Oh for sure no doubt. Imagine every single bug reported from every single third party App during the beta period. It’s probably in the hundreds of thousands.
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Apple Acknowledges 'SIM Not Supported' Bug Impacting iPhone 14 Users
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Not sure what your point is. Hyperbole is a waste of time and space.
Are you having this issue? Or is the outrage directed at apple just because?
Are you having this issue or are you just responding in general?
The iPhone 14 is iOS 16 and yes a poster did comment on that and is talking about the experience.
Yes, I agree it should be fixed.
WFH is not for every company or every team within a company
It is a valuable tool when used appropriately. Blanket statements like WFH decreases quality are pure rubbish.
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Frocing e-sim was a giant pita ... could not activate e-sim bugs, hours on the phone with vzw support, then no matter what you did it said it needed to switch lines, unable to fix it, they insisted I had to go to the Apple store ( takes half a day, none nearby ), went to a physical VZ store, more of the same crap - you did not buy it from this store, where did you get this phone, so you have to go to Apple - this is an Apple issue. Got VZ to remove the phone and add it back to my account, with single e-sim as line 1. Suddenly everything worked, except a whole bunch of contacts and other stuff still says it needs another line ...
Frommmy observation, the e-sim was added twice, with the same assigned number, second was activate, but not usable ... type of thing.
Wasted more than a full day on that nonsense ... because, you know, Apple just did not want us to have sim cards any more.
Frommmy observation, the e-sim was added twice, with the same assigned number, second was activate, but not usable ... type of thing.
Wasted more than a full day on that nonsense ... because, you know, Apple just did not want us to have sim cards any more.
Every carrier that sells a subsidized device in the US still locks their phones.
If you pay full price (cash etc.) then the phone is USUALLY unlocked. Some carrier retail affiliates (non-corporate) might botch the process and sell you a phone with the lock still enabled while also paying full price for the phone but I can’t say for sure who or how many would do that.
I know for a fact that Apple tracks their inventory in SAP and that retail is tied to SAP updating the carrier lock database with which IMEI’s are associated with full price vs subsidized phones at the time of purchase.
So even if you bought a phone marked for a specific carrier (keep in mind these processes have been there in part due to including the carrier specific sims with the phones at the time of purchase but should change now that eSIM only is an option) and you pay full price at the Apple Store then SAP reflects this during the transaction and that carrier lock database is updated.
So when you take your fully paid for retail iPhone it will not impose any carrier locks during the activation process.
Remember that each time you setup the iPhone the carrier locks are passed down from Apple’s activation servers. (Usually happens very quickly and passively.)
Back in the early days of iOS and the iPhone the activation servers would be so overloaded on phone launch days that many people would get home with their new device and be unable to even use it because activation was unavailable. LOL
This was a complete OS lockout. All done to satisfy the requirements of US carriers. (Starting with AT&T…. But they all expect much the same thing)
Fair and reasonable question. My bet is on Apple having created a kludge that can be installed on impacted devices to buy time until they have a permanent solution.
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This^^
I’ve worked in both countries and can vouch for this comment and observation. They have a great mistrust for their employees in the USA
Odd. They may have a roaming agreement but as far as I can remember cricket does have a lot of their own infrastructure.
It’s probably a mixture of both.
When I placed the order I placed the order as a Verizon model. It cost me $30 but when the phone came and I transferred from the old phone to the new, it just went. I didnt want to pay $30 extra, but I had this feeling I should.
Indeed. It’s absolutely and utterly ridiculous. I’ve been advocating remote work as a viable option to most corporations for well over a decade and a half. With very luke warm interest.
There are very few scenarios with the collaboration technologies we have at our disposal that working “in person” is a requirement.
Lots of middle management in the US just gets extremely perturbed at not having direct line of sight to employees and having the satisfaction of strolling the aisles of cubicles to “supervise” their work.
It’s an ego boost. And now that COVID occurred all that middle management became so lonely and ultimately also fear for their jobs. So they don’t like work from home.
Such a glorious waste of operational costs.
I’m curious. Did you have Verizon prior on your old device? Did you migrate your sim from the old phone to the new one or activate the new phone directly on Verizon without transferring the sim?
Thanks!
Any software/firmware can be buggy as sometimes it's difficult to test how everything will work together in every situation.
At least Apple commits to fixing their issues. (My old iPhone 6 Plus was still getting fixes 7 years after it released.)
Android users can't fathom that concept.
Ugh. Tedious as hell. I’m not looking forward to this process.
First time in years I’m subsidizing my phone purchase because I frankly can’t justify forking out another 1500 bucks for an iPhone 14 PM moving from an iPhone 13 PM.
Luckily Verizon automatically removes carrier locks after 60 days.
Should happen entirely automatically. (Makes me want to just wait 60 days to setup my device, so I can also load up my T-mobile line. I always run dual SIM.)
For sure. Apple really does an excellent job at maintaining support for their devices.
Even Google Pixel devices are only guaranteed software updates for 3 years. LOL
Samsung offers them for 4 years.
They used to just dump phones on the market and only maybe offer ONE update during the life of a phone. (This was especially true with smartphones running Windows mobile / CE and you can thank Microsoft for much of that.)
Would you provide some professional background information about yourself that brings you to this opinion?
That’s exactly my thought as well. If the person is not performing the person is not a good fit for the team. WFH is wildly beneficial to companies when used appropriately.
While I have not experienced other bugs you and others report with 16.x on my devices I have with HomeKit automations on my lights. And on apple support forums there are large numbers of complaints of similar problems and some pretty upset folks who relied on this automation for much larger systems than I use (I only have 4 lights for security when gone, one in use most of time when home) and this has broken my automations. Lots of suggestions for fixing — reinstalling the home app which for some works, repopulates all the automations automatically (not for others forcing a full setup of all devices originally in automations). Another suggestion was to turn off and then on the home hub setting for your Apple TV — main hub these days (or homepod) since 16.x ended iPads as hubs. I have tried that but have to see if that fixes things tonight.
I don’t come on here for a freaking ego boost. I research and study new mobile devices from multiple manufacturers. I don’t work for a carrier or for a manufacturer. I advise corporations on how to invest in mobile tech and other user interfacing technologies. So even if I’m not personally affected by a workflow challenge then yes I study it and find solutions to work around them or note the workflow challenge in recommendations made to clients.
Been working in the industry for 25 years and while I appreciate your enthusiastic support of any manufacturer. It’s painfully obvious you’re a fan and just blowing smoke to get some sort of rise out of people online.
Like I said, if you have something of value to contribute go ahead and comment. Don’t waste my time or anyone else’s with constant droning about how perfect your device is or how people shouldn’t discuss problems here because everyone has them. Your attitude is the sort of thing that at best kills IT departments at many companies.
Your job would have been outsourced ages ago if you took that attitude with your users.
Oh and PS: Hyperbole is an exaggeration. Please use a dictionary when referencing word meaning.
I'd like to see some metrics detailing whether the public betas accomplish anything other than 'l337-ness on the part of those who chase them.
I got this message the first time I tried to transfer my physical sim to esim from my Xs to 14P. I have Verizon so I knew that it was supported. I just went to the Verizon website, added the iPhone 14P IMEI to my account, then transferred my number to that IMEI. I wouldn’t even bother trying to set up esim through Apple/setup. Just contact your carrier. They’ll know how to get your esim up and running better than Apple.
Side note: Really hating the esim only move still, and now even more so. Really reminds me of the days of the iPhone 4, when us Verizon users had no sim and the phone itself didn’t even have a slot! Not a good throwback though. I was so happy when I got the 5 that there was a (later we found out) fully unlocked sim slot! Was almost a reward for us Verizon users who hadn’t gotten the iPhone until the 4, and then had crappier hardware with no slot. I guess I can hope the 15 brings it back… I won’t hope to hard though.
Side note: Really hating the esim only move still, and now even more so. Really reminds me of the days of the iPhone 4, when us Verizon users had no sim and the phone itself didn’t even have a slot! Not a good throwback though. I was so happy when I got the 5 that there was a (later we found out) fully unlocked sim slot! Was almost a reward for us Verizon users who hadn’t gotten the iPhone until the 4, and then had crappier hardware with no slot. I guess I can hope the 15 brings it back… I won’t hope to hard though.
It’s obvious he has limited development and testing experience. Manufacturers have been outsourcing QA through automation and specific testing centers which is all remote work anyway for decades.
Even when we had Java and Brew only handsets (before smartphones were mainstream) there were companies dedicating to selling rack mounted hardware with remote terminal support where you could script OS operations remotely and view the test output from a computer in any location.
It was a great cost savings exercise and some of the solutions were so complete you could even do cable firmware loads remotely.
Used to be I’d have to carry a bag of devices with me on business trips. That was tedious and ridiculous LOL
This is why Apple should release new devices with a stable iOS version instead of forcing us to be beta testers on new devices.
But it IS TRUE that nothing tests like shipping a product. Seriously. Programmers will likely be nodding their heads enthusiastically yes at that. You can only test what you think might go wrong. Put it in front of users, and just watch the errors pop up.
One testing issue I remember happened not that long ago, and it was a whopper...
The DOD was working with contractors to develop an automated system that could detect (see) enemies in the field to assist troops that were in an area where 'enemies' were believed to be active. They spent millions (of course) on the system and declared that it was nearly 100% accurate at finding enemy positions during testing. So, the next step was to deploy it during a 'war game' and see how it well it worked. They went into the tests with really high hopes. -- AND-- The nearly 100% accurate system was reduced to perform worse than just taking a wild guess. Shocked, they tried to find out why the heavily tested software system had failed. After spending more money trying to defend their system the flaw dawned on one person researching the epic failure. He noticed a pattern that other researchers hadn't, and put the system to the test just like those that 'proved' it was working. It passed his tests. The system had an epic failure. Every image they presented to the system that did not have an 'enemy' was lighter than those that had an 'enemy'. So the 'fuzzy logic' and 'self-learning' system they put their programmers to create *learned* that dark images had enemies, and light images did not. The software system did learn something, that testing bias sucked millions (billions?) of dollars to fund the creation of a system that could 'find' enemies only if they were hiding in a dark area. EPIC FAIL! HYSTERICAL FAIL! I laughed so hard at that...
Completely agree. WFH also allows a company to hire the best talent from where they are. Some people do not want to relocate.
I tend to think posters who are patently against WFH are probably likely to only have experience in a small company or shop.
I'm one of the biggest Apple fanboys but why is that belief acceptable for some?
No there shouldn't be bugs when you're a trillion dollar company and launching a new operating system for one of the world's leading smartphones.
The list for this latest release continues to grow. I'd love to be a fly on the wall inside Apple and hear how they react to news of more bugs.
I think Apple needs to do bi-annual OS releases - the operating systems are being rushed out the door and the consumer is left to be the guinea pigs.