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Aperture's Iris Closing?

maveness said:
This story just "smells" wrong to me. I wonder whether this isn't a bogus leak from Apple, still attempting to shut down their Think Secret source.
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ITR 81 said:
Exactly what I was thinking.

Sounds abit like FUD.

Apple sent FUD and TS bit.
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This dubious story is a PR and sales nightmare for Arperture. And you think Apple planted it?

I think not.
 
fudgepacker said:
MacRumors is being hypocritical by expressing concern that they hoped Think Secret had confirmed the rumor, since the rumor could hurt Apple financially -- and then they go ahead and run the rumor anyway, without confirmation.
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As I read it it's Arn who is expressing concern not MacRumors who are simple relaying the report.
TS are reporting from sources which they obviously have faith in as they do not qualify their reported information as rumour, whereas MacRumors makes no claim as to the reliability of the relayed report and go so far as to put a large blue question mark to the right of the posting indicating it's rumour status.
 
mi5moav said:
If true this is good news. A reawakening for Jobs. Hopefully, he'll realize that he isn't GOD and even the almighty screws up royally once or twice.
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He did play God. He fired them all! He didn't create the program, the now unemployed programmers did :D
 
Stick with it...

I hope Apple sticks with Apeture. I've been using it since release and it does have performance issues but it's a great product. I also use lightroom and much prefer the way Aperture works. The latest release is a big improvement and I just hope Apple keep improving it; I was banking on using this product for years to come!

For reference, I use a G5 dual 2ghz with 2.5 GB ram and the all important Radeon 9800 Pro. Only have 756mb on my G4 PB 1.33 so don't run aperture on this which requires a minimum of 1gb just to install. I use lightroom on the G4 which works fine.
 
eSnow said:
Unfortunately, almost any Cocoa-App coming from Apple lately is extremely slow in it's first incarnations - e.g. iPhoto. I don't reall understand why this is, since Cocoa is always touted as the more modern environment.
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Cocoa is a better development environment, and therefore, development can be faster but execution is rarely faster, except in minds already thinking that different is better and faster.
 
kingtj said:
First of all, Microsoft very *rarely* comes out with a new software product on their own that "drives competitors into the dust". Rather, they look around at what's available and they buy out the "best of breed" they can get ahold of at the time, rebranding it as "Microsoft"...
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...ok, now tell me the bit that refutes what I said.

Like it or not, Microsoft has pretty much destroyed third party development in most major mass-market application areas. Whether it did so by developing the competitive software in house, or by buying *one* of the software houses that produced such software is immaterial. In the end, it competes with, and destroys, any third party developer that dares to produce anything with a product whose shelf life is measured in years, and whose market is measured in tens of thousands or better.

Apple, for the most part, doesn't do this for the pro-apps, unless it sees a serious deficit in what third party developers are producing.
 
Yep...

skidooairman said:
Aperture is a piece of junk software. I hope that Apple made them all walk out with their pants around their ankles to humiliate them for making such a mess of this app. I did the correct thing by apple, and they screwed me on an app that was simple iPhoto with a bit of extra guts.
Good riddance Aperture folks.:mad:
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I think Apple should stick to computers and the OS. It's hard to beat Microsoft as far as business software, and Adobe and Macromedia as far as creative.

I remember (I'm dating myself) trying to use MacDraw or MacWrite for certain things, but ended up having to use Aldus Pagemaker... All great programs, but Pagemaker did what I really needed to do.

Still waiting for my 13" Macbook (tried the Macbook Pro running Windows XP with bootcamp at the store yesterday - really freaky...)
 
Peyton said:
Hmm, I've use it, seems like a nice app that does what its advertised for, (btw, its still be advertised on the 17 MBP on Apple.com's front page)

Anyway, I would say the $200 price drop and coupon are big hints, I would like this program to be redone tho, reinvented to be the 'FCP' of the photography world
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The FCP of the photography world is available today, it's called Photoshop.
 
gkarris said:
I think Apple should stick to computers and the OS. It's hard to beat Microsoft as far as business software, and Adobe and Macromedia as far as creative.
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Thank god they didn't have that mentality when they created Final Cut Pro...
 
gkarris said:
I think Apple should stick to computers and the OS. It's hard to beat Microsoft as far as business software, and Adobe and Macromedia as far as creative.
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It might be hard to beat MS dominance, but certainly not it's quality.
 
aperture vs. Adobe

I though apple had an exelent chance to win marketshare with the anoucement of the universal version and the lower price of aperture, after adobe anounced it's CS3 for the spring of 2007, one year from now!
 
MovieCutter said:
Thank god they didn't have that mentality when they created Final Cut Pro...
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Except that... didn't they buy out Final Cut Pro?

Edit: Yep, Apple bought the nascent product (originally named Key Grip) from Macromedia. They even tried to sell it back off, and when nobody bought, decided to develop it in-house. They dropped the Windows version, too. :)

Still, the original point stands.
 
haha, i like the title of the thread :eek: :cool:
I never really used apterture only fooling around with it in the store for a few mins. I see it more like an iPhoto on steroids. It does basic editing, organization, and the books
 
gkarris said:
I think Apple should stick to computers and the OS. It's hard to beat Microsoft as far as business software, and Adobe and Macromedia as far as creative.

I remember (I'm dating myself) trying to use MacDraw or MacWrite for certain things, but ended up having to use Aldus Pagemaker... All great programs, but Pagemaker did what I really needed to do.

Still waiting for my 13" Macbook (tried the Macbook Pro running Windows XP with bootcamp at the store yesterday - really freaky...)
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You're joking, right? Final Cut Pro, Motion, DVD Studio Pro, iPhoto, iMovie, Keynote, Pages, GarageBand, Soundtrack, iTunes, iChat, even Mail Safari and iCal. And let's not forget the produts they've bought and now continue to update... Shake and Logic and I'm sure I'm forgetting others.... iWeb looks pretty cool for a beginner web program. What does Microsoft offer? Frontpage. Frontpage is crap. People debate Pages, but it's usually about how it integrates with MS products. If that's the debate you might as well go buy a PC. And I think most people argue Keynote is superior to the laughable powerpoint. Don't worry, I'm sure a spreadsheet app is coming. AND, let's not forget half this stuff is free on every mac! Adobe bowed out of DVD and Video editing on the mac because Apple out did them. Flat out. So Aperture was a little early out of the gate. Most argue it has some technical and performance issues. So yes, Apple should be scolded for early release. They gave money back and fired the staff. Good enough. I'm sure just like DVDSP the next full version will be amazing.
 
notjustjay said:
Except that... didn't they buy out Final Cut Pro?

Edit: Yep, Apple bought the nascent product (originally named Key Grip) from Macromedia. They even tried to sell it back off, and when nobody bought, decided to develop it in-house. They dropped the Windows version, too. :)

Still, the original point stands.
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And how many products did Adobe buy from others? Framemaker, Pagemaker and AFTER EFFECTS come to mind. Yes, After Effects was called CoSA After Effects for version 1 and 2 I believe.
 
we're not ThinkSecret's gatekeeper. ThinkSecret tends to get the benefit of the doubt when they publish their stories. They've had a relatively good record over the years, so their significant stories get published.

If this same story had come from an unknown site, then it would have been pushed to Page 2 if posted at all.

arn
 
jelloshotsrule said:
that's fair enough, and i may join you in asking arn why he chose to post it if he considered its possible negative impact (whether or not true). but why not be mature about it and ask rather than making your first post on the board, with a somewhat offensive (to some, not me really) screen name, inflammatory and accusative? also, you went on to rant about how macrumors doesn't do its own work, etc. which is really what i was defending moreso than this particular story.
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I also questioned why this is page one, when other stories (the garage band update) have been page 2. If you read the FAQs about page 2, it says something to the effect of page 2 being used for uncertain rumors and those items of lesser (my word) news importance. I see any Apple software update being more important and page 1 worthy. However, Think Secret has been off the mark a bit on their rumors. With something as potentially damaging as this, and only one site reporting, why not put it on page 2?

Just my 2 cents.
 
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