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Oh, goody, a bigger screen for iOS7! All that glorious white space with really-too-skinny-to-be-functional, light grey Neue Helvetica... gone to waste.
 
Apples innovation is not only creating new devices but meeting consumer demand for improved and better devices than already exist
A screen larger than 4 inches may be an innovation depending what kind of technology is used
 
Just curious what "innovation" your life is missing right now? I don't need innovation for innovations sake or because some techies are bored. This Tuaw piece sums it up nicely for me:

It is the innovation that will propel AAPL back to a reasonable trading multiple - it is an investors perspective that I am commenting from. Additionally, Tim has been talking on and on about the new product categories for 2013 and 2014 - time to deliver is upon him - tick tock tick tock.

From your question though:

ala carte Apple TV content so I can cut the cable
vastly improved Apple TV interface
Apple TV 4k capability
4k monitor
Aperture 4 raw processing and faster / expanded camera compatibility
Improvements in Maps, Siri

The list could go on depending on who you ask.

You think only Apple is responsible for or can deliver ala carte TV? Blame the content providers, not Apple.
 
1) cheaper in price, of course who doesn't !?
2) cheaper in build quality, and innovation? no thank you

I won't trade build quality for price.

larger phone? I would like the screen to be bigger but not the whole device. (so all I want is for Apple to build the screen closer to the edges of the current size)
 
If the next iPhone fails to be 'new or innovative', is it all on Tim Cook? Or did Steve have hands in this model, too?

It wont be, as no phone manufacturer is being new or innovative, most everything is now already done, and mature.

TC was told by the board to innovate. He has told us there are new products coming. This means there are new products coming, and the existing products will just have an incremental update as usual, plus the extra option of a larger screen, which will be meh by those that seem to hate a bigger screen, and about time by those that want one. The focus needs to be on the OS and the hardware integration and the reduction of stupid restrictions, such as software only acceleration when playing a non support video format
 
I agree and disagree. I'm not sure where to take a stance. While the iPhone is about to be 8 years old, people continue to buy it (and smartphones). I don't see smartphones dying out any time soon. But then again, who knows
The iPod only ran its course because an entirely new product category (the iPhone) essentially supplanted it. Android is providing what Apple doesn't but it hasn't created a new product that renders the iPhone obsolete, so I don't think the iPod comparison is applicable here. If Apple figures out a way to compete on cost, features and screen size, they'll be right back in the game.
 
He is obviously joking. Do you think Apple can actually create a shrink ray?

Come on mate, NZ'ers are meant to be good with sarcasm;)

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Steve.

My post wasnt about the shrink ray. It was about the well known 3.5 is the perfect size, which seems to now be the 4 is the perfect size. Apple should just man up and say that 3.5 was the perfect size for a smartphone, but now that the phone is for many, the least used app, the perfect size is now bigger.
 
If they end up listening to the market, then they'd be facing the "innovators dilemma" which Jobs (I believe highlighted as a favorite book). It's not about giving consumers what they want. Apple will fall behind listening to their customers' needs.

Edit: Apple can't get caught up in current needs. It needs to look to the future.

In certain circumstances. The innovators dilemma does not mean that you totally ignore customers and fail to give them what they want.

You should listen to customer feedback, but you should not design your products solely off a customer survey. You listen, you consider, and you only do what makes sense to you and your vision of the product.

What Apple Needs is New Innovative Products. The iPhone this June will be almost 8 Years old. The iPhone Gravy Train is almost over. Its time to invent some new products. Just like the iPod had its run, The iPhone run is coming to a close soon.

Apple does need new innovative products, but I disagree that the iPhone is over. The slide shows that smartphones are still growing rapidly, and I haven't noticed them becoming any less important in our daily lives.

The vision of the future Steve Jobs left Apple with is that of the Post-PC era. The PC is no longer the hub of your digital experience; it's but another device. The future is a digital ecosystem consisting of a multitude of devices.

- The role of the smartphone in that future is that it is a portable companion which provides a large screen with which you can do certain kinds of tasks well (communication, location-based services, quick web browsing, etc).

- The role of the tablet is more uncertain. It certainly does certain types of tasks better than a smartphone (e.g. gaming, longer web browsing, certain creative tasks), but it is less portable and more likely a couch or travelling device.

- Apple's next play seems to be wearables. Those devices are much more personal than any of the other categories since you physically attach them to your body. What kinds of things could a wearable device be better at doing?

The interesting thing about this vision is that it relies on a critical infrastructure which Apple critically lacks: the cloud. The cloud ties all of these devices together and enables separate devices to work coherently with a single person and what they're doing. Apple are finding it very difficult to build a solid cloud platform.

It's not an immediate concern - despite the rhetoric, they aren't that far behind their competitors. However, it is a very serious medium/long-term concern. Google Now vs. Siri is one example of where Apple's cloud services are lacking, but if they don't catch up quickly the "cloud gap" could start manifesting itself in more and more important ways.

Apple have strengths - they can build exceptionally good standalone devices (including the software which powers it). The question for Apple's future is whether or not they can build an overall platform which encompasses multiple devices which is just as good.
 
I wonder if Apple has similar slide decks about the Mac Pro line, saying:

•Strong demand from Pro-customers wanting *dual* or even *quad* CPU-sockets, plenty of internal storage bays, user replaceable GPUs with offerings from nVidia and AMD, 8+ Ram sockets & larger, 4K MATTE screens.
•Competition has drastically improved their hardware offering.

I think these slides may have gotten lost when they got around to designing the nMP.
Are you listening Tim???

:p
 
I wonder if Apple has similar slide decks about the Mac Pro line, saying:

•Strong demand from Pro-customers wanting *dual* or even *quad* CPU-sockets, plenty of internal storage bays, user replaceable GPUs with offerings from nVidia and AMD, 8+ Ram sockets & larger, 4K MATTE screens.
•Competition has drastically improved their hardware offering.

I think these slides may have gotten lost when they got around to designing the nMP.
Are you listening Tim???

:p

Are you aware that internal SATA would severely throttle the capacity of the 2013 MP architecture? Just because SATA is prolific and legacy, doesn't mean the line is drawn there. Thunderbolt is MUCH faster - who cares about internal bays? People with no vision. Daisy-chain with WAY more devices, or limit yourself to a fixed number of internal bays?

Apple have planned for future developments in storage speed; would you have them release a new revision EVERY year? You'd complain then that you'd wasted money investing.

Gosh, the longer I stay here, the more I see that the reasoning and evaluation skills of the masses are very limited indeed. Leave the setting of standards to the people who know what they're doing, ok.

If you're unhappy with Mac Pro, spend the time you're wasting bemoaning the imaginary "limitations", wasting time building yourself a nice "hackintosh" - you can hamper yourself all you like then.
 
I personally just like using one hand to do everything on my iPhone 5.

I'm probably in the minority, but I hope they still make 4" versions in the future. There's still a large group of people who would prefer easy one handed operation.

I'm sorry but this is an overrated, old and tired excuse. One hand operation in touchscreen era is complete BS.

Yes you can operate iPhone using one hand. Then I can do it on a big Android too. But the point is, one handed operation is not comfortable for a long period. It's for emergency situations for when it's not possible to use your phone with both hands e.g when you're commuting, eating, cooking etc.

For regular use, two hands operation is the most efficient and comfortable. I could type faster, and more accurate.

So I would gladly embrace the new bigger iPhone.
 
Fortunately Apple has came to their senses. I would not go any beyond 4.7" though, I have no problems with one-hand operations on my HTC One (2013) but I really can't comfortably use a Galaxy S4 (5" screen) single-handedly. With this trend of phones getting beyond 5" (including the new HTC One) I really feel that Apple should just come in and offer a 4.7" iPhone as the sweet spot.
 
Are you aware that internal SATA would severely throttle the capacity of the 2013 MP architecture? Just because SATA is prolific and legacy, doesn't mean the line is drawn there. Thunderbolt is MUCH faster - who cares about internal bays? People with no vision. Daisy-chain with WAY more devices, or limit yourself to a fixed number of internal bays?

This isn't remotely accurate. What remains to be seen is whether the SATA lanes provided directly by the chipset go away on a future revision. Thunderbolt as of today is actually slower than preceding solutions. There are many more stable DAS solutions running SAS connections than you can find with thunderbolt. As for daisy chaining, you only have a fixed amount of bandwidth, and many of those DAS enclosures don't support daisy chaining anyway. It requires a different thunderbolt chip and further validation. That you state that they would limit themselves to a fixed number of bays shows that you are either ignorant of the technology or extremely disingenuous. Oddly I bet on the latter, although I don't know why you would choose to misrepresent such a thing.
 
I'm sorry but this is an overrated, old and tired excuse. One hand operation in touchscreen era is complete BS.

Yes you can operate iPhone using one hand. Then I can do it on a big Android too. But the point is, one handed operation is not comfortable for a long period. It's for emergency situations for when it's not possible to use your phone with both hands e.g when you're commuting, eating, cooking etc.

For regular use, two hands operation is the most efficient and comfortable. I could type faster, and more accurate.

So I would gladly embrace the new bigger iPhone.


it's almost impossible operating my GN3 with one hand

nice thing about iphone was you can walk, read email and operate it at the same time with one hand
 
I switched from an iPhone 5 with 4" screen, to a Galaxy S4 with a 5" screen, and the difference in screen size is amazing! I loved the larger screen so much that I soon switched out my Galaxy S4 for a Galaxy Note 3 with a 5.7" screen.

Navigating around a large screen isn't a problem if the OS is designed with a larger screen size in mind, or flexible enough to allow users to customise their experience with the OS to suit their needs. Unfortunately iOS fails in both these regards.

For example, with large screen Android devices (such as my Note 3) it can often be a stretch reaching the lock button at/near the top of the phone, however Android lets me install an app, which I position in the bottom right of my home screen, that allows me to lock my phone with a mere touch of the app icon. iOS does not permit such functionality.

There's no way in hell I'd even consider another iPhone unless the screen size is >5".
 
it's almost impossible operating my GN3 with one hand

nice thing about iphone was you can walk, read email and operate it at the same time with one hand

I could scroll, tap and read my email just fine on a HTC One. Yes it's almost impossible to type with one hand ona bigger screen, but I can barely do it on an iphone too. The furthest key like QAZ on the keyboard is barely reachable so I woudn't use it in regular basis.

If you're complaining about one handed operation, do you remember Blackberry? Much much smaller phone but did you see anyone's complaining about lack of one-hand-usability?
 
This isn't remotely accurate. What remains to be seen is whether the SATA lanes provided directly by the chipset go away on a future revision.

SATA was replaced by an internal PCIe disk, Thunderbolt is many times faster than SATA3, SATA Express is a direct response to new and faster SSD disks that chokes on SATA3, SATA Express is PCIe.

That you state that they would limit themselves to a fixed number of bays shows that you are either ignorant of the technology or extremely disingenuous. Oddly I bet on the latter, although I don't know why you would choose to misrepresent such a thing.

With dual GPUs as standard they would limit themselves to two internal slots, so yeah that's fixed number.
 
They aren't compromising on quality by going with a 5c. The 5c is outselling every other phone on the market other then the 5s.

The 5c is possibly the ugliest thing I have ever seen--that black faceplate with contrasting colored bodies looks like a cheap toy phone.
 
This is how you know Apple is going to fail. Nobody in the media or the public remembers of course because that would require some degree of intelligence but Steve Jobs famously said "the customers do not know what they want". When asked about market research.

You think Steve Jobs asked the customers when he came up with the iPhone and revolutionized the cell phone market forever?

I am ashamed of the mediocrity of Apple executives.
 
It will be suicidal if they don't offer a 4" flagship model alongside a 5"+, say iPhone 6 and iPhone 6XL. It's not a zero-sum game w/ sizes, but rather the more the merrier, something for everyone. Apple's problem now is one size (and essentially price too) fits all, except it doesn't apparently.

Well, they're about to discontinue the 3.5" model, so you never know.
 
Hmm, insult ratio starting to increase!

There is in fact no wrong or right answer. Some want a 3.5, they are 100% right. Some want a 5", they are 100% right, there is no wrong. This is a personal preference.

Look at it another way.

A Whats the best size for one handed phone, given that you use a phone as mainly a phone? Probably 3.5 to 4.

B Is there anything wrong with a 3.5 tablet? I'd say yes, too small

Some want a phone based size, some want a tablet based size, different uses. Some want a bit O both. The only wrong as I see it is having zero choice as is the case at the moment where it is 4. Having too many is bad for Apple production costs in having 4, 4.7, 5.5. I suggest two sizes, 4 and 5.

They may be consideiing an iPad Nano, say 6", in which case they can throw in the phone hardware and avoid a new product design
 
$350 / No Contract is the magic combination for me now that AT&T has lowered their out-of-contract pricing.

I'm about to order a Nexus5 for myself and replace the wife's iPhone with my current Nexus4 (which I have found to be an outstanding phone). Fortunately she was open to the move to Android after experiencing IOS7.

I just don't see Apple coming up with a phone magical enough to make me want to part with $650+ or pay AT&T $40 more per month ever again.
 
This is how you know Apple is going to fail. Nobody in the media or the public remembers of course because that would require some degree of intelligence but Steve Jobs famously said "the customers do not know what they want". When asked about market research.

You think Steve Jobs asked the customers when he came up with the iPhone and revolutionized the cell phone market forever?

I am ashamed of the mediocrity of Apple executives.

Do you really think that Tim Cook or Johnny Ive think any differently about product vision than Jobs? They are all of the same visionary mindset.
 
This isn't remotely accurate. What remains to be seen is whether the SATA lanes provided directly by the chipset go away on a future revision. Thunderbolt as of today is actually slower than preceding solutions. There are many more stable DAS solutions running SAS connections than you can find with thunderbolt. As for daisy chaining, you only have a fixed amount of bandwidth, and many of those DAS enclosures don't support daisy chaining anyway. It requires a different thunderbolt chip and further validation. That you state that they would limit themselves to a fixed number of bays shows that you are either ignorant of the technology or extremely disingenuous. Oddly I bet on the latter, although I don't know why you would choose to misrepresent such a thing.

It might be prudent to read up on something thoroughly and get a grasp on new technology, before trying to "be right" for the sake of having to reply and belittle someone. I won't be so rude as to gloat like a buffoon, but your really don't (or didn't) seem aware of the TOTAL re-design of the Mac Pro - not only aesthetically - in the current iteration. That's cool man - we all have knowledge boundaries, and now yours have been expanded a little - it happens to us all each day :)
 
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