What a joke. Make good apps, people will buy. Make ****** apps, no one will buy.
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App Store Developers Form a 'Union' Ahead of WWDC Calling for Free App Trials, Better Rates
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What does discovery have to do with where you ultimately purchase/download the app?
30% does seem absurd. Does Amazon or eBay take a 30% cut from sales? Of course not. It's nowhere close to that because they're not actually creating any of the value.
Apple should implement Google's hassle free way to get automatic app refund by simply uninstalling the app within two hours. No artificial barriers or hoops to jump through and simplifies the need for free trial.
And, I'm all for supporting devs through lower rates until Apple figure out how to increase marketshare otherwise devs will end up jumping ship to a platform with much greater marketshare.
And, I'm all for supporting devs through lower rates until Apple figure out how to increase marketshare otherwise devs will end up jumping ship to a platform with much greater marketshare.
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Good for them. Apple doesn’t deserve a 30% cut of their revenue for basically doing nothing.
It’s about time the competition authorities investigated Apple for abusing their App Store monopoly.
I don’t get why Apple is against trials. But as far as the 30% cut I don’t see that changing any time soon. The biggest drivers of Apple’s services revenue increases are Apple’s cut of App Store sales/subscriptions and iCloud storage. So basically Apple is bragging about IAP and that they’re stingy with cloud storage. But, so long as Wall Street is looking for a services narrative (and hardware sales are mostly flat or down) Apple will continue with its AppStore policies and being stingy with storage.
Apple needs to be investigated for unfair and/or monopolistic business practices quite frankly. And I'm not talking just the App Store.
Well as a webdeveloper I have to say that 70/30 is not a bad rate. Apple deserves the 30 because they provide really good tools to create apps. Apple has been quite lazy testing/polishing their software lately, but it doesn’t mean they are not working hard. After all, if you create a great app you don't really need that another 15% to make a good money. I wish the hardware was a little cheaper, that's where is Apple greedy.
What monopoly? No one is forced to use an iOS device and iOS does not have a monopoly market share.
I love it when people think infrastructure is free. Apple is hosting their applications worldwide. I download an app in seconds anytime I want.
So, everyone here complains. Well, then just go to another platform. Then Apple will change. My neighbor does not have a single Apple product and survives just fine. Actually seems to happy about it.
Retail markup is normally about 40%.
Exactly. Well said.
Wow, I love how people keep complaining that Apple is not deserving any cut but yet Google and Microsoft has nearly the same revenue sharing model and they have both the largest market shares (Android/Windows). Apple isn't the only one and they're certainly isn't a monopoly.
MS is lowering their revenue share to 85/15 for app store refs while bumping it to 95/5 if they are linked on the app's site directly later this year but that may be a sign of MS Store not working out well.
Google is 85/15 if it is a sub. I think that's the case but I don't remember if it is sub only.
Apple lowers to 85:15 if the customer has been a sub for more than year.
Have you ever run a business on your own? No developers say Apple doesn't deserve a cut. Maybe lowering it down yes but Apple is doing a lot that most developers don't have to do. Apple handles the transactions (which is not free anywhere, every service requires a fee), hosting (definitely not free), and so on. Microsoft and Google has the same revenue sharing too.
MS is lowering their revenue share to 85/15 for app store refs while bumping it to 95/5 if they are linked on the app's site directly later this year but that may be a sign of MS Store not working out well.
Google is 85/15 if it is a sub. I think that's the case but I don't remember if it is sub only.
Apple lowers to 85:15 if the customer has been a sub for more than year.
Have you ever run a business on your own? No developers say Apple doesn't deserve a cut. Maybe lowering it down yes but Apple is doing a lot that most developers don't have to do. Apple handles the transactions (which is not free anywhere, every service requires a fee), hosting (definitely not free), and so on. Microsoft and Google has the same revenue sharing too.
I agree. They are moving everything towards subscriptions.
They don’t want trials because then you might not buy the app. You’re less likely to try to get a refund for a $2 app than you are to not buy that app in the first place.
Growth for Apple is in services. Personally I don’t like this. It doesn’t feel like the Apple of old, the hardware company, but it’s the new reality. Give it a few more years and I imagine everything on the App Store will be subscription only, just like I imagine iTunes purchases will go away one day.
Forgot to make this point crystal clear ... "AAPL has a Stranglehold on App Discovery in their iOS App Store !" ... that's the MAIN problem with being an App Developer !
Apple is still very much in the purchased iTunes music business last time I checked.
Trials expire and I don’t think you can easily use a crack on iOS + you can already download full version ipa illegally and sign them anyway
Uh no, sorry. Authorization for payment should always remain as opt-in, not opt-out. These devs can go pound sand.
Difference with Google is you're getting access to ~90% marketshare while Microsoft recently dropped their cut to 10% so Apple's cut should be around 15% to be more inline with industry.
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