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Just found this over at TFTCentral doing a panel search:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/panelsearch.htm

Apple Alu 24" 12ms G2G 24"WS LG.Display H-IPS (LM240WU2-(SL)(B1))

If this is to be believed then it appears that the new Apple 24" LED Cinema Display is using the same H-IPS panel as the 24" iMac

Apple iMac 24" 12ms G2G 24"WS LG.Display H-IPS (LM240WU2-(SL)(B1))

This makes the new Apple 24" LED Cinema Display more attractive for the price if only Apple decides to provide some backward compatibility.:cool:


i agree, Marketing at Apple is mastermindful, more of the same BOM they purchase, less their cost of material would be, meaning more profit. that is the precise reason why they will not offer MATTE versions on their macbook line. Whatever the 24" imac maybe, apple will not have two different BOM's for 24" glossy panels, so if 24" imac screen is H-ISP, upcoming 24" cinema display will MOST LIKELY share the same spec.
 
I live outside the West right now, and have only today (Friday), tomorrow and the day after for a friend in the US to get me one of the screens and bring it with him.

I've go no chance, right? Are people who order online still getting notifications that the screens are shipping 28 November, delivery around 2 December?

Is there no chance of getting one from an Apple retail store?

(And what about the darn in-ear headphones? :( )
 
Its Cinema Displays have been pretty much the most expensive things out there for a long time, no? Everyone had better deals than those...

That's nonsense. Yes, everyone had better deals but that's just because other companies like Eizo sell everything from high end displays (which are actually much more expensive than the Cinema Displays) to mediocre office lanterns. Apple on the other hand sells only one line of very good but not really high end displays at a (for the image quality they offer) highly competitive price. It's just your own ignorance of the Cinema Displays' quality and what other manufacturers charge for their non-consumer displays that makes you believe otherwise.

FWIW, my Eizo HD2441W cost over $1500 at the time, way more than Apple charged for the Cinema 23". It's a stunning display though and I never regretted the expense (it also has a 5 year limited warranty). At the office I have a 23" Cinema Display which is really neat, too.

Let me quote Ars Technica Creative Director Aurich Lawson:

I suspect that the false comparison with the paper stock argument feeds another persistent myth, which is that glossy screens are not for professionals. Let's just leave aside the the fact that an image on a monitor will never entirely match an image printed on paper no matter what kind of screen you have, for a variety of reasons not least amongst them the differences between subtractive and additive color cited above.

Sorry, but Lawson has it all wrong. I happen to have some insight into the photography business and I know that photographers sneer at glossy displays. Ironically, Lawson himself explains why. The color saturation and contrast you get from a glossy display (under good lighting conditions) have nothing to do with what the final result will look like on paper anyway. Even "glossy" photo paper isn't actually more glossy than the matte displays of the previous generation MBP. Put otherwise, the matte displays give you a more realistic impression of what the paper version will look like. And so far I didn't even mention distracting reflections (I saw an episode of GeekBrief TV where Cali Lewis unwraps the new MBP somewhere in a patch of forest, and boy was it depressing to see how reflective the display actually is).

The bottom line is that if you make a living editing digital photos for print, glossy displays have exactly zero advantages but a lot of major disadvantages.

By the way, I believe you that the new MBP has a fabulous screen all in all, but my Penryn MBP (matte) has a fabulous screen, too, so what does it prove? The MBP's screen happens to be a lot less matte than that of me olde PowerBook G4, which is fine. I consider it a great compromise. I know for sure my iPod touch is next to unusable in certain lighting conditions despite the incredibly bright display, and I certainly don't want that on my work notebook.

Or you could learn the difference between DisplayPort and DVI/HDMI, and the technical reasons why such adapters are impossible, which has been discussed to death elsewhere.

No, it must be that Apple "abuses" its customers... unreal.

Yes, Dual Link DVI to/from DisplayPort requires signal conversion, but the 24" Cinema Display has a resolution of 1920x1200 anyway which is exactly the max. resolution of Single Link DVI. We know from the new MacBook that passive adapters from DisplayPort to Single Link DVI are possible (the MacBook's graphic card is smart enough to emit a DVI signal in this case), and there is no technical reason why this could not be done on the input side. The Cinema Display would just have to be smart enough to process a DVI signal coming from a passive DVI-D SL to Mini DisplayPort adapter. It may require some extra logic but it's far from impossible. The fact that others haven't done this doesn't prove anything. The new Cinema Display is probably the only display that has only a (modified) DisplayPort input connector so others simply didn't have to care about this use case.
 
I went out and grabbed the 23" sitting in my photo story's shelves. Couldn't be happier with the look. Bright as hell, large enough, and not glossy for the sake of being glossy. Got it for $700 and will be buying either a second one or a couple more HDDs for various backups and what not.

I don't want the good stuff to disappear after Apple releases all glossy ACDs.
 
Apple, you fricken suck. Today is the only day I can buy this new 24" ACD and it's not in the stores, weeks after it was announced. You're a joke. Get it together, for heaven's sake. :mad:
 
Apple, you fricken suck. Today is the only day I can buy this new 24" ACD and it's not in the stores, weeks after it was announced. You're a joke. Get it together, for heaven's sake. :mad:
So there's no other monitor in the world you can buy, so what if Apple didn't make monitors, what would you do then? :rolleyes:
 
Response time: 14 ms - I can't believe in this... It was awful for old ones but for 2008-09 model is just joking
14 ms isn't anything. I wouldn't be able to even notice 14 ms. 14 ms is nothing. I doubt those numbers are accurate, too.
 
So there's no other monitor in the world you can buy, so what if Apple didn't make monitors, what would you do then? :rolleyes:

there is, they do, and I don't need to think of that, or I wouldn't if Apple would just be even halfway decent and have "Ships in November" mean anything other than "Ships 30 November"
 
MiniDisplayPort to DVI-D adapter supports 2048x1152

DisplayPort requires signal conversion, but the 24" Cinema Display has a resolution of 1920x1200 anyway which is exactly the max. resolution of Single Link DVI.

Just an interesting side note but my new 2.4 Gig MacBook does drive a new Samsung 2343BWX monitor at its' native resolution of 2048 X 1152.

Samsung warns that the monitor may not work on PCs (Windows) unless their video cards support dual link DVI but it works perfectly on the new Minidisplayport to DVI-D adapter that Apple sells.

- Mike
 
Apple, you fricken suck. Today is the only day I can buy this new 24" ACD and it's not in the stores, weeks after it was announced. You're a joke. Get it together, for heaven's sake. :mad:

Apple did say they wouldn't be available until November, which in manufacturer's terms means the end of November. All companies do the same thing when it comes to hot products.

Nikon is the worst out of the bunch though.
 
Another H-IPS Option

NEC..... or Eizo.....

So far they are the only ones that are left in the IPS round up. LaCie's new displays are nice, but they don't have IPS, they use PVA. THeir older ones do have IPS though.

Actually, HP supposedly as a nice H-IPS display out - the HP LP2475W - for a reasonable price ($650-ish). I am seriously considering it to complement my BlackBook.
 
Hey guys! LED backlighting will save you money on power!

So by 2050, you'll have saved enough to make up the difference!.. uhh....

Is this thing really HDCP compliant?
 
Hey guys! LED backlighting will save you money on power!

So by 2050, you'll have saved enough to make up the difference!.. uhh....

The difference compared to what? I've seen some people advocate Dell UltraSharp displays. I had a Dell UltraSharp 2007FP at work, now I have a Cinema Display 23". I found the Dell neat when I first got it (I was used to pretty old CRTs), but it falls way short of the ACD on every account - contrast, color accuracy / gamut, max. brightness, and, yes, sharpness. Before you say that the 2007FP is no longer current, do note that the ACD did not undergo technical changes for years.

To be fair, the UltraSharp was one of Dell's better products. My employer mostly buys Dell hardware – so far I've used Dell notebooks, a desktop computer, displays, mice and keyboards, and unfortunately the only commendable thing I can think of was the internal keyboard on a Dell Precision M70 (a device that was otherwise totally pathetic compared to my PowerBook G4). Everything else was at best ok (such as the UltraSharp) or tragically flawed in one way or the other.
 
I had a Dell UltraSharp 2007FP at work, now I have a Cinema Display 23". I found the Dell neat when I first got it (I was used to pretty old CRTs), but it falls way short of the ACD on every account - contrast, color accuracy / gamut, max. brightness, and, yes, sharpness. Before you say that the 2007FP is no longer current, do note that the ACD did not undergo technical changes for years.

Actually, both the 2007FP and the 23" Cinema (I own one of each as well) have undergone changes over the years.

The 2007FP has used a dog's breakfast of different panels over the years, including both IPS and PVA panels. I have the latest revision, which uses an excellent LG S-IPS panel, and the monitor is not quite as bright as I would like in my well-lit office but otherwise just about perfect.

The Apple 23" has also had several revisions, incorporating at least three different panels (all S-IPS), over the years. The first panel Apple used was highly variable in quality. My display is an early one, so that is the panel I have. It looked pretty good when new, but over the years several flaws, including very uneven backlighting and a pink cast near the top of the panel, have become apparent. Later displays are more consistent (and have better specs).

I'm sure a recent 23" Apple would also be better than an early 2007FP. The moral here is that you can't compare whole monitor lines; you have to compare specific panels, which is much harder because manufacturers don't like to provide the necessary information.
 
The difference compared to what? I've seen some people advocate Dell UltraSharp displays. I had a Dell UltraSharp 2007FP at work, now I have a Cinema Display 23". I found the Dell neat when I first got it (I was used to pretty old CRTs), but it falls way short of the ACD on every account - contrast, color accuracy / gamut, max. brightness, and, yes, sharpness. Before you say that the 2007FP is no longer current, do note that the ACD did not undergo technical changes for years.

To be fair, the UltraSharp was one of Dell's better products. My employer mostly buys Dell hardware – so far I've used Dell notebooks, a desktop computer, displays, mice and keyboards, and unfortunately the only commendable thing I can think of was the internal keyboard on a Dell Precision M70 (a device that was otherwise totally pathetic compared to my PowerBook G4). Everything else was at best ok (such as the UltraSharp) or tragically flawed in one way or the other.
Do you mean the Dell 2007FP (4:3) or 2007WFP (widescreen)? I have the 2005WFP and my son has the 2007WFP, both excellent displays. I think the 2005WFP that I have actually looks a little better, but it doesn't have support for HDCP like the 2007 model. Of course the ACD doesn't have it either. So at least the Dell lets you watch iTunes HD movies on the new MB/MBP while the ACD does not.
 
IM thinkin of ordering one, but I own , Imac 24incher (the new ones) but i dunno if get the led display or the old 30 incher...
 
IM thinkin of ordering one, but I own , Imac 24incher (the new ones) but i dunno if get the led display or the old 30 incher...

If you are talking about hooking the display up to your iMac then you are better off getting the new one since the iMac can't run the 30" since it doesn't have dual link DVI.

I hear of some people trying to get it to run on their Macbooks under lower resolutions but I think it's just a matter of the connection difference.
 
IM thinkin of ordering one, but I own , Imac 24incher (the new ones) but i dunno if get the led display or the old 30 incher...

How are you planning on hooking the Mini Display Port of the New 24" Monitor to you iMac?

Inquiring Minds want to know!:D
 
If you are talking about hooking the display up to your iMac then you are better off getting the new one since the iMac can't run the 30" since it doesn't have dual link DVI.

I hear of some people trying to get it to run on their Macbooks under lower resolutions but I think it's just a matter of the connection difference.
Well the iMac also cannot drive the LED 24" display; there is no way to connect hem.
 
14 ms isn't anything. I wouldn't be able to even notice 14 ms. 14 ms is nothing. I doubt those numbers are accurate, too.

It would probably be noticeable, however, 14ms is pretty typical for these types of screens.

You would be a moron to buy it to play games on, though, so I don't see how the latency really matters.
 
are these available retail yet? ie, from the store - a guy took my number and said he would ring me once they get stock in, but havnt heard anything yet, dont know whether to trust them
 
are these available retail yet? ie, from the store - a guy took my number and said he would ring me once they get stock in, but havnt heard anything yet, dont know whether to trust them

I went by the Pentagon City Apple Store this past Saturday thinking that I could pick one up. Initially, I was told that they were in stock, but after they checked, I was told that they did get a few in, but they had already been sold.

That's kind of hard to believe because it seems like if someone had it already, they would have unboxing pictures posted.

On another note, I went to BB to see if they had it and was told that they should get them in this Friday.
 
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