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Duh!!!

I have been saying for (2) years that Apple needs to drop prices with the market, while I mostly refereed to iPad's, I also considered iPhone to be stretching it.

A gold plated mouse trap will not appeal to people who just want a mouse trap!
 
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You can change the battery in an iOS device. And those that "swap batteries" are the exception not the norm. As long as the battery makes it 2-3 years everyone is happy since by that time most are looking for an upgrade.
You make it sounds as if the battery on an iPhone can be changed as easy as a flashlight.

Are you saying a typical owner of an iPhone can change their own battery with no special tools or methods & it's self explanatory? :confused:
 
If they end up listening to the market, then they'd be facing the "innovators dilemma" which Jobs (I believe highlighted as a favorite book). It's not about giving consumers what they want. Apple will fall behind listening to their customers' needs.

Edit: Apple can't get caught up in current needs. It needs to look to the future.

There is a balance, sometimes you shouldn't listen to the masses, and sometimes you must listen to the masses.

Apple has screwed itself a few times in past, such as going with internal DVD's when the masses wanted CD-RW's
Jobs apologized for that.
 

Actually, more like this:

Never heard that… but he did apparently say:

"Customers can't anticipate what the technology can do. They won't ask for things that they think are impossible. But the technology may be ahead of them. If you happen to mention something, they'll say, ‘Of course, I'll take that. Do you mean I can have that, too?’ It sounds logical to ask customers what they want and then give it to them. But they rarely wind up getting what they really want that way."

Source: Inc, Apr. 1989

"It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."

Source: Business Week, May 12 1998

See http://allaboutstevejobs.com/sayings/stevejobsquotes.php

The real issue is that while customers can tell you a bit about what is wrong with an existing product, or what problem they'd like to solve with a *new* product, they suck at telling you what that solution should be. Especially in the new product case. However, that doesn't really apply all that often to a product going through incremental revisions, or problems with clear solutions. If customers say the screen is too small, I don't go off and design a magnifying lens, I make the screen bigger.

And I do say this as someone who likes the current physical size. If they can make the screen bigger, while keeping the size in the same ballpark as the 5s, I'll be fine with it.

Also keep in mind that Apple can do interesting things like Touch ID while also addressing basic gripes customers have about the product. Not all problems need a crazy solution, but not all problems are basic gripes either.
 
This is very interesting. I honestly believed at one point Apple could have totally dominated the mobile industry. But, the chose to stick with the small screen iPhones and develop iOS very slowly. As a result the competition is on Apples heels now. Even with the iPhone 5c, the price of this iPhone is very high compared to the competition. Sometimes I dont understand what Apple is doing????? :(
 
Except there's ZERO evidence Apple is dropping prices or intends to drop prices so that's hardly an argument Apple will eventually "give-in" to the market and produce much larger screen phones.
 
Of course Apple is doing competitive analysis. And the FACT that this is where most growth is coming from is not a subjective opinion or something that spells out doom for Apple – it's competitive analysis. Whether they decide they want to make a cheaper or larger phone based on this information is another matter. I'd love to have a larger iPhone. Apple would have done competitive analysis for MP3 players, tablets, and computers too. Some of that would have said that most computers being sold are cheaper (and they chose to ignore that) and other slides would have said that tablets have never sold (and they ignored that too). But sticking your head in the sand (as some in here are suggesting) is not smart business. You need all the facts before you make your decisions.
 
This is very interesting. I honestly believed at one point Apple could have totally dominated the mobile industry. But, the chose to stick with the small screen iPhones and develop iOS very slowly. As a result the competition is on Apples heels now. Even with the iPhone 5c, the price of this iPhone is very high compared to the competition. Sometimes I dont understand what Apple is doing????? :(

I don't think Apple could have done a thing about some smartphone prices headed well south of $100 USD, and I don't think Apple has any intention of ever competing in that market:

http://www.businessinsider.com/its-a-race-to-the-bottom-2014-2
 
What Apple Needs is New Innovative Products. The iPhone this June will be almost 8 Years old. The iPhone Gravy Train is almost over. Its time to invent some new products. Just like the iPod had its run, The iPhone run is coming to a close soon.

lol wut. So people just won't buy phones anymore? Don't be so daft.
 
You make it sounds as if the battery on an iPhone can be changed as easy as a flashlight.

Are you saying a typical owner of an iPhone can change their own battery with no special tools or methods & it's self explanatory? :confused:

No, I think that the point is most people never need to replace the battery during the time that they own the phone. Most people upgrade after 3 years at the latest and for those who don't, it's not paticularly hard to change the battery. If you don't want to do it yourself, you can always get it done at the AppleStore or from one of the many mobile phone repair depots.

It's not a big deal for most people. I could care less - it's never been a problem on any i-device that I have owned.
 
According to the Reuters article this own forum discussed

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/us-apple-iphone-display-idUSBREA3008020140401

the production of 5.5 inch screens could be delayed for "months". If this phone misses both the United States and China's main gift-giving / shopping season, why would Apple bother to release it early 2015? By the time the next season rolls around that phone would already be old news. It makes more sense for the 5.5 inch phone to be released no earlier than late-2015.

In which case there is no evidence the rumor-mongers claiming there was going to be a late-2014 5.5 inch phone ever had any information at all.
 
According to the Reuters article this own forum discussed

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/01/us-apple-iphone-display-idUSBREA3008020140401

the production of 5.5 inch screens could be delayed for "months". If this phone misses both the United States and China's main gift-giving / shopping season, why would Apple bother to release it early 2015? By the time the next season rolls around that phone would already be old news. It makes more sense for the 5.5 inch phone to be released no earlier than late-2015.

In which case there is no evidence the rumor-mongers claiming there was going to be a late-2014 5.5 inch phone ever had any information at all.

It does seem like a wiser course would be to release the 4.7 and see how it does. If people eat it up, then go for the 5.5 next cycle.
 
You make it sounds as if the battery on an iPhone can be changed as easy as a flashlight.

Are you saying a typical owner of an iPhone can change their own battery with no special tools or methods & it's self explanatory? :confused:

We'll, it's 2 pentalobe screws and a little work and it can be done. Pretty easy if you are familiar with computers.

If not, there are a gazillion places that will replace an iPhone battery for you. We have one in our mall. Heck, Apple will do it in store for $79 which is not bad for a genuine battery. Most cell phone batteries retail for $39-59 so it's still not a bad price.

Then again, I've not replaced a battery in an Apple mobile product so I wouldn't know.
 
What will be interesting is when the 6C appears it'll have the A7 chip which is still pretty damn competitive when compared to the S5 and HTC One M8 which would be an interesting situation for the entry level. As for the larger iPhone, I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up seeing a larger phone I doubt there will be huge 6" one but I could see a 4.7" or even a 5.5" but it depends on how they design it because if they do it right it is possible to deliver a larger screen without making the actual phone dimensions significantly larger than the currently one (smaller bezels etc).
 
nice thing about iphone was you can walk, read email and operate it at the same time with one hand

Multitasking!



Seriously though, if they pull an iPad mini plan, where it's simply a smaller device for a lower cost but all the same features, No question I'd go for the 4-incher. But you know, that's just me.
 
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