some of the presets, although now we finally get presets in Aperture.

That all said, I personally found Aperture is more flexible and will stick with it through the minor bugs.

As for the topic on hand, I have had no trouble with Aperture 3. That said, I haven't upgraded my V2 library yet (I kept an old copy of Aperture 2 in another folder), I always wait a while before I upgrade my real work. I personally never trust any software vendor that implicitly.

As for the new features... I LOVE places, especially the way it handles GPS tracks. I have about 5 years worth of GPS tracks that I save whenever I do a shoot. I had used Mapature plugin, but the built in GPS handling in Aperture 3 trumps the plugin easily.

Peace
 
Wait for 3.0.1

I've bought and installed the upgrade, and while I'm very pleased with the new features, I'd advise waiting until the 3.0.1 release. Apple should have called version 3.0.0 a beta test. I haven't lost any photos, or wasted too much time, but overall the experience has not been on a par with what I expect from Apple.

Be advised that you need plenty of free disk space. Aperture 3 will duplicate your Aperture 2 library, without giving any options for an incremental or full replacement.

I've had crashes during activation and creation of the photo library, but seem to be past those now. I've had numerous crashes running Aperture, but with the non-destructive editing I'm usually restarted and back to where I was in a minute or two without any loss of data.
 
This has been the worst Apple release I've encountered. I've ground to a halt with a 50k+ image library. Woke up in the morning to find that A3 had consumed 250GB of hard drive as swap space and crashed because it couldn't have more.

The problem isn't in the initial library update, it's in a secondary "processing" stage, after the Aperture window itself comes up.

Glad to hear some people have gotten it to work. Based on the discussions posts and forums here I was beginning to wonder if Apple had even compiled a working build.

lex750 said:
Maybe this update will fix the issue?

Aperture 3 already updated

"I didn't even have dust on the box yet, but Aperture 3 has scored an update within a few days of its release. The update, according to Apple, "...addresses an issue affecting the playback of video clips used in Aperture 3 slideshows on Snow Leopard."

The update is 65.2 megs to download. If it hasn't popped up for you yet, you can force it from the Apple Menu by selecting 'Software Update.'

I can't tell you it's a great fix because I haven't tried any video in my slideshows yet, but Apple suggests all users get the update.

I other words, be there, or be square."

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/15/aperture-3-already-updated/
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Argh! So cruel to tease me! I've been hitting Software Update several times a day, and you got me to do it one more time. I can hear you laughing and saying "made you look!". :D
verniesgarden said:
more reason to stick with lightroom. i never liked the "photo library" scheme that apple does, I want to be able to easily get to my photos in finder.
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gramorris said:
Ignoring the fact that Aperture lets you organise your photo library how ever you please and doesn't make you use Apple's scheme?
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fribhey said:
so then don't use the "photo library" scheme when importing your photos. I have all of my photos stored in their own folders organized how i want them, none of them are stored in the aperture library "scheme".... but then again, i know how to actually use the application.
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baryon said:
I don't like Aperture anyway, I hate that it copies all of your photos into its own folder structure... Why can't it just leave them where they are dammit? I want to be able to manipulate my photos from the Finder as well...
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*sigh*
:rolleyes:
 
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