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In the beta,itunes match could only be purchase by credit card.i wondering if Apple will allow buy the pass throught gift cards.Apple should make an special itunes match gift card .it will be good for users outside US like me :)
 
My big question with iTunes match is:

Will it match a physical CD? or do I have to rip it first? It seems like with the CD it should be able to get a much better match than with the ripped/named tunes... Do you see anything in the options for that?

And I don't need it one way or the other. I want it both ways :)

Gary
Unfortunately, you can't have it both ways. You HAVE to rip it first.

About the matching: iTunes has the same info that you do when you rip the disc. iTunes uses Gracenote to get the info that you eventually see when your CD rips. The SAME info. Read up on it in the link provided. Basically, it provides software and metadata to businesses that enable their customers to manage and search digital media. You use it because iTunes uses it. If you rip your music in another application, then you get whatever info that application connects to. Most likely Gracenote, however. It is the standard.

One big benefit that no one is talking about is the fact that music replaced will also get the right ARTWORK. I have thousands of tracks that don't have artwork. Looking forward to that being a thing of the past.
 
Can I delete music on my hard drive with MM?

With music match, I was hoping to be able to delete song files from my HD, to create more space.

I figured that once I sync with Match, I can stream music from there on and not need the hard copy.

True or false?
 
I apologize if this has already been answered, but I have yet to see a definitive answer:

What if I only pay once? Will all of the matched songs still be available once the year is over? Once a song is matched is it always matched? To download to a new computer, for example?

As long as you continue to pay the $25 per year, unless you break the size limit and have to pay more in order to store more.
 
Now if only iTunes could get one thing right: understanding that a computer does not have all USB harddrives plugged in all the dang time (hello, laptop, portability, Apple have you heard of it?) and files will not eternally be in the same spot...

Well, that's a big reason Apple is doing iTunes match, it eliminates that need and lets you get those songs on any portable device that has an internet connection.

Hrm? So what, I have to run iTunes ONCE - match everything, and done. I download what I want a better copy of, but I shouldn't even have to run iTunes again

You asked about file format support and whether you may have to convert. Yes, you only have to run iTunes once, but that means that any files you want to upgrade have to be in formats iTunes supports. Which means that yes, you may have to convert those files first to get matched versions.


Your iTunes data is completely separate from the file itself, so song ratings and play counts are synced separately and applied. It's actually very well done.

That's great news. Updated metadata as well?
 
Forgive me for a few questions here...

I have a 64gb iPod touch that I store my music on, and I want to keep it the way it is. There are many albums on there that are not on my current computer, rather from an old computer that completely died a few months ago. I recently picked up a 32gb iPhone 4S this past weekend that I would like to use iTunes Match for.

If I were to get the iTunes Match service, can I choose to only use it for my iPhone, and not the iPod Touch, or does if have to work across all of the devices that I am currently using with my iTunes account. I want to use the space on the phone for apps and games, and use Match for the occasional albums or so, and still be able to manually sync the iPod to my iMac.

Also, Match will only load music from iTunes that is currently on your computer? Or, if I were to use my iPod for match, would it by any chance load those songs and albums on the device to the iTunes Match Cloud that are not currently on my iTunes on the iMac. (I hope this makes some sort of sense here)....

Again, I'm sorry if these questions have already been covered....Thanks for any info..
 
One big benefit that no one is talking about is the fact that music replaced will also get the right ARTWORK. I have thousands of tracks that don't have artwork. Looking forward to that being a thing of the past.

iTunes has had that ability for years, actually =). Right click on a song and click "Get Album Artwork." Unfortunately, the artwork is only cached with iTunes and not written back to the file, so any other player or device that's not Apple's won't see it. Of course, with iTunes Match, you can simply download a new copy of the song with the artwork already in it.

Will this work on 10.5.8? Because my main library is on a computer Running that.

I doubt it will work on anything less than Lion. You'll have to upgrade to 10.7.2. If you're stuck on Leopard because you're on a PowerPC Mac, I'm afraid you're completely SOL - iTunes 10.5 won't even run on PPC anymore. Time for either a new Mac or a Windows PC. Hey, at least Windows 7 is pretty decent =).
 
About the matching: iTunes has the same info that you do when you rip the disc. iTunes uses Gracenote to get the info that you eventually see when your CD rips. The SAME info. Read up on it in the link provided. Basically, it provides software and metadata to businesses that enable their customers to manage and search digital media. You use it because iTunes uses it. If you rip your music in another application, then you get whatever info that application connects to. Most likely Gracenote, however. It is the standard.
The "standard" is often wrong - I've had it attempt to name albums with completely wrong artists, album titles, and songs many, many times. Not only that, but it doesn't list artists propery - last name first - nor in chronological order, so many of us who REALLY care about properly cataloging our music do so manually, inputting the artist's names correctly and appending the year to the album title (such as (2011) Album Title) so that albums will display from earliest to latest. So, yeah, if it's going purely by Gracenote, it's going to be a mess.
 
Forgive me for a few questions here...

I have a 64gb iPod touch that I store my music on, and I want to keep it the way it is. There are many albums on there that are not on my current computer, rather from an old computer that completely died a few months ago. I recently picked up a 32gb iPhone 4S this past weekend that I would like to use iTunes Match for.

If I were to get the iTunes Match service, can I choose to only use it for my iPhone, and not the iPod Touch, or does if have to work across all of the devices that I am currently using with my iTunes account. I want to use the space on the phone for apps and games, and use Match for the occasional albums or so, and still be able to manually sync the iPod to my iMac.

Also, Match will only load music from iTunes that is currently on your computer? Or, if I were to use my iPod for match, would it by any chance load those songs and albums on the device to the iTunes Match Cloud that are not currently on my iTunes on the iMac. (I hope this makes some sort of sense here)....

Again, I'm sorry if these questions have already been covered....Thanks for any info..

iTunes is still considered the central hub of your library, so it will only match songs in the iTunes library, not what's already on your iPod. There are apps that can transfer the music from the iPod over to a new machine, however, so keep that in mind.

iTunes Match is enabled on a per-device basis, so you can choose to have it only on your iPhone and not your iPod if you'd like. These devices count against your 10-device limit for Automatic Downloads per account, meaning you can only have a maximum of 10 devices (up to 5 PCs or Macs, up to 10 iOS devices) using iTunes Match at any one time. If you use iTunes Match on one device on one account and you want to transfer it to a different account, that device will be locked to the new account for 90 days.

You can still sync an unlimited number of devices to your PC as you do today, however.

Hope that helps!
 
I believe, and someone correct me if I am wrong...but if you stop paying after the year you will not have access to your matched music. It's a yearly service. That doesn't mean though that you can't match your music and redownload the higher bit rate and never use it again after that.

You just won't be able to redownload it after your years up.

That is the generally assumed way it will go. We shall see.
 
If you are an audiophile who's spent tons of hours ripping, sorting, correcting and loving your huge collection of music. DON'T BE AN EARLY ADOPTER.

Keep enjoying your music as you are now and wait to see how this service performs. There are bound to be some art work issues, meta data issues etc and the last thing you want is to see your totally AWESOME collection messed up while going through the match and iCloud storage process.
 
Read through the whole thread so far and see a number of questions that remain unanswered. Most likely due to the fact that the non-beta isn't live yet, but maybe they're just being overlooked. Just in case, I wanted to throw my hat in the ring and ask a couple as well.

1. One of the big concerns is for libraries with over 25,000 songs that were not purchased in iTunes. If I'm understanding correctly, you don't get a choice of what you want iTunes Match to look for, it just takes it upon itself to scan and start uploading your whole library (a very bad design feature IMO), so what happens when it scans file 25,000 and there are still more to go? Do you just not get anything from the rest of your library scanned and potentially matched?

I don't know about 2 or 3, and have heard little regarding 1, but what I did hear was that the Match service would not even begin on libraries over 25k songs. I really hope the final release allows people to exclude certain files. I have a bunch of complete collections of classical composers like Bach that iTunes doesn't have and that makes my library far higher than 25k. I'd desire to have my classical music library excluded and just match the rest. I hope I don't have to somehow create a second library just for the classical music so that iTunes can match the rest.
 
Will this work on 10.5.8? Because my main library is on a computer Running that.

I doubt it will work on anything less than Lion. You'll have to upgrade to 10.7.2. If you're stuck on Leopard because you're on a PowerPC Mac, I'm afraid you're completely SOL - iTunes 10.5 won't even run on PPC anymore. Time for either a new Mac or a Windows PC. Hey, at least Windows 7 is pretty decent =).

Not true. I have iTunes 10.5.1 beta installed on a PowerMac G4 running 10.5.8 and iTunes Match works fine. Although I don't have any music on the G4, I can still login, see my music in the cloud, stream and download my songs.

I think when Apple first stated that Lion was required, it was ONLY for iCloud - meaning sync for Address Book, iCal, etc. between the cloud. iTunes Match seems to be a different beast in itself.

Now this was tested in the beta, and I don't know what the specs for the final release are going to be. I only assumed I could install the 10.5.1 beta because whenever I install Leopard I always get an option to install the latest iTunes.

This is also a concern for me, as my PowerMac G5 has a HDD and my Lion-installed MacBook Pro has an SSD and I want to free up some space on my laptop where all of my music is currently stored. Hoping to migrate that to the G5 and be able to stream to my MBP/iPhone when Match goes live.
 
iTunes Match

This is lengthy but I think it will help answer many of your questions:

iTunes Match is not connected to iCloud at all from my understanding. It is an entirely separate system that is connected to your Apple ID. That Apple ID could be the same as your iCloud Apple ID, though.

Once I flipped iTunes Match on for my iPhone 4s it erased the music I had on my iPhone and began downloading my iTunes Match information. Early in the sync with iTunes Match it appeared that my playlists that I synced (using iTunes) had been wiped as well. But 30 seconds later ALL of my playlists were now on my iPhone (proof that metadata is synced).

Just because all of my playlists appeared on my iPhone doesn't mean all of the songs synced (80+ GB does not fit onto a 16GB iPhone). iTunes Match new which songs were already on my iPhone and kept them there but also added placeholders for other songs from my iTunes. These songs had a little iCloud logo to the right of the song if you want to download it to your iDevice.

You cannot play these songs from iTunes Match without downloading them to your iDevices. It might appear that they are streaming but the song will only begin to play once it is partially downloaded (think of the way a Youtube video loads and then plays)

I can't speak to the 25K+ iTunes Library because I only have 10+ songs. I did not have a choice of which songs I was uploading/matching to the cloud.

In my opinion, if you have less than 25+ songs, dont worry about which songs are being matched and which are being uploaded to the servers! If all of your music is accessible from iTunes Match it shouldn't really matter. The only problem with songs that are not match is they wont be upgraded.

On the topic of upgrading: Songs that are matched are only upgraded when you download the file from iTunes. For example, when I deleted a song from my iTunes the little Cloud logo appeared. I then clicked it to begin the re-download. Once the file was completed it had artwork that my file was missing and the file type had switch from an "MPEG audio file" to a "Matched ACC Audio File".

Now, with the above in mind you could hypothetically rip a CD into your iTunes Library (the songs must be in your library before they can be Matched) at very low bitrate to save space on your computer. Then, you could delete these songs from your computer once they are matched and have the option to download them on your Mac, iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch. iTunes Match will sync with any device that you choose. All you have to do is sign into your Apple ID on that device. If you would rather manually sync your device then don't setup iTunes Match on that device.

I hope this answers many of yall's questions!
 

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Lyrics?

Hi all

Just wondering about lyrics that you add to each song and if/how iTunes match deals with it? Its not quite clear to me.

Syncing via USB pre-iCloud, lyrics were aways copied from my iMac to my iPhone. Post-iCloud, lyrics don't copy but rather...iCloud just redownloads the same song on both devices sans lyrics.

Hoping this is dealt with, or else...I guess I'll just go back to the old system of syncing via cable.
 
You cannot play these songs from iTunes Match without downloading them to your iDevices. It might appear that they are streaming but the song will only begin to play once it is partially downloaded (think of the way a Youtube video loads and then plays)

If you choose to play the playlist, will it download the songs you need to complete the playlist as you come to them, or will it simply skip over the un-downloaded tracks?
 
I havent been able to get it to work. I have had dev access to it for quite a while. When it is doing the scanning the library thing it just sort of dies....

I also often wondered about what it will do to the tracks that are ripped at a higher quality AAC/mp3 or in Apple Lossless. I have good headphones and a amp for my ipod, i would be pretty miffed if all of the tracks i have in lossless were suddenly 256bit AAC.


Also, im not looking forward to blowing my Comcast bandwidth cap 171 gigs of music to send to apple is a lot of stuff.
 
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Might be a stupid question, but:

"How will it work if my iCloud ID is not the same as the iTMS ID I use for purchases?"
 
Playlists on iDevices after iTunes Match

If you are playing music from a playlist that has songs not stored locally, the iPod skips these songs. But if you would like, you can download all the songs in that playlist by clicking the button at the bottom of that playlist.

P.S. This also works for Artists and Albums as well
 

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Might be a stupid question, but:

"How will it work if my iCloud ID is not the same as the iTMS ID I use for purchases?"

You can set up a different apple id for iCloud and iTunes. Just buy iTunes Match with your iTunes apple ID.
 
Well it showed up for me and I turned it on.

I had already synced last week and while it claimed my library on the iPad would be replaced, it didn't do it - maybe it will after I sync.

Anyhow, I did remove some songs this morning and those songs that were removed were available from the cloud. I could download the few I tried.

At home I tried it also - all songs in the cloud would appear for download if I deleted the local copy, but some fail to download with an Error 11111.

The ones that do are 256kbs AAC files. They are DRM-free, at least loading the file in VLC works. I did notice that the file is tagged as "AAC-match" so it is easy for the OS to determine the file type and I have no idea what it will do to the downloaded tunes when the subscription expires.

What it did not do is mess with the artwork or my tags.
 

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