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Apple 4th Quarter 2005 Conference Call

Mac mini is considered a portable by Apple.

The split is between desktops and portables. Notice the word portable and not laptop? The Mac mini is considered a portable computer by Apple. So there were a lot of iMacs and PowerMacs sold last quarter.

Note: The Mac mini is listed as a portable in the services and support section of the website.
 
This sucks. After hours trading is really down. I hope the announcements tomorrow bounce it back a little.
 
Bear said:
The split is between desktops and portables. Notice the word portable and not laptop? The Mac mini is considered a portable computer by Apple. So there were a lot of iMacs and PowerMacs sold last quarter.
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They have always called the portables. Mac Minis are included with desktop. In fact, before when they broke down the numbers more, they included Mac Mini sales, with iMac sales.
 
Fabio_gsilva said:
He is always right! People that does not understand him sometimes...
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All hail Steve, for Steve is what we should dream to be. A nice man on the outside who once the cameras are off will put drunken sailors to shame in addition to prying into square's sex/drug lives. :eek:

So I hear. :rolleyes:
 
powerbook911 said:
This sucks. After hours trading is really down. I hope the announcements tomorrow bounce it back a little.
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HOLY CRAP! Dangit, I knew I should've sold it all.. Oh my gosh, that's ridiculously bad.. It'll take a little time for it to get back up to the level that it was at. 10.49% is very very bad..

Unless Apple releases something amazing tomorrow, I don't know what'll happen.
 
mac-er said:
That isn't really odd....laptops are becoming more popular across the board.
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Right, that is the trend industry-wide. It was a couple years ago that Steve announced Apple for the first time sold more laptops in a quarter than desktops. One big reason is that for a large number of people, laptops really are a viable desktop replacement nowadays. That wasn't always the case.
 
NANOS!

Wow, 1 million Nanos is crazy, but awesome. My eyes went a little bug-eyed after reading that! I guess it makes sense after all the publicity it's gotten, but even so.

I wonder if all the negative publicity (cracked screens, etc.) will have any effect on future sales of Nanos? With Christmas coming up you would think that the sales would remain steady or go up even more though...
 
Bear said:
The split is between desktops and portables. Notice the word portable and not laptop? The Mac mini is considered a portable computer by Apple. So there were a lot of iMacs and PowerMacs sold last quarter.
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Nope. Look at the footnotes in the following PDF.

Apple Computer, Inc. Q4 2005 Unaudited Summary Data

Bear said:
Note: The Mac mini is listed as a portable in the services and support section of the website.
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Doesn't list that way for me. It shows up under the "Macs" section and not under the "Portables/Wireless" section.
 
abhishake said:
HOLY CRAP! Dangit, I knew I should've sold it all.. Oh my gosh, that's ridiculously bad.. It'll take a little time for it to get back up to the level that it was at. 10.49% is very very bad..

Unless Apple releases something amazing tomorrow, I don't know what'll happen.
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:D Let's hope Apple can survive! ;)
 
zap2 said:
more laptops then desktops odd but ok

APPLE!!!! :D
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I wouldn't get an Apple desktop machine. maybe an iMac for its brilliantness or a PowerMac for its power. but it would have to be top of the line.
personally I'm not a fan of desktops be they windows or Apple. and it seems to be a big trend at the moment. at least with folks at my end people are ditching desktops in favour of laptops.
 
Anybody else notice the lack of a music store update today?
Which historically means something iPod/iTunes related coming within the next few days.
Last time that happened was just a month ago, and our music store update came with... :drumroll: iTunes 5 and iPod nanos.

Which means... iTunes 5.0.2 and iPod video.
and PowerBook G5s ;)

reality
 
realityisterror said:
Anybody else notice the lack of a music store update today?
Which historically means something iPod/iTunes related coming within the next few days.
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While I do think iPod news is coming tomorrow, it seems they always bump the Tuesday stuff to Wednesday whenever Monday is a holiday (Columbus Day). Something to do with some sales reports they get on Monday being delayed until Tuesday, and Apple liking to have new releases follow those reports? Someone may remember more clearly than I.
 
realityisterror said:
Anybody else notice the lack of a music store update today?
Which historically means something iPod/iTunes related coming within the next few days.
Last time that happened was just a month ago, and our music store update came with... :drumroll: iTunes 5 and iPod nanos.

Which means... iTunes 5.0.2 and iPod video.
and PowerBook G5s ;)

reality
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Thank you, let us not forgot good old (non distorted)reality :D
 
Macrumors said:
Hilights include:

- 1,236,000 Macs sold
- 6,451,000 iPods sold
- 602,000 of the Macs were Desktops (PowerMac, iMac, eMac, Mac mini, Xserve)
- 634,000 of the Macs were Portables (PowerBooks, iBooks)
- More than a Million iPod nanos were sold within 17 days of its release.
- Mac OS X 10.4 revenue is approximately $35 million per quarter
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I got to say that is a lot of Macs for any quarter. How many original iMacs were sold the first quarter after launch, anyone know? I would also like to know the exact number for the quarter by line - are flat screen iMacs outselling PMs and are iBs outselling PBs or vica verca?

And I am happy to have contributed 1 nano to the 'more than a million' sold in the quarter - nice to know I am helping drive a trend :p

I will be waiting another 18 hours or so for the media event (what time is it on Wednesday anyway? Whatever it is it is the midle of the night here in Tokyo, so maybe I will just check apple.com Thusday morning my time...)
 
AoWolf said:
I think its almost always been that way.
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just seem werid there are so many more desktops then laptop but you know!! Im only going to use as my main computer for School, after that i plan to have a high power desk top ,PMac and a iBook or lowend PB for 'on the go'
 
why are there two threads for this topic?

Anyway, looks sweet and all, but actually, ipod numbers not so hot. Yes, yes, it's a lot of ipods, and growth, but it's "leveling off". Meaning, growth is slowing, meaning most who want one already have one. Which is a bad sign, and investors are seeing it as such.

I think this is why they scheduled tomorrow's event tomorrow-ipod growth has been driving the company, and seeing that slowing is NOT going to help the stock price. But a new ipod lineup seriously could help.

That said, I think all the people selling because the ipod company no longer has infinite growth potential as the ipod company are silly. As the numbers today show, as apple was turned into the ipod company, the computer side of it has become a threat with a lot of growth potential. Meanwhile, the ipod wave has a good bit more for apple to ride, for sure.
 
PharmD said:
I noticed that too, he didn't "not" say that they wouldn't have intel products before June '06. He definately paused. Hmmm...

Also, did anyone notice he said "products" for tomorrow. So its more than "one more thing"
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This is how incorrect rumors start. He did pause before he replied but then he just repeated that they were still expecting to have Intel products by June '06. The pause could have been for any number of reasons, I actually took it as an indication that they were just a little tired of hearing someone ask that same question again (since they had already reaffirmed the June '06 date).
 
dontmatter said:
Yes, yes, it's a lot of ipods, and growth, but it's "leveling off". Meaning, growth is slowing, meaning most who want one already have one. Which is a bad sign, and investors are seeing it as such.
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I think you're right about investors. But in truth "growth slowing" does not mean most who want one already have one. I predict the reverse: the number of iPods currently is just scratching the surface of the number of people who will have them down the road.

Put it this way: what if growth didn't just slow, but hit ZERO. Sales totally flat with no increase ever again. That would STILL be HUGE numbers of iPods sold every quarter.
 
iAlan said:
I got to say that is a lot of Macs for any quarter. How many original iMacs were sold the first quarter after launch, anyone know?
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Second highest quarterly total of Macs shipped ever. (macfixit.com)
 
powerbook911 said:
This sucks. After hours trading is really down. I hope the announcements tomorrow bounce it back a little.
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I'm a long Apple stockholder and I'm not worried in the least. The drop is typical for Apple after earnings announcements, no matter how good the news. Just some profit taking. Expect it to open lower tomorrow and begin its rise on the new announcements. We;ll be back to yesterday's levels by month's end.
 
nagromme said:
I think you're right about investors. But in truth "growth slowing" does not mean most who want one already have one. I predict the reverse: the number of iPods currently is just scratching the surface of the number of people who will have them down the road.

Put it this way: what if growth didn't just slow, but hit ZERO. Sales totally flat with no increase ever again. That would STILL be HUGE numbers of iPods sold every quarter.
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Hmmm... How many iPods have been sold in the United States alone. In TOTAL. We have 300 million people in the United States, how many people can Apple grab?

I know that i'm just one of many who have bought more than just one iPod from Apple, but many haven't bought any at all..
 
I believe that the reason the stock has fallen was because iPod sales were pretty flat from last quarter's results (units up about 5%). That and the normal sell off after any quarter where results are only as good as or slightly better than forecast.
 
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