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I agree.
Angela Merkel messed up big time by welcoming so many of them.
Just look at the people that are coming.
80% are military aged men.
20% can't read or write, while the ones who can mostly only speak Arabic.
Less than 40% come from countries that are actually affected by war. Many others just want to live in more wealthy country's.

And, they all want to go to Germany only. Everyone wants to go to Germany. The border EU country's say they would take some of them but they do not want to stay.
I doubt that people who are seriously fleeing from war and oppression would only accept being rescued by one certain country.

The counter arguments are:
1: Said military age men are in positions to either be recruited or executed if they do not join with the cause.
2: About par for the US, for what it's worth, and they come from countries that Arabic is the sole language. German as a language is also in decline despite global populations increasing. Over the past 15 years, census data collected from around the world has reflected that German speakers have decreased from ~91m to ~76m people, and that is compared to the high point of ~144m.
3: They are coming from areas immediately adjacent to those that are presently war torn. As such, they are *opportunistically* moving in the sense that there is a moving army that is advancing towards their location and they do not wish to fight.
4: They want to go to a company who is *WELCOMING* to them, and will be providing *ASSISTANCE* to them in this transition. Is that not better than going somewhere you're spit on, told you're worthless and left homeless?
 
I was more than happy to support all the times in the past when Apple did this, but I definitely will not be giving a dime towards this one. This isn't a true refugee crisis or an incident caused by a natural disaster like the others, this was a man-made problem fueled by religion.
Man made, correct. Religion, no. It's due to western intervention. Both sides are people that were or currently are funded by the west.
 
Donation?stupid apple. Why don't you donate since you guys are making lot of money from customers?
 
Honestly I'm not well informed as to the current situation. However, I did live in Europe (Switzerland, Germany, Austria) for two years between 1996-1998. Much of my time there was service oriented. I had a fair amount of interaction with refugees during this time. There certainly were refugees in genuine need and there were also refugees that were "opportunists" (like another poster mentioned). We had many admit to making up stories about their wife and kids being brutally murdered so that their refugee status would be accepted. Their life as refugees were pretty care free - getting housing, transportation, and way more money than needed for essential living each month. That extra money would go toward big screen TVs or be sent home to family members. I know there are people who work the system in many different systems. I know there are people in real need. Hoping people are humane, and loving, and honest, and help each other out.

"Big screen TVs" in 1996-1998? Yes, I'm sure. And smartphones, too, I'm guessing?

I don't know about Switzerland and Austria, but no, you can't just have a "pretty care free life" in Germany as a refugee. Nor do you get "way more money than needed for essential living". Nor does any of the care you do get last after your request has been processed, at which point you're either going to leave, or to work.
 
Man made, correct. Religion, no. It's due to western intervention. Both sides are people that were or currently are funded by the west.

How is it not fueled by religion. They claim to be fleeing ISIS (although i feel that most are just trying to cash in on the situation and make their way to a better country)

Since ISIS operates solely on the basis of religion(islam), then it is a religious problem.
 
Here's a video of the "refugees" in Hungary throwing away food and water and chanting "No, No" and "Germany, Germany":

Here's some information about what Muslims do with Red Cross packages: http://www.christiansinpakistan.com...rom-red-cross-because-of-the-crosses-on-them/

Whatever percentage of the total are Syrian refugees (you can easily buy forged Syrian documents by the way), they're being screwed by hundreds of thousands of invaders who want nothing but welfare, free housing and free education, of course at the expense of German and other EU taxpayers. You need not look further than the fact that all of these "migrants" are not stopping at a half dozen European countries where they can claim asylum and be safe. They want the benefits that most people in the world don't have. Shame on Germany and Merkel for encouraging them.

Admittedly, that video was painful to watch, especially seeing the hungry children rushing to receive the aid even when the adults weren't. Perfectly good food and water wasted.
 
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Donation?stupid apple. Why don't you donate since you guys are making lot of money from customers?


By all mean, shame Apple for doing a little something to make it easy for their customers to donate. :rolleyes:

You have zero knowledge whether or not they have donated to the cause but of course it didn't stop you from posting.
 
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"Big screen TVs" in 1996-1998? Yes, I'm sure. And smartphones, too, I'm guessing?

I don't know about Switzerland and Austria, but no, you can't just have a "pretty care free life" in Germany as a refugee. Nor do you get "way more money than needed for essential living". Nor does any of the care you do get last after your request has been processed, at which point you're either going to leave, or to work.

Free housing, free food, free clothing, free education, free healthcare, no work, and a couple hundred Euros each month in allowance money. THAT'S what all those people coming not just from Syria are coming for. And even if wasn't like that, that's still what every one of these people thinks they'll be getting. Whereas when I was looking to rent a flat at a reasonable price in Munich, I was told they'd rather rent to asylum seekers because their money is guaranteed as it comes from the government each month, whereas I could possibly lose my job and then where would they be?
 
1. "islam" isn't a race
2. there's nothing wrong with disliking islam, it's only wrong to dislike people because they happen to be muslim.

1. Show me where I said Islam was a race.

2. Yes. Thanks for clearing that up.

3. You're doing too much super lawyering right now. You knew exactly what I was implying. Let's not pretend that certain people aren't taking religion and race into account with this situation.
 
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I know it may seem like blast to you, (a two time Obama voter) but it's not. Besides, everyone makes mistakes, sometimes even two prez election cycles in a row.

you're talking about 2000 & 2004? ...hmm guess we agree on something then =)
 
Your conscience bud. Personally These people have ZERO choice. You think they want to leave their home?

Imagine your salary is 3000€ per month and there's a place where you can get 10.000€ per month without lifting a finger. Are you trying to tell me that you wouldn't want to go to that place?
 
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Not only that, they are young men who should be fighting for their country, not running to the most generous welfare distributors in Europe. Pathetic.
I'm not sure you've thought this through. If they were to go after the symptomatic enemy perhaps, but if they go after the causal enemy, your next post would be about how we need to defend the U.S. from the invading angry Muslims. Oh wait...
 
I'm not sure you've thought this through. If they were to go after the symptomatic enemy perhaps, but if they go after the causal enemy, your next post would be about how we need to defend the U.S. from the invading angry Muslims. Oh wait...

Really? The US was still a 1,000 years away from existence when Islamic expansionism started.
 
No thanks


LOL
i had my post deleted and a slap PM telling me trite messages were not allowed.

So I shall add to it by saying this

/Sighs........I for one am so tired of this story and think they can all go live in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Qatar, Egypt, Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan, Palestinian Territories, Lebanon, Oman, Iran, etc.
At the very least, countries other than Jordan could step up to the plate but they won't, not to any great degree.

Having worked in legal firms for immigration , predominantly with refugees, I am too familiar with information that the average person would not see, that i can easily read between the lines, or clearly, that the refugees have learned themselves and believe that Germany just happens to have an aging population rather than a young one and are desperately in need of cheap skilled labour so i am a bit tired of hearing them bleat on to the rest of the world that we here in the West aren't doing enough.

Think anti semitism is at an all time high now, for the first time since the 1930s? LOL...just wait. You haven't seen anything yet!

Will ad that where I am, we are 6 weeks away from an election and am even more tired of all the other parties using this as an election platform when none of them give the damn they claim but are just using it to score points and/or to attack the party that resides in power at the moment that wisely acting as they should, without emotion.

Perhaps my original post of /sighs would have been best left untouched!
 
When dealing with refugees legally, there is usually a legal understanding that the first country that they step foot in is the country they must reside in.
These are economic refugees on a massive scale and just wait until we have it confirmed that a per centage aren't even from Syria.
Dealt with this day in and out for some time, legally.

(excuse the poor grammar....really did not wish to see this subject in my notification box as well, hence, grammatically poor, typos, etc )
 
Imagine your salary is 3000€ per month and there's a place where you can get 10.000€ per month without lifting a finger. Are you trying to tell me that you wouldn't want to go to that place?

Imagine that you understood the difference between refugees of War and economic migrants. Are you telling me you are?
 
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