Gosh, I entirely rewrote my comment very shortly after posting it. Why are you guys replying to THAT one?
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Apple Acknowledges Consumers Want Larger and Cheaper Phones
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Gosh, I entirely rewrote my comment very shortly after posting it. Why are you guys replying to THAT one?
It might be prudent to read up on something thoroughly and get a grasp on new technology, before trying to "be right" for the sake of having to reply and belittle someone. I won't be so rude as to gloat like a buffoon, but your really don't (or didn't) seem aware of the TOTAL re-design of the Mac Pro - not only aesthetically - in the current iteration. That's cool man - we all have knowledge boundaries, and now yours have been expanded a little - it happens to us all each day
The newest revision did away with SATA in favor of what seems to be PCI-express for its internal boot drive. It obtained thunderbolt 2, which supplies bandwidth for both displays and other peripherals. 3 thunderbolt 2 chips are allocated across 6 ports, and "I think" they support a half duplex via channel bonding. I read that in several articles but couldn't find it listed in any of intel's documents. You haven't bothered to give a response why thunderbolt is better than the use of something such as a SAS HBA --> DAS. If you're that knowledgeable why not provide a response as opposed to further condescension? Thunderbolt would be a lot more attractive if you had either the availability of inexpensive options that are available with something such as eSATA or the robustness of what can be gained from an 8 lane SAS HBA and DAS at pricing competitive with existing solutions in that area. Either way you're relying on PCI lanes that must be allocated from the cpu package. The mac pro has 40 such lanes, regardless of how they are allocated. Now what exactly is your problem with my statement?
Exactly, they can still market their flagship as the 'optimum' size and it gives them greater differentiation between the iPad and iPhone market.
If you had a Galaxy Note size phone, you're much less likely to purchase an iPad mini and Apple is in the business of selling more units, not cannibalising their own expanding markets.
That way the big screen users can always get processor/camera envy while the flagship users can get pixel envy.
The end of iPhone will come when Apple can no longer make the necessary margins on it. That doesn't mean the end of smartphones-- music players continued long after iPod faded.
The screen size is a temporary fix. The real question is whether there is any room left to innovate in phones. Maybe, but there isn't much in the way of low hanging fruit any longer. Indoor positioning maybe-- but that requires cooperation from building owners or someone to provide the maps and possibly infrastructure. Whatever the name of that Google tech is that knows what you want to do next better than you do might be another one if people can get past the creep factor.
Frankly, I don't think a lot of women want a phone bigger than their palm. You may wear cargo pants, but a lot of women's clothing barely have pockets big enough for their keys.
I'm with you. Not sure what Toltepeceno uses his other hand for most of the time, but I'm usually using mine to drive, or carry something. The 5 is already challenging to navigate the Music and Podcast apps while driving because half the controls are at the top and half at the bottom.
Screen size is always a compromise. If we could, we'd all want big screens that took no space. I've got 3 screens in my life now and they each have a niche: iPhone is my communications device, iPad is my entertainment device, and the computer is my productivity device. I don't have a need for a larger communications device that is harder to carry but too small to replace an iPad.
Take it easy my friend, have a cup of coffee and move on... I don't have enough hours in the day to fine-pick apart stranger's comments - I've moved on, and hey - does it matter?
Have a good day!
I have come to a deep hate for the word "innovation". Barely anyone uses it correctly. Apple as innovators? Not really, they did not invent the phone, cell phone, smart phone, computer, etc. Apple as perfectionists? Yes. They perfected smartphones and changed them in a perfect way and improved them greatly. Whether perfectionism = innovation I do not know but I'm tired of hearing people complain about whether something is "innovative" or not.
Exactly, they can still market their flagship as the 'optimum' size and it gives them greater differentiation between the iPad and iPhone market.
If you had a Galaxy Note size phone, you're much less likely to purchase an iPad mini and Apple is in the business of selling more units, not cannibalising their own expanding markets.
That way the big screen users can always get processor/camera envy while the flagship users can get pixel envy.
I read somewhere that cannabalisation wasn't a huge issue. If I want to spend $x with Apple. I will spend $x, doesnt matter if my product changes. And keeping me in the ecosystem is worth more than a lower margin if I bought a product with a lower margin.
Please no 6C. C is the default for the slightly cheaper and lower spec/quality product.
When the competition all unveiled 7" tablets, Apple mocked them but realized there was a demand. So instead of admitting they were wrong, they brought a 7.9" iPad mini. So closer to 8" and claimed by doing this, had 35% more screen real estate.
My guess they'll take a similar tact with the iPhone. They've said those phablet sized phones were too big to use with one hand. But understanding a demand for a larger screen, they'll hit a sweet spot of about 4.8" but keep a very svelte form factor by reducing the bezel. They will claim it's still usable with one hand and not have to eat their own words.
My guess they'll take a similar tact with the iPhone. They've said those phablet sized phones were too big to use with one hand. But understanding a demand for a larger screen, they'll hit a sweet spot of about 4.8" but keep a very svelte form factor by reducing the bezel. They will claim it's still usable with one hand and not have to eat their own words.
Remember that it was Apple that replaced the iPod. There were cell phones before iPhone, but Apple saw that they'd run out of room to maintain iPod margins without disrupting their own market.
Hopefully they're looking for the iPhone replacement to obsolete the smartphone, or they're going to see their profits massively squeezed. That's what this report is saying: people want incremental improvements for lower cost. That's death for a high margin company.
"I read somewhere"
A brilliant basis for life.
If you - with respect, ignorantly, assume the 5C is "lower quality", I must conclude, with others, that you've yet to physically hold one in your hand and USE it. I take it you realise HOW many types of plastic types, properties and manufacturing (moulding, milling, polishing, routing, lacquering) processes there are? It seems not.
Unbelievable...
Woman here. My phone nor my keys go in my pockets. I don't know many women that put either in their pockets but I'm sure they are out there. I want a 5" phone. Just providing the opposite perspective.
This whole phone in pocket thing is another thing that was foreign to me until I came to MacRumors. Along with the "phones should only be used with one hand" thing.
have 6 female co-workers that have a variation of the Note, all love it, none put them in pockets, none complain about using with one hand
the real world is quite different than the internet it seems
Great points. No one is magic and can read the future. Apple didnt want a small iPad, 9.7 is "perfect" as is the 3.5 iPhone. Time has proven those early comments incorrect. Ballmer the same re the iPad. At the time they went as they thought, and like everything else, they need to evolve as well.
LOL! I also know quite a few women with a Note. They love it, swear by it and will never even consider another phone size. Go figure.
"I read somewhere"
A brilliant basis for life.
If you - with respect, ignorantly, assume the 5C is "lower quality", I must conclude, with others, that you've yet to physically hold one in your hand and USE it. I take it you realise HOW many types of plastic types, properties and manufacturing (moulding, milling, polishing, routing, lacquering) processes there are? It seems not.
Unbelievable...
Apple said:"hey look at the 5c! It comes in colors!!!! Isn't this better then a 5?"
And the people said:"no, if you offered the 5 at the same price I would of rather bought that"
What is a cheaper phone to make? 5 or 5c? Therefor greed...
And I have held a 5 and 5c at the same time and the 5 is the better phone...
Meeting expectations and failing is two different things, that should be simple to grasp. Apple has not made expectations before and does that mean they failed? Certainly not.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...ons-company-earns-13.1-billion-profit_id51868
I will believe they will copy everyone else and make a bigger screen iphone, however, this IS Apple and they are much much more likely to charge you more for it, not less. At the very very least it will cost the exact same as the 5S does.
I honestly don't know any women that keep their phones in their pockets because they all carry a purse.
They currently charge upwards of 450% more than the actual manufacturing cost of the phone. They're already absurdly expensive off contract, so I doubt it'll be much more expensive than it is now... if at all.
Please stop saying this. That "Laws of anatomy" thing you keep saying. It's something you made up. You can't just insert a word behind "Law of" and have it actually mean something. Larger phones can be used 1 handed. People do it all the time. Will it be exactly like a 3.5" phone? No, but neither would a 3", 4", or 4.3" phone.
There are phone buyers out here with over forty year old eyes and discretionary income. I know several who have gone to the dark side to get a slightly larger screen. The screen size makes a difference. I was amazed at how much easier it is to see a friend's new android phone. He wanted an iPhone. Screen size was the deciding factor.
Before Apple who had:
* magnetic connector for laptop power connectors
* all aluminum chassis for laptops & PCs
* ultra-thin laptops with no optical or spin-drive(Macbook Air)
* a touch-only device that worked(iPhone)
* fingerprint sensor that worked properly(TouchID)
* 64-bit ARM processor in a shipping product
* the 2013 Mac Pro
no matter which way you slice it Apple is a leader, innovator and not a follower in any sense of the word. They might not invent a technology, but they will be the first to apply it a meaningful way for normal people which is in itself an innovation when you consider the state of the tech industry prior to 2007.
Yes, the form factor is obvious on a bigger screen phone. Not everyone has an issue with pockets, I have a 5S, I hardly ever, almost never, put it in a pants pocket. carry in hand, jacket pocket etc. For these, the inconvenience of size is well amnd truly overshadowed by the convenience of the screen for web, etc.
Smartphone for many are SmartDevices that can also be used to call. Its used as a mini PC than a phone
My eyes are fine and it's starting to bother me. If they don't come out with a bigger phone I'm either jumping ship or getting a tablet.