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My early 2013 15" rMPB looks and runs as well as it did when I got it. Only difference is that it now takes 45 seconds to boot instead of 20. Frankly I'm amazed that a 7 year old device is still this good.
45 seconds to boot seems odd to me, have you ever done a clean macOS reinstall instead of an upgrade?
 
45 seconds to boot seems odd to me, have you ever done a clean macOS reinstall instead of an upgrade?

Catalina was the first time I did not do a clean install. Everything seems to be good otherwise, I just assumed it was maybe having trouble handling Catalina. So you think I should do a clean install? I have been thinking about it but I didn't want to do all that for no reason. But maybe I will give it a go if you think it could make a difference.
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Catalina was the first time I did not do a clean install. Everything seems to be good otherwise, I just assumed it was maybe having trouble handling Catalina. So you think I should do a clean install? I have been thinking about it but I didn't want to do all that for no reason. But maybe I will give it a go if you think it could make a difference.
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That's what I would try!
Have not yet installed Catalina on my 2012 iMac (Fusion Drive) but once I do, I'll do a clean install.
 
For those whose MBA and MBP just got onto the vintage and think that they are now useless, feel free to send it to someone in need, such as a school kid who needs a computer for school work during online classes due to COVID-19. As I mentioned before, my lower elementary child isn’t eligible for the school-issued Chromebooks while upper elementary are, but while my wife and I are both at home working for the same reason, he still needs a computer to do his school work, which is why he is using my vintage 2013 MBA. There are plenty of other kids who aren’t so lucky to have parents who have spare computers or computer sitting idle for the day while working on a work-issued computer at home during these times.
 
The 11" (Mid 2013) was by far the best Apple laptop I ever owned. I'm sure mine (currently in storage) is still functional, but unfortunately, my usage patterns changed and I moved back to the Windows camp.
 
The 11" (Mid 2013) was by far the best Apple laptop I ever owned. I'm sure mine (currently in storage) is still functional, but unfortunately, my usage patterns changed and I moved back to the Windows camp.

You should make sure every now and then that the battery is still somewhat charged. Batteries slowly lose their charge over time even when not in use, and if the voltage drops too low, they might suffer permanent damage.
 
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I use my late 2013 rMBP daily. Won't be too happy if this is classed as vintage when it still performs so well.

I certainly won't be buying a new Mac anytime soon. I've had to take a forced paycut too so any luxuries are going to go out the window for now. Some of us live in the real world.

Nothing stopping you from using it until you may need a spare part.
 
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By the time High Sierra doesn't get security patches anymore, install base probably will be so minor that it's not even worth it as a target for potential attackers. Using Firefox is a good idea, if you get the ESR version (extended support release) that will be some more years of browser security.
Thank you very much. Didn't realize Firefox had an ESR version. On a somewhat similar subject, if using an older iPad Air that I think only allows iOS 12 operating system, are there any security risks because it doesn't use the current iOS operating system and would Safari on that iPad Air also not be getting security updates? Is it possible to use Firefox or a different browser on the iPad that would that be a safer choice?
 
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Thank you very much. Didn't realize Firefox had an ESR version. On a somewhat similar subject, if using an older iPad Air that I think only allows iOS 12 operating system, are there any security risks because it doesn't use the current iOS operating system and would Safari on that iPad Air also not be getting security updates? Is it possible to use Firefox or a different browser on the iPad that would that be a safer choice?

With the iPad Air you're in luck since Apple (so far) continues to provide security updates for iOS 12 (like just last week with the release of iOS 12.4.5), so it's perfectly safe to use for now.

As for the browser choice, on iOS I don't think it can make that big a difference since under the hood all browsers have to use the WebKit engine that comes with the OS.
 
Well there is if Apple forces another upgrade to something like Reminders/Notes that requires the latest macOS version along with the latest iOS release to be able to function & sync.

Who said your device isn't getting another 2 or 3 years of macOS releases? You can only speculate at this point.
 
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Well there is if Apple forces another upgrade to something like Reminders/Notes that requires the latest macOS version along with the latest iOS release to be able to function & sync.

Well there COULD be but that’s not a necessary thing to happen. And even then you could likely use an alternative rather than purchasing a new computer right away.
 
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