Apple Acknowledges Siri Leadership Has Officially Moved From Eddy Cue to Craig Federighi

[Defthand]

AirPods?

Not quite. Cook signed off on the product but patents pertaining to wireless earbuds were filed as early as 2012. So development was already underway when Jobs was at the helm.

Apple Watch?

Ah! Yes, the watch probably is a Cook-era development, even though rumors were circulating in 2011 about an Apple wearable, when Google was working on their ill-fated glasses.

 

[PseudoRegister]

Serious question, no sarcasm intended - what's Cue's biggest accomplishments in last 18-24 months?

Proving that crash-prone, unusable bloatware isn't the exclusive domain of Microsoft? (I'm looking at you, iTunes.)

 

[albebaubles]

Not quite. Cook signed off on the product but patents pertaining to wireless earbuds were filed as early as 2012. So development was already underway when Jobs was at the helm.


We patent stuff LONG BEFORE we develop anything. that's an assumption on your part -- you seem to make a lot of them.

I think Steve passed before 2012.

 

[Defthand]

We patent stuff LONG BEFORE we develop anything. that's an assumption on your part -- you seem to make a lot of them.

"Development" may be an exaggeration. Nonetheless, someone was thinking about the potential before Cook's term. And as you state, the conceptualization can happen long before the feature or product is approved for development and market. Given Apple's conservative pace, it's highly likely that Jobs endorsed the goal when the earliest patents were applied for. Was likely one of the products in the "five year pipeline" that Cook inherited.

Yes, I make assumptions--assumptions that typically prove correct. Unless you can offer personal knowledge to dispute my assumptions, your counterpoints are no more informed.

 

[albebaubles]

"Development" may be an exaggeration. Nonetheless, someone was thinking about the potential before Cook's term. And as you state, the conceptualization can happen long before the feature or product is approved for development and market. Given Apple's conservative pace, it's highly likely that Jobs endorsed the goal when the earliest patents were applied for. Was likely one of the products in the "five year pipeline" that Cook inherited.

Yes, I make assumptions--assumptions that typically prove correct. Unless you can offer personal knowledge to dispute my assumptions, your counterpoints are no more informed.

So then....do you give Jobs credit for the trashcan too?
[doublepost=1504752551][/doublepost]Jobs was gone before 2012.

 

[urbanslaughter1997]

You should watch some videos of Siri in iOS 11 vs Google Assistant on YT or try it on the latest public beta... Siri outdoes Google in most respects and makes the latter sound dated and robotic. I'm sure they'll go back and forth, but it shows how much progress Apple's made.

As for Alexa actually doing things, most people use it to set alarms and timers which Siri does just fine. It's known as the world's most expensive alarm clock for a reason.

Echo is also convenient for playing music, but personally, I couldn't deal with the poor sound quality. Apple nailed it with the HomePod IMO... consumers will appreciate great sounding speakers long after they've stopped using the assistant feature.

That's why I hooked it up to some great sounding speakers I already had. I find it alarming that you say, "consumers will appreciate great sounding speakers long after they've stopped using the assistant feature." I think the assistant feature, something that can be updated with firmware, should certainly outlast the speakers themselves.

 

[Karma*Police]

That's why I hooked it up to some great sounding speakers I already had. I find it alarming that you say, "consumers will appreciate great sounding speakers long after they've stopped using the assistant feature." I think the assistant feature, something that can be updated with firmware, should certainly outlast the speakers themselves.

A lot of people have already given up on Echo... There's a reason why Echo is called the world's most expensive alarm clock. Even commentators on Twit that pushed Echo so hard now admit they rarely use it. If it had a great speaker, those people would still be using it just for that, is what I meant. Heck, I'd still own one if it did.

That's why Apple's move to position HomePod as a great speaker first and an assistant second seems like a very smart move.

 

[0958400]

Bring back Forstall, they need more people for all those projects. He may have been a pain, but he delivered more often than not.

 

[pika2000]

Bring back Forstall, they need more people for all those projects. He may have been a pain, but he delivered more often than not.

This again?
Forstall couldn't work with everybody, so either he left or everybody else left, thus he left. Forstall will always "lose" as Ive will always supersedes him (wonder why Rubinstein and Fadell left?). Ive already got Jobs' blessing of power. For Forstall to come back, Ive would have to leave, and that will never happen anytime soon.

 

[George Dawes]

I use Siri to tell me the time , then again my Quadra 840av from 1994 could do the same thing too... and give me the date as well

Progress eh ?

 

[0958400]

This again?
Forstall couldn't work with everybody, so either he left or everybody else left, thus he left. Forstall will always "lose" as Ive will always supersedes him (wonder why Rubinstein and Fadell left?). Ive already got Jobs' blessing of power. For Forstall to come back, Ive would have to leave, and that will never happen anytime soon.

Why not "this again"?

I agree, Forstall would lose against Ive.

But is Ive still there? Have you seen anything great from him in the past years since Jobs left?
Jobs was a pain too, and he managed a great company. Additionally, Forstall had Job's blessing, too.

Jobs kept the competition going which was good for Apple's products and its customers (granted probably not for his employees), but if everybody agrees mediocrity takes hold and that is what keeps Apple back these days.

 

[pika2000]

Why not "this again"?

I agree, Forstall would lose against Ive.

But is Ive still there? Have you seen anything great from him in the past years since Jobs left?
Jobs was a pain too, and he managed a great company. However, Forstall had Job's blessing, too.

Jobs kept competition going which was good for Apple's products and its customers (granted probably not for his employees), but if everybody agrees mediocrity takes hold and that is what keeps Apple back these days.

LOL. Are you joking?
Jobs may like Forstall, but Ive is at Apple's pedestal, whether you like it or not. Jobs pretty much gave Ive's design team complete freedom (and power), and often times, Jobs would side with Ive's team. A great example was the antennagate of the iPhone 4. Apple, which means Jobs, knew about the flaw of the design, but sided with Ive anyway to go with it. The rest is history.

 

[George Dawes]

Cook stabbed Scott in the back , that's for sure.

Scott was Steve's chosen one

Time will tell..