Apple Adding Some 2013 and 2014 MacBook Air and MacBook Pro Models to Vintage Products List at End of April

[iamgalt]

My 2012 Mac Mini is on the vintage list. Not long before it hits the obsolete list. It's still going strong for me since I don't use it heavily. And given the $600 I paid for it, I'd say I got my money's worth; way more than any PC I ever had. Here's hoping I can get another year or two out of it.

 

[recoil80]

My 2012 Mac Mini is on the vintage list. Not long before it hits the obsolete list. It's still going strong for me since I don't use it heavily. And given the $600 I paid for it, I'd say I got my money's worth; way more than any PC I ever had. Here's hoping I can get another year or two out of it.

Still using one of them in our server farm for Apple related development, it's been shut down only once in 5 years as we were relocating to another building. I think we'll be able to run it for another couple of years then we'll replace it with the 2018 model to continue receiving updates.

 

[vasim]

My 2012 Mac Mini is on the vintage list. Not long before it hits the obsolete list. It's still going strong for me since I don't use it heavily. And given the $600 I paid for it, I'd say I got my money's worth; way more than any PC I ever had. Here's hoping I can get another year or two out of it.

You mean 2011? Because 2012 is not vintage yet

 

[iamgalt]

You mean 2011? Because 2012 is not vintage yet

 

[mixel]

I tend to go to hacky methods ( http://dosdude1.com/catalina/ ) to install unsupported MacOS where possible, then once that's not viable anymore just switch them to Windows 10, which runs perfectly on old machines at least.

The final straw for my daughter's ancient MBP was The Sims4 only getting updates on Macs that have Metal support, so I had to switch over to Windows for that, lol. A lot of people wouldn't have to though. I'm running an early 2013 15" MBP myself now and hope to have it running the latest MacOS for some time, still - whether Apple support it or otherwise.

 

[vasim]

Oh, i read the Mac Tracker app which I think is one year back...

 

[Carlos Pacheco]

Damn, still running my 2014 MBP as a daily driver and hope to keep it going at least another year. I even have a 2015 model in storage waiting in the wings.

 

[AustinIllini]

I guess no more software updates for these models then.

I would assume it just means no cardinal macOS releases.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

I would assume it just means no cardinal macOS releases.

Neither. This has no relevance to software support whatsoever.
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Oh, i read the Mac Tracker app which I think is one year back...

Yep, Mactracker hasn't been updated in a while.
But from what I heard the developer has not abandoned, it so it probably will be updated at some point.

 

[jljue]

My son is having to use my 2013 11" MBA while schools are closed since the lower elementary kids are not eligible to checkout school-owned Chromebooks during the COVID-19 closure period. Just because it is moving to vintage status, it will still be used until it is no longer capable of getting the job done.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

My son is having to use my 2013 11" MBA while schools are closed since the lower elementary kids are not eligible to checkout school-owned Chromebooks during the COVID-19 closure period. Just because it is moving to vintage status, it will still be used until it is no longer capable of getting the job done.

That should go without saying.
As long as the device doesn't break, vintage/obsolete status doesn't affect the user whatsoever.

 

[Chris Loughrey]

Great to know my Macbook Pro Mid 2012 is still avoiding the food chain drop as they sold that in their store up to about 2017 as a cheaper non-Retina alternative. My Late 2013 Macbook Air is getting the knock though sadly.

 

[alien3dx]

Great to know my Macbook Pro Mid 2012 is still avoiding the food chain drop as they sold that in their store up to about 2017 as a cheaper non-Retina alternative. My Late 2013 Macbook Air is getting the knock though sadly.

i have 2011 macbook pro on going..

 

[Chris Loughrey]

My son is having to use my 2013 11" MBA while schools are closed since the lower elementary kids are not eligible to checkout school-owned Chromebooks during the COVID-19 closure period. Just because it is moving to vintage status, it will still be used until it is no longer capable of getting the job done.

You can still use it for years, it's simply that they'll stop supporting the hardware repairs and offering new major updates. Doesn't affect their use

 

[jljue]

You can still use it for years, it's simply that they'll stop supporting the hardware repairs and offering new major updates. Doesn't affect their use

I’m aware; people are just freaking out because their investment has met the end of the support/beginning of obsolescence cycle. People forget that technology evolves so rapidly that their electronic devices will stop getting updates and stop having service parts available rather than when.

 

[Crzyrio]

I should expect my MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013) to go on the Obsolete or Vintage list by next year?
Considering getting a battery replacement done before it moves to either of those list.

 

[RedRaven571]

I'm holding onto my 15" 2012 MBP until it totally craps out on me; I bought it as a refurb for $1100 and was the last model (I believe) with user replaceable RAM, SSD/HDD, battery....

 

[MrUNIMOG]

You can still use it for years, it's simply that they'll stop supporting the hardware repairs and offering new major updates. Doesn't affect their use

Again, this has nothing to do with software support, be it minor or major updates.

Great to know my Macbook Pro Mid 2012 is still avoiding the food chain drop as they sold that in their store up to about 2017 as a cheaper non-Retina alternative. My Late 2013 Macbook Air is getting the knock though sadly.

Rest assured that your Late 2013 Air will be supported by the latest macOS release longer than your Mid 2012 Pro (or at least as long), even though becoming Vintage/Obsolete years earlier.

 

[pjspjs]

I have a 2011 MacAir and 2011 iMac running High Sierra. As I understand it, High Sierra (and Safari) continues to get security updates until Apple introduces its next operating system. At that time, I think I will no longer get security updates for Safari. I've read using Firefox (and maybe Chrome) instead of Safari is safer as they will continue to get security updates for an additional year or two after Apple no longer supports High Sierra, however the computer is still vulnerable since High Sierra will no longer get security uodates.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

I have a 2011 MacAir and 2011 iMac running High Sierra. As I understand it, High Sierra (and Safari) continues to get security updates until Apple introduces its next operating system. At that time, I think I will no longer get security updates for Safari. I've read using Firefox (and maybe Chrome) instead of Safari is safer as they will continue to get security updates for an additional year or two after Apple no longer supports High Sierra, however the computer is still vulnerable since High Sierra will no longer get security uodates.

By the time High Sierra doesn't get security patches anymore, install base probably will be so minor that it's not even worth it as a target for potential attackers. Using Firefox is a good idea, if you get the ESR version (extended support release) that will be some more years of browser security.

 

[Cyprusian]

Apple has just told me to toss my 2014 MBP in the bin.

Apple may have consigned my mid 2014 MBP to vintage status, but it's not going nowhere near the bin.....

 

[MrUNIMOG]

Apple has just told me to toss my 2014 MBP in the bin.

WTF? Why would you say that? As long as your device doesn't break, this doesn't affect you in any way
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What about the 15'' Late 2013 MacBook Pro? I hope it gets 10.16.

The first Haswell generation, I'm almost sure about that.

I also have a feeling even 2012 and Early 2013 models might still get 10.16 but that's really just a feeling.

 

[vasim]

By the time High Sierra doesn't get security patches anymore, install base probably will be so minor that it's not even worth it as a target for potential attackers. Using Firefox is a good idea, if you get the ESR version (extended support release) that will be some more years of browser security.

For how long we can run this OS securely? (as most securely can be)

 

[MrUNIMOG]

For how long we can run this OS securely? (as most securely can be)

Usually Apple provides security patches for the previous two major releases of macOS, at the time being Mojave and High Sierra. That means probably in Fall 2020 (with the release of 10.16) High Sierra will stop receiving security patches.

However I wouldn't stop using it when that happens. Just switch to Firefox as your main browser.

 

[inscrewtable]

My early 2013 15" rMPB looks and runs as well as it did when I got it. Only difference is that it now takes 45 seconds to boot instead of 20. Frankly I'm amazed that a 7 year old device is still this good.