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I don’t understand the logic of demanding innovation and yet also demanding they go back to a less innovative round design. It’s old and tired, and has been done by everyone already. I want a design that displays all the pertinent information I need in a better form factor tailored to perform the way I need it to. I don’t see the plain round face being as capable.

I’ll continue to be a supporter of Apple whichever design they choose as long as they don’t make too many sacrifices in capabilities and end user privacy.
We don't want the rectangular Apple Watch to be replaced by the round watch, just another option so we can wear something we think looks a lot more stylish. I agree it won't work as well in some cases but in many other cases it would work a lot better. And give us an always on option too. :D
 
We don't want the rectangular Apple Watch to be replaced by the round watch, just another option so we can wear something we think looks a lot more stylish. I agree it won't work as well in some cases but in many other cases it would work a lot better. And give us an always on option too. :D

I’ve yet to see a good rendering showing a round design with real apps displayed (full message view, banking, weather or music), they’re mostly just images of the watch face, so many other offerings already do this and meet whatever “stylish” definition is in at the time. I can agree with the always on option.
 
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Well I guess it's time to go without my series 2 for a bit while Apple replaces the scratched up screen so I can sell it and replace with one of these new models. Looks great and I've wanted to go to one with a harder screen so may go SS this time.
 
I must say I've never been bothered with the square design of the Apple Watch... It only adds more pixels for some more info compared to a circle design with the same physical width.
 
If you make the circle is the same height the amount of pixels is almost identical.

Hmm, if the width (or height which are the same for a square) is the same, that means that the width equals the diameter of the circle. Let's say 42mm.

For the square: 42*42= 1764 square mm.
For the circle: r = 42/2. So 21*21*3.14 = 1385 square mm.

So I'd say the amount of pixels is obviously less for the circle that has the same width as the square, like a stated before. 21-ish % less.
 
Hmm, if the width (or height which are the same for a square) is the same, that means that the width equals the diameter of the circle. Let's say 42mm.

For the square: 42*42= 1764 square mm.
For the circle: r = 42/2. So 21*21*3.14 = 1385 square mm.

So I'd say the amount of pixels is obviously less for the circle that has the same width as the square, like a stated before. 21-ish % less.
The Apple Watch isn't a square though. With the current case size it would only be around 6% less.
 
Hmm, if the width (or height which are the same for a square) is the same, that means that the width equals the diameter of the circle. Let's say 42mm.

For the square: 42*42= 1764 square mm.
For the circle: r = 42/2. So 21*21*3.14 = 1385 square mm.

So I'd say the amount of pixels is obviously less for the circle that has the same width as the square, like a stated before. 21-ish % less.

Indeed it is not square. Nor does Apple's design utilize the entire area of the display, whereas Huawei's does. Apple has always had a thick bezel, and even the rumored larger display area will still have a significant bezel.

This graphic overlay is from Apple's own developer literature. The watches reflect actual display area. The inner turquoise area is Apple's current display area, and the outer turquoise/purple outline reflects the 15% increase that's been rumored. With that increase, the display area will be about the same. Though keep in mind the new watch will supposedly have rounded corners meaning there will actually be fewer additional pixels than this graphic suggests.

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You can see that the width of the round watch is bigger. If Apple would make it the same width, it would even have more pixels.

I quote myself: It only adds more pixels for some more info compared to a circle design with the same physical width.
 
You can see that the width of the round watch is bigger. If Apple would make it the same width, it would even have more pixels.

I quote myself: It only adds more pixels for some more info compared to a circle design with the same physical width.
It's the height of the watch that determines how it wears on the wrist which is why Apple designates it's watches as 38mm and 42mm. If they ever release a round watch it would only really make sense to make the diameter the same as the height of the current watches, i.e. 38mm and 42mm.
 
Mea culpa for comparing to a square whilst the Apple Watch has a rectangular shape. Nevertheless there will always be less pixels in the circle with the same height than the current screen ratio the Apple Watch uses albeit the difference will be smaller than in my calculation above.
 
Mea culpa for comparing to a square whilst the Apple Watch has a rectangular shape. Nevertheless there will always be less pixels in the circle with the same height than the current screen ratio the Apple Watch uses albeit the difference will be smaller than in my calculation above.

Rectangular or circular - it's interesting to think about I guess.

The largest company on the planet has a lot of horsepower to make us whatever they think is best.

Traditional wristwatches can be found in many shapes. Of course "putting a screen on it" has usually meant that a "digital watch" will be rectangular - but we don't know what will be the best with absolute certainty do we?

Would Magritte say "This is not a watch" I wonder? The icon that is the "wristwatch" is very interesting.

Maybe we should be thankful they didn't make a "pocket watch" or a "necklace watch"

As long as it takes a licking and keeps on ticking maybe the wristwatch idea can continue to be desirable.


Anyways - I need reading glasses to see up close. If you hit 50 years of age and need reading glasses, and then you hear the news that the new Apple Watch is going to have a bigger screen, it makes you happy.

More complications - Of Course we all want it!

I think everyone sees the new Apple Watch 4 and likes that spy shot because it shows a bunch of complications - it's Star Trek, and THAT is probably what nerds want. My wife would much rather have a Ulyse Nardin Ladies watch, and doesn't care about the Apple Watch, but for computer nerds like us - yah, this new Apple Watch is going to be irresistible.

I think it all makes sense too - they have had 4 years fooling around with Apple Watch ideas, and now they have the "iPhone 4" of the Apple Watch.

Seems like the 4th wave is the one to catch.


IMHO the best Apple Watch design of the future might be a "wrist bangle" - just put a loop of flexible OLED or LCD or whatever you want to call it (TV screen!) around the wrist, and have tons and tons of vertical space - you could physically spin it on your wrist for certain purposes maybe (to see what is displayed around the other side of the wrist). Hey eventually, maybe you could flip the bangle inside out to have even more screen space. I dunno. It would take magic.
 
IMHO the best Apple Watch design of the future might be a "wrist bangle" - just put a loop of flexible OLED or LCD or whatever you want to call it (TV screen!) around the wrist, and have tons and tons of vertical space - you could physically spin it on your wrist for certain purposes maybe (to see what is displayed around the other side of the wrist). Hey eventually, maybe you could flip the bangle inside out to have even more screen space. I dunno. It would take magic.

I agree, you might just have predicted the future (of smartwatches). Reminiscent of current sport bands, kind of
 
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You can see that the width of the round watch is bigger. If Apple would make it the same width, it would even have more pixels.

I quote myself: It only adds more pixels for some more info compared to a circle design with the same physical width.

If Apple strapped an iPod nano-sized watch on a wrist sideways, it would have a LOT more pixels than almost any round watch too (or any square watch for that matter). But this is not what Apple is doing, nor is it what people are buying. There are very few large square watches of any kind on the market, probably because people don’t want to wear giant squares on their wrists. Apple makes two sizes of Apple Watches. The 38mm has even fewer pixels and display area than the 42mm, and if everybody wore a 42mm they would have more pixels and a greater display area. But it’s not always about more pixels.

Nobody is arguing that a square with the same height has less area than a circle of the same size. But what we are discussing is what is actually happening in the market place. So I don’t know why we‘re even having this discussion.

Mea culpa for comparing to a square whilst the Apple Watch has a rectangular shape. Nevertheless there will always be less pixels in the circle with the same height than the current screen ratio the Apple Watch uses albeit the difference will be smaller than in my calculation above.

The current screen ratio the Apple Watch uses, does not have more pixels than the current Huawei screen ratio of the same height. I have already demonstrated this in numerous graphic examples, if not the actual math. Even the new larger display will not necessarily have more, albeit they will be much closer. That said, it really boils down to the size of the pixels whether one has more than the other. But all things being equal, Apple’s current screen ratio clearly has fewer pixels than a round watch of the same height, and this is likely to be the case in the next iteration as well, based on available evidence.

But let’s do the math:

Current 42mm Apple Watch display area: 30.08mm x 24.34mm = 732.15mm
Rumored 42mm Apple Watch display area: 35.34mm x 28.27mm = 999.06mm
Current 42mm Huawei Watch display area: 18.17mm x 18.17mm x 3.14 = 1036.67mm

So Apple is purportedly closing the gap with the next gen watch, but it's still not going to be more pixels compared to one of the largest display area, round watches available on the market. Perhaps with the Series 5 watch, Apple will increase the display area even further, and will match or slightly surpass the current Huawei round watch -- then again, Huawei has a few millimeters it can increase its display area into the frame as well, so perhaps it will eventually be a stalemate -- that is until Apple starts increasing the width and changing the aspect ratio, which as I've mentioned seems to be one of the least popular choices for customers based on the market for wristwatches currently. But who knows, maybe that will change one day based on fashion and market trends. But that's a different debate.

Square in a circle is really not a debate worth having since we all agree that, all things being being equal, given a square and a circle of the same height, the square will always have a greater area. But the practical reality is that no one is really making or buying a watch like that in any serious quantities. That said, while the raw available area is not in contest, the issue of utilizing the available pixels most efficiently definitely is, and that's the real debate in my opinion.
 
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accidentally my ass.

three months ago would have been 'accidentally'

**** you to those who add words to create clickbait titles.

Less insulting would be:

"Leaked Images of Upcoming Apple Watch Series 4 Models With Larger Displays"
 
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